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No. It's just not as good as some people think it is. They had way better to offer and didn't. That's all it is. Some people love it. That's great. But in context, it sucks.
That also holds of most Netflix (and other) series once they get beyond season 2.
Can I get that in coloured vinyl please?
Amazing the treasure of unreleased material, certainly unmatched...
Interesting thought ...but if you'll excuse me taking a slightly different tack.
I'm not sure about an "acoustic album" ...but wholly or largely acoustic numbers have always provided a wonderful contrast with their hard edged, high energy electric tracks.
These acoustic "breathers" have been very thin on the ground on "modern era" albums, which might have benefitted from that light and shade contrast in feel.
They could do a lot worse than putting a couple of proper acoustic numbers on the new album.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-25 15:17 by Spud.
In other words, a collection of songs containing barely a note that was actually worked on or considered for Tattoo You.
Its a potentially interesting collection of songs, but please, no more revisionist nonsense trying to pretend these songs were worked on for albums that they werent even considered for.
I love the idea of course. Every title you mention, Rocky, is a possibly superb song; would have been great if completed,. I myself would love to hear them in all their glory. And to top it off - they have done such albums in the past with great success.
I just don't trust Jagger to do them justice anymore. I don't even think Jagger himself trusts himself in that respect. He comes off confused: should I try and "be" the young Jagger; or should I come at them from my advanced POV?
Pretty sure Jagger himself now knows he just can not sing about lyrics that ring false or inappropriate.
This is the time for ageless songs. And what is frustrating is that as a young man Jagger was able to write these "ancient", timeless songs. As a wise, mature man it eludes him.
Yep ...conflicted .
I was approaching it as what ANOTHER TATTOO YOU could be like taking outtakes from the same era [GOATS HEAD SOUP through EMOTIONAL RESCUE]. I also don't pretend to think that what circulates on bootlegs or is listed in sessionographies are the sum total of their unreleased studio archives. That said, I don't think there is reason to believe they're considering releasing any more of these expanded reissues.
Maybe in hiding as this thread has resulted in nothing but opening a giant can of worms with no new album whatsoever - look at what he started!!!
This is on the money. That said, I treat tracks like "Pass the Wine" and "Plundered My Soul" as new tracks for 2010. The lyrics and vocals certainly represent their work 10 years ago rather than 40 years ago. The same is true of the lead guitar on "Plundered My Soul." I agree it's a shame they didn't have more finished versions of the original outtakes (without chord changes hollered out throughout "Do You Think I Care?" for instance) so we didn't see "No Spare Parts" and "Do You Think I Care?" turn into a catalog of place names. However, that's quibbling because I know what they might have been. As new songs from 2011, they're fine. Not classics by any measure, but fine for the most part. Taken together, 2010-2012 gave us a new CD's worth of material. The trouble is most of it was filler. Some of it ("So Divine" and "Keep Up Blues," for instance) should have been relegated to B-sides at best.
Flower Power
PEACE
We don't know that. It's possible some of those were worked on for TATTOO YOU yet alone previous albums. And why is it revisionist nonsense? They held songs over for the next album and albums later. It's certainly not absurd to think such a thing.
Years since last album: 15
Years supposedly working on new album: 7
Songs reportedly worked on: 40
Songs reportedly finished: 0
Probability they will release a new album sometime this year: 50%
Probability this album will be worth the wait: 25%
Probability the new album will have a few great songs: 30%
Probability the new album will have a few lame songs: 90%
Bonus topic: "Tattoo You" was determined NOT to be a compilation album.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-26 12:41 by TornAndFried.
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Hooray.
Now we just need the written posts to hit the 100,000 mark!
Currently at 12,806 - a long ways to go still, but at the slow rate the new album's progressing, anything's possible.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Someone spent his/her Sunday hitting the refresh button ~2000 times?
Anyway, at least some fundamental questions are answered now:
So, it is clear now that the forum didn't collapse (phewwww) and that the additional separator is another comma - which certainly takes us one step closer to the Grand Unified Theory (minimally).
What's left to be discovered is whether the new album will get more sales than this thread gets views ...
