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Pecman
Question for those Stones fans outside the United States.
I can't understand the Stones relationship distance with the Eagles, Tom Petty,
Bob Segar, John Mellencamp, Bruce Springsteen (but not of late), Jackson Brown etc....Hugely Iconic American artists.
The Stones have always been obsessed with American Rock Music...and
Mick and Keith and Ronnie reach out to become friends with everybody...
but strangely...they have not become close friends or even tried to be with this crop of American Roots rockers.
Is it competition or jealousy?
Never understood it.
They made avenues to become friends with the Mama's and Papa's of all people.
Even derailed the Stones 1974 work to work on John Papa's solo album Pay Pack and Follow. for Peanuts. Never understood that.
And I believe Mick has a great insecurity with Rod Stewart.
And I love that Keith played with the Faces...that was so cool.
Shed some light international Stones fans (though I'm probably considered international on this sight) as a New Yoorkah.
Pecman
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swimtothemoon
I guess you can't be pals with everybody but I have never heard them say anything
Bad about those performers. Actually maybe Bruce Springsteen's music - at least back in 1978. I seem to recall Mick saying in Rolling Stone he was not to fond
of Bruce's music and popularity. Mick must have gotten over it though - that was
38 years ago. Wow time flies.
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DandelionPowderman
(while Patti was singing on DW, btw)
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Pecman
Question for those Stones fans outside the United States.
I can't understand the Stones relationship distance with the Eagles, Tom Petty,
Bob Segar, John Mellencamp, Bruce Springsteen (but not of late), Jackson Brown etc....Hugely Iconic American artists.
The Stones have always been obsessed with American Rock Music...and
Mick and Keith and Ronnie reach out to become friends with everybody...
but strangely...they have not become close friends or even tried to be with this crop of American Roots rockers.
Is it competition or jealousy?
Never understood it.
They made avenues to become friends with the Mama's and Papa's of all people.
Even derailed the Stones 1974 work to work on John Papa's solo album Pay Pack and Follow. for Peanuts. Never understood that.
And I believe Mick has a great insecurity with Rod Stewart.
And I love that Keith played with the Faces...that was so cool.
Shed some light international Stones fans (though I'm probably considered international on this sight) as a New Yoorkah.
Pecman
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with sssoul
(while Patti was singing on DW, btw)
... say what??
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Palace Revolution 2000
This is a really good question. IMO it is one that can not be answered by us. There's too many nuances to it.
Springsteen and Seger are most likely musical reasons. Petty and Mellencamp on the other hand are very good. Maybe they're too close to the Stones.
Patti S. is credited on DW. What is surprising (at least to me) is that she is actually very good.
Holy shit, I never knew that.Quote
DandelionPowderman
(while Patti was singing on DW, btw)
... say what??
She is credited. She sang on Talk Is Cheap as well, if memory serves.
Not a nice way to thank her boyfriend, was it
Backing vocals on DW:
Jimmy Cliff, Don Covay, Beverly D'Angelo, Kirsty MacColl, Dolette McDonald, Janice Pendarvis, Patti Scialfa and Tom Waits
Keith slags almost everyone, so that's no surprise.Quote
DandelionPowderman
I guess you can't be pals with everybody but I have never heard them say anything
Bad about those performers. Actually maybe Bruce Springsteen's music - at least back in 1978. I seem to recall Mick saying in Rolling Stone he was not to fond
of Bruce's music and popularity. Mick must have gotten over it though - that was
38 years ago. Wow time flies.
Keith did slag Bruce a bit round 1985/86 (while Patti was singing on DW, btw), saying «he's a nice guy, but he's not just getting it (the roll)», or something similar
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keefriff99
I guess you can't be pals with everybody but I have never heard them say anything
Bad about those performers. Actually maybe Bruce Springsteen's music - at least back in 1978. I seem to recall Mick saying in Rolling Stone he was not to fond
of Bruce's music and popularity. Mick must have gotten over it though - that was
38 years ago. Wow time flies.
Keith did slag Bruce a bit round 1985/86 (while Patti was singing on DW, btw), saying «he's a nice guy, but he's not just getting it (the roll)», or something similar
Keith slags almost everyone, so that's no surprise.
To me, having him come onstage to singing Tumbling Dice a few years ago is an acknowledgement that they see him as a contemporary and friend. I know the Stones have had plenty of questionable guest stars the last few years, but Springsteen is different from those flavor of the moment acts.
She's a very good singer, though on Springsteen's Live in NYC album, she does a little solo spot during band intros on 10th Avenue Freezeout which is absolutely atrocious. She sings a piece of one of her solo songs and it's this weird warbly, yodeling mess. It's absolutely puzzling why it was left on the album...well not really, considering they're married, but still...Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
This is a really good question. IMO it is one that can not be answered by us. There's too many nuances to it.
Springsteen and Seger are most likely musical reasons. Petty and Mellencamp on the other hand are very good. Maybe they're too close to the Stones.
Patti S. is credited on DW. What is surprising (at least to me) is that she is actually very good.
LOL, well that's my point. The Stones (or Mick, I should probably say) have de-valued having guests onstage the last few years.Quote
DandelionPowderman
I guess you can't be pals with everybody but I have never heard them say anything
Bad about those performers. Actually maybe Bruce Springsteen's music - at least back in 1978. I seem to recall Mick saying in Rolling Stone he was not to fond
of Bruce's music and popularity. Mick must have gotten over it though - that was
38 years ago. Wow time flies.
