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It wasn't meant as a dig at the Stones or even a comparison, just wishful/hopeful thinking.
If Van can do it, surely the Stones can do it?!!!!
As for live, I've seen him several times in the past including opening for the Stones twice, though one of them was cut short in Nijmegen due to torrential rain and lightening.
His current tour has quite a few more dates than the any of the No Filter legs had, and obviously it won't be seen by as many fans (he's playing small venues), but it certainly won't cost as much either.
Just playin' HB...
For the record though (pun intended ) I paid more to see him in Vegas than any of the six recent Stones shows I attended, and even got an upgrade Lucky Dip style when they closed the nosebleed row for the ticket I bought
As for paying more to see Van in Vegas, you should have also mentioned that for all the six recent Stones shows you attended you had Lucky Dips.
Van doesn't do Lucky Dips, but if he did I'm sure you would have bought those for Vegas making it a fair and square comparison!
But it's really apples and oranges in this case for so many reasons, and pitting the two up against eachother for any reason and/or comparisons is difficult.
But for the sake of it....
Van's recorded output since the Stones released their last album of originals in 2005:
Pay the Devil (2006)
Keep It Simple (2008)
Born to Sing: No Plan B (2012)
Duets: Re-working the Catalogue (2015)
Keep Me Singing (2016)
Roll with the Punches (2017)
Versatile (2017)
You're Driving Me Crazy (2018)
The Prophet Speaks (2018)
Yes there's been some covers amongst all of it, along with songs written by others, as well as duets, and of course some crap, etc., but no denying Van the Man has been a very busy man!
Not to mention the fact that he's been seemingly constantly touring during the last decade.
Listening to that new tune of his again right now, and it has that classic Van sound - there's really no mistaking it - classy with great/minimal production, excellent musicianship, and poetic/thought provoking lyrics.
This is my hope for a new Stones tune/album - something new that might have that classic Stonesy sound. Something of a similar quality to what Van has done, but of course being unique in it's own way.
Not a caricature of their former selves trying to mimic what they once were - simply a statement of who they are today without trying to reinvent the wheel - similar to what Keith did with Crosseyed Heart.
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Van Morrison has never been in the same league as the Stones, not even when he was in Them
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iraq0708The difference is no one cares about an ABBA album....Quote
jlowe
Well, the new music from ABBA is delayed until 2020.
And their last release was around 1982.
So, we have to be patient.....15 or so years is nothing really.
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Well, the new music from ABBA is delayed until 2020.
And their last release was around 1982.
So, we have to be patient.....15 or so years is nothing really.
I suspect a new ABBA album (which probably will not happen) would sell more copies worldwide than a new Sones album.
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Probably a pretty safe bet. It's hard to compare them, in terms of historical album sales, but their greatest hits comp - GOLD - has sold 30MM since 1992 while HOT ROCKS has I think sold about 13MM since 1971 ... for whatever that's worth.
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Perhaps we should just throw in the towel, go full OT, and start discussing new albums that WERE released in 2019:
I was diggin Brittany Howard's new record on the way to work today!
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Lazarus Smith
Probably a pretty safe bet. It's hard to compare them, in terms of historical album sales, but their greatest hits comp - GOLD - has sold 30MM since 1992 while HOT ROCKS has I think sold about 13MM since 1971 ... for whatever that's worth.
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Perhaps we should just throw in the towel, go full OT, and start discussing new albums that WERE released in 2019:
I was diggin Brittany Howard's new record on the way to work today!
Neil Young w/Crazy Horse album coming soon, and even though the first two songs released haven't been as great as hoped for and/or expected (imo), still looking forward to it.
Also, a new WHO album very soon!
At this rate, probably have more luck getting a brand new Led Zeppelin album than a new Stones album!
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jlowe
Well, the new music from ABBA is delayed until 2020.
And their last release was around 1982.
So, we have to be patient.....15 or so years is nothing really.
I suspect a new ABBA album (which probably will not happen) would sell more copies worldwide than a new Sones album.
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LazarusSmith
Perhaps we should just throw in the towel, go full OT, and start discussing new albums that WERE released in 2019:
I was diggin Brittany Howard's new record on the way to work today!
Neil Young w/Crazy Horse album coming soon, and even though the first two songs released haven't been as great as hoped for and/or expected (imo), still looking forward to it.
Also, a new WHO album very soon!
At this rate, probably have more luck getting a brand new Led Zeppelin album than a new Stones album!
Zepp!!!
Still, I must confess indifference to new material by classic rockers. I mean, I'm glad they're still trying (and I certainly wish The Stones would at least try) but IMHO the results are almost always pale copies of the artists' original majesties.
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iraq0708The difference is no one cares about an ABBA album....Quote
jlowe
Well, the new music from ABBA is delayed until 2020.
And their last release was around 1982.
So, we have to be patient.....15 or so years is nothing really.
I suspect a new ABBA album (which probably will not happen) would sell more copies worldwide than a new Sones album.
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GasLightStreet
375 pages.
How bout we all chip out and let this silly thread die before it gets to 400?
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375 pages.
How bout we all chip out and let this silly thread die before it gets to 400?
Why? They've already booked studio time for December (if not sooner). All that needs to happen is Bjornulf updates the title to NEW STONES ALBUM FOR 2020?
After all, HINDSIGHT is 2020.
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iraq0708The difference is no one cares about an ABBA album....Quote
jlowe
Well, the new music from ABBA is delayed until 2020.
And their last release was around 1982.
So, we have to be patient.....15 or so years is nothing really.
I suspect a new ABBA album (which probably will not happen) would sell more copies worldwide than a new Sones album.
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Stoneage
Ed Sheeran is mediocrity, ABBA is not. They did well crafted pop songs. You might not like them but they do not represent mediocrity. They had a unique sound.
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Hairball
maybe he can lend a helping hand to the Stones for the new album?
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maybe he can lend a helping hand to the Stones for the new album?
Maybe he can lend Björn and Benny to the Stones ...
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Time Rice has massive credentials...maybe he can lend a helping hand to the Stones for the new album?[/quote
Well, Tim Rice is also a great cricket fan. So an immediate rapport with Mick and Charlie.
Perhaps he could help Mick with his lyrics.
Jagger/Rice...sounds ok to me.
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Nikkei
Time Rice sounds intriguing, but the guy on sax is Tim Ries
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jloweWell, Tim Rice is also a great cricket fan. So an immediate rapport with Mick and Charlie.Quote
Hairball
Time Rice has massive credentials...maybe he can lend a helping hand to the Stones for the new album?
Perhaps he could help Mick with his lyrics.
Jagger/Rice...sounds ok to me.