On 25-Jan-2020, 01:50 UTC there were 998,300 views of this thread - so someone obviously started a script which called this thread umpteen times within some minutes. It's quite easy ....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-26 21:30 by Irix.
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Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: January 25, 2020 02:45
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Maindefender
Wow now the SG deluxe disc is boring and sucks. This particular thread would make a good script for a Netflix series about nothing.....
No. It's just not as good as some people think it is. They had way better to offer and didn't. That's all it is. Some people love it. That's great. But in context, it sucks.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: January 25, 2020 04:47
Quote
GasLightStreet
It's just not as good as some people think it is. They had way better to offer and didn't. That's all it is. Some people love it. That's great. But in context, it sucks.
That also holds of most Netflix (and other) series once they get beyond season 2.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: January 25, 2020 05:41
Quote
Rocky Dijon
I don't know...imagine Save Me / Criss Cross Mind, Living in the Heart of Love, Drift Away, a completed I Love Ladies, Scarlet, It's a Lie, a finished Munich Hilton and Gangster's Moll, Misty Roads, Everlasting is My Love For You, and Fiji Jim with maybe a couple alternate versions like the Ride a Wave version of Slave and a speed-corrected Never Stop. It could be excellent.
Can I get that in coloured vinyl please?
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: January 25, 2020 08:02
There were indications that GOATS HEAD SOUP and TATTOO YOU were under consideration for expanded ediitons, but it appears they've abandoned plans for these. STICKY FINGERS was given a very different treatment and appears to have been the end of the line five years later.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: January 25, 2020 09:14
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
Maindefender
Wow now the SG deluxe disc is boring and sucks. This particular thread would make a good script for a Netflix series about nothing.....
No. It's just not as good as some people think it is. They had way better to offer and didn't. That's all it is. Some people love it. That's great. But in context, it sucks.
Amazing the treasure of unreleased material, certainly unmatched...
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: January 25, 2020 15:16
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
stickyfingers101
Have the Stones ever considered doing an all-acoustic album?
anybody? anybody? Bueller?
....and/or did they ever consider doing MTV's "Unplugged?"
were they ever asked?
anybody? anybody? Bueller?
They chose to do Stripped instead.
Acoustic album? Would be cool
Interesting thought ...but if you'll excuse me taking a slightly different tack.
I'm not sure about an "acoustic album" ...but wholly or largely acoustic numbers have always provided a wonderful contrast with their hard edged, high energy electric tracks.
These acoustic "breathers" have been very thin on the ground on "modern era" albums, which might have benefitted from that light and shade contrast in feel.
They could do a lot worse than putting a couple of proper acoustic numbers on the new album.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-25 15:17 by Spud.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: January 25, 2020 15:39
Quote
Rocky Dijon
I don't know...imagine Save Me / Criss Cross Mind, Living in the Heart of Love, Drift Away, a completed I Love Ladies, Scarlet, It's a Lie, a finished Munich Hilton and Gangster's Moll, Misty Roads, Everlasting is My Love For You, and Fiji Jim with maybe a couple alternate versions like the Ride a Wave version of Slave and a speed-corrected Never Stop. It could be excellent.
In other words, a collection of songs containing barely a note that was actually worked on or considered for Tattoo You.
Its a potentially interesting collection of songs, but please, no more revisionist nonsense trying to pretend these songs were worked on for albums that they werent even considered for.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: January 25, 2020 16:29
Quote
GazzaQuote
Rocky Dijon
I don't know...imagine Save Me / Criss Cross Mind, Living in the Heart of Love, Drift Away, a completed I Love Ladies, Scarlet, It's a Lie, a finished Munich Hilton and Gangster's Moll, Misty Roads, Everlasting is My Love For You, and Fiji Jim with maybe a couple alternate versions like the Ride a Wave version of Slave and a speed-corrected Never Stop. It could be excellent.
In other words, a collection of songs containing barely a note that was actually worked on or considered for Tattoo You.
Its a potentially interesting collection of songs, but please, no more revisionist nonsense trying to pretend these songs were worked on for albums that they werent even considered for.