Keith did slag Bruce a bit round 1985/86 (while Patti was singing on DW, btw), saying «he's a nice guy, but he's not just getting it (the roll)», or something similar
Keith slags almost everyone, so that's no surprise.
To me, having him come onstage to singing Tumbling Dice a few years ago is an acknowledgement that they see him as a contemporary and friend. I know the Stones have had plenty of questionable guest stars the last few years, but Springsteen is different from those flavor of the moment acts.
I agree, but then again - can we say the same about Taylor Swift?
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keefriff99
I guess you can't be pals with everybody but I have never heard them say anything
Bad about those performers. Actually maybe Bruce Springsteen's music - at least back in 1978. I seem to recall Mick saying in Rolling Stone he was not to fond
of Bruce's music and popularity. Mick must have gotten over it though - that was
38 years ago. Wow time flies.
Keith did slag Bruce a bit round 1985/86 (while Patti was singing on DW, btw), saying «he's a nice guy, but he's not just getting it (the roll)», or something similar
Keith slags almost everyone, so that's no surprise.
To me, having him come onstage to singing Tumbling Dice a few years ago is an acknowledgement that they see him as a contemporary and friend. I know the Stones have had plenty of questionable guest stars the last few years, but Springsteen is different from those flavor of the moment acts.
I agree, but then again - can we say the same about Taylor Swift?
LOL, well that's my point. The Stones (or Mick, I should probably say) have de-valued having guests onstage the last few years.
But Bruce is so obviously in a different class from the Katy Perrys, Blake Sheltons and Taylor Swifts of the world that they clearly feel some affection and kinship towards him at this point in their careers.
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Pecman
Question for those Stones fans outside the United States.
I can't understand the Stones relationship distance with the Eagles, Tom Petty,
Bob Segar, John Mellencamp, Bruce Springsteen (but not of late), Jackson Brown etc....Hugely Iconic American artists.
The Stones have always been obsessed with American Rock Music...and
Mick and Keith and Ronnie reach out to become friends with everybody...
but strangely...they have not become close friends or even tried to be with this crop of American Roots rockers.
Is it competition or jealousy?
Never understood it.
They made avenues to become friends with the Mama's and Papa's of all people.
Even derailed the Stones 1974 work to work on John Papa's solo album Pay Pack and Follow. for Peanuts. Never understood that.
And I believe Mick has a great insecurity with Rod Stewart.
And I love that Keith played with the Faces...that was so cool.
Shed some light international Stones fans (though I'm probably considered international on this sight) as a New Yoorkah.
Pecman
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Pecman
Is it competition or jealousy?
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AlmostHearYouSigh
Keith mentioned Bruce in his 1988 cover story in Rolling Stone by saying he was contrived - working class hero stuff. I think that was 100% correct and oddly enough around this time Bruce attempted to change, he disbanded the E - Street Band and attempted to change his approach......Same article he called George Michael a whimp and told him to shave and go home...
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keefriff99
This is a really good question. IMO it is one that can not be answered by us. There's too many nuances to it.
Springsteen and Seger are most likely musical reasons. Petty and Mellencamp on the other hand are very good. Maybe they're too close to the Stones.
Patti S. is credited on DW. What is surprising (at least to me) is that she is actually very good.
She's a very good singer, though on Springsteen's Live in NYC album, she does a little solo spot during band intros on 10th Avenue Freezeout which is absolutely atrocious. She sings a piece of one of her solo songs and it's this weird warbly, yodeling mess. It's absolutely puzzling why it was left on the album...well not really, considering they're married, but still...
[www.youtube.com]
Skip to about 10:40 to hear it.
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Rokyfan
Why think they should be friends with people just because they are in the music business....
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keefriff99
Backing vocals on DW:
Jimmy Cliff, Don Covay, Beverly D'Angelo, Kirsty MacColl, Dolette McDonald, Janice Pendarvis, Patti Scialfa and Tom Waits
Holy shit, I never knew that.
And Beverly D'Angelo?? That's the Mom from the Chevy Chase Vacation movies (and Al Pacino's ex)? It can't be the same woman, can it?
Just listened to it...I actually like the song. She doesn't do that over-exaggerated yodeling on the album version.Quote
Elmo Lewis
This is a really good question. IMO it is one that can not be answered by us. There's too many nuances to it.
Springsteen and Seger are most likely musical reasons. Petty and Mellencamp on the other hand are very good. Maybe they're too close to the Stones.
Patti S. is credited on DW. What is surprising (at least to me) is that she is actually very good.
She's a very good singer, though on Springsteen's Live in NYC album, she does a little solo spot during band intros on 10th Avenue Freezeout which is absolutely atrocious. She sings a piece of one of her solo songs and it's this weird warbly, yodeling mess. It's absolutely puzzling why it was left on the album...well not really, considering they're married, but still...
[www.youtube.com]
Skip to about 10:40 to hear it.
Yes, her song is called "Rumble Girl".
Huh. Wild stuff...learn something new every day.Quote
Jah Paul
Backing vocals on DW:
Jimmy Cliff, Don Covay, Beverly D'Angelo, Kirsty MacColl, Dolette McDonald, Janice Pendarvis, Patti Scialfa and Tom Waits
Holy shit, I never knew that.
And Beverly D'Angelo?? That's the Mom from the Chevy Chase Vacation movies (and Al Pacino's ex)? It can't be the same woman, can it?
It's the same Beverly...she played Patsy Cline in "Coal Miner's Daughter" and did her own singing for the role.
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