I love the idea of course. Every title you mention, Rocky, is a possibly superb song; would have been great if completed,. I myself would love to hear them in all their glory. And to top it off - they have done such albums in the past with great success.
I just don't trust Jagger to do them justice anymore. I don't even think Jagger himself trusts himself in that respect. He comes off confused: should I try and "be" the young Jagger; or should I come at them from my advanced POV?
Pretty sure Jagger himself now knows he just can not sing about lyrics that ring false or inappropriate.
This is the time for ageless songs. And what is frustrating is that as a young man Jagger was able to write these "ancient", timeless songs. As a wise, mature man it eludes him.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: January 25, 2020 16:34
It is unpopular but several studies conclude that wisdom does not correlate with age.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Palace Revolution 2000
()
Date: January 25, 2020 16:35
Quote
Nikkei
It is unpopular but several studies conclude that wisdom does not correlate with age.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: January 25, 2020 16:44
Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
... And what is frustrating is that as a young man Jagger was able to write these "ancient", timeless songs. As a wise, mature man it eludes him.
Yep ...conflicted .
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Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Re: New Stones album for 2020? Posted by:
colonial
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Date: January 25, 2020 19:10
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colonial990,000...Quote
colonial
This thread is on the home straight to 1,000,000 views - unprecedented
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Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
colonial
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Date: January 25, 2020 19:18
btw where's Francis25 who started this thread back in 2016 he hasn't been heard of since
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Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: January 25, 2020 19:39
Quote
Gazza
In other words, a collection of songs containing barely a note that was actually worked on or considered for Tattoo You.
Its a potentially interesting collection of songs, but please, no more revisionist nonsense trying to pretend these songs were worked on for albums that they werent even considered for.
I was approaching it as what ANOTHER TATTOO YOU could be like taking outtakes from the same era [GOATS HEAD SOUP through EMOTIONAL RESCUE]. I also don't pretend to think that what circulates on bootlegs or is listed in sessionographies are the sum total of their unreleased studio archives. That said, I don't think there is reason to believe they're considering releasing any more of these expanded reissues.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: January 25, 2020 19:49
Quote
colonial
btw where's Francis25 who started this thread back in 2016 he hasn't been heard of since
Maybe in hiding as this thread has resulted in nothing but opening a giant can of worms with no new album whatsoever - look at what he started!!!
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: January 25, 2020 19:50
Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
I love the idea of course. Every title you mention, Rocky, is a possibly superb song; would have been great if completed,. I myself would love to hear them in all their glory. And to top it off - they have done such albums in the past with great success.
I just don't trust Jagger to do them justice anymore. I don't even think Jagger himself trusts himself in that respect. He comes off confused: should I try and "be" the young Jagger; or should I come at them from my advanced POV?
Pretty sure Jagger himself now knows he just can not sing about lyrics that ring false or inappropriate.
This is the time for ageless songs. And what is frustrating is that as a young man Jagger was able to write these "ancient", timeless songs. As a wise, mature man it eludes him.
This is on the money. That said, I treat tracks like "Pass the Wine" and "Plundered My Soul" as new tracks for 2010. The lyrics and vocals certainly represent their work 10 years ago rather than 40 years ago. The same is true of the lead guitar on "Plundered My Soul." I agree it's a shame they didn't have more finished versions of the original outtakes (without chord changes hollered out throughout "Do You Think I Care?" for instance) so we didn't see "No Spare Parts" and "Do You Think I Care?" turn into a catalog of place names. However, that's quibbling because I know what they might have been. As new songs from 2011, they're fine. Not classics by any measure, but fine for the most part. Taken together, 2010-2012 gave us a new CD's worth of material. The trouble is most of it was filler. Some of it ("So Divine" and "Keep Up Blues," for instance) should have been relegated to B-sides at best.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
StonesHippieRecluse
()
Date: January 25, 2020 20:29
I think he's a hermit living in a caravan parkQuote
colonial
btw where's Francis25 who started this thread back in 2016 he hasn't been heard of since
Flower Power
PEACE
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: January 25, 2020 23:04
Quote
GazzaQuote
Rocky Dijon
I don't know...imagine Save Me / Criss Cross Mind, Living in the Heart of Love, Drift Away, a completed I Love Ladies, Scarlet, It's a Lie, a finished Munich Hilton and Gangster's Moll, Misty Roads, Everlasting is My Love For You, and Fiji Jim with maybe a couple alternate versions like the Ride a Wave version of Slave and a speed-corrected Never Stop. It could be excellent.
In other words, a collection of songs containing barely a note that was actually worked on or considered for Tattoo You.
Its a potentially interesting collection of songs, but please, no more revisionist nonsense trying to pretend these songs were worked on for albums that they werent even considered for.
We don't know that. It's possible some of those were worked on for TATTOO YOU yet alone previous albums. And why is it revisionist nonsense? They held songs over for the next album and albums later. It's certainly not absurd to think such a thing.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
masseywinos
()
Date: January 26, 2020 03:15
Can someone please review the 427 pages and provide me with a summary. Thank you in advance.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: January 26, 2020 03:23
The Rolling Stones can't seem to cut the mustard. That's all there is to know
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
TornAndFried
()
Date: January 26, 2020 05:16
Quote
masseywinos
Can someone please review the 427 pages and provide me with a summary. Thank you in advance.
Years since last album: 15
Years supposedly working on new album: 7
Songs reportedly worked on: 40
Songs reportedly finished: 0
Probability they will release a new album sometime this year: 50%
Probability this album will be worth the wait: 25%
Probability the new album will have a few great songs: 30%
Probability the new album will have a few lame songs: 90%
Bonus topic: "Tattoo You" was determined NOT to be a compilation album.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-26 12:41 by TornAndFried.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: January 26, 2020 13:49
Quote
GazzaQuote
Rocky Dijon
I don't know...imagine Save Me / Criss Cross Mind, Living in the Heart of Love, Drift Away, a completed I Love Ladies, Scarlet, It's a Lie, a finished Munich Hilton and Gangster's Moll, Misty Roads, Everlasting is My Love For You, and Fiji Jim with maybe a couple alternate versions like the Ride a Wave version of Slave and a speed-corrected Never Stop. It could be excellent.
In other words, a collection of songs containing barely a note that was actually worked on or considered for Tattoo You.
Yes, exactly......
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
colonial
()
Date: January 26, 2020 18:00
1,000,000 Views - Unprecedented
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Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: January 26, 2020 18:03
990K less than 24 hours ago. Hmmm.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
colonial
()
Date: January 26, 2020 18:11
yea something funny was going on there I was sitting back watching the views go from 0 - 1,000 in something like 10 minutes... yeaQuote
bye bye johnny
990K less than 24 hours ago. Hmmm.
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Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: January 26, 2020 19:13
Quote
colonial
1,000,000 Views - Unprecedented
Hooray.
Now we just need the written posts to hit the 100,000 mark!
Currently at 12,806 - a long ways to go still, but at the slow rate the new album's progressing, anything's possible.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: January 26, 2020 20:50
Quote
colonial
1,000,000 Views - Unprecedented
Someone spent his/her Sunday hitting the refresh button ~2000 times?
Anyway, at least some fundamental questions are answered now:
Quote
doitywoik
... what will happen next? Will the forum collapse with the 1000000th (attempt at a) view? Which separator will appear between the 1 and the 000,000? A comma? A dot? Nothing at all?
And once the album is there, will it get more sales/streams than this thread has views?
So, it is clear now that the forum didn't collapse (phewwww) and that the additional separator is another comma - which certainly takes us one step closer to the Grand Unified Theory (minimally).
What's left to be discovered is whether the new album will get more sales than this thread gets views ...
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: January 26, 2020 20:50
Quote
colonialQuote
bye bye johnny
990K less than 24 hours ago. Hmmm.
yea something funny was going on there I was sitting back watching the views go from 0 - 1,000 in something like 10 minutes... yea
On 25-Jan-2020, 01:50 UTC there were 998,300 views of this thread - so someone obviously started a script which called this thread umpteen times within some minutes. It's quite easy ....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-01-26 21:30 by Irix.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: January 26, 2020 21:01
This morning the thread was still ca. 2000 views short of a million, I think. But what the heck 
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