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LV #1 on the 19th was cancelled due to Laryngitis.
LV #2 on the 22th was the last show with the main crew.
Most of the regular touring crew left on Sunday the 23rd.
Foxboro on the 25th was show a scheduled and contracted show, they could not cancel that.
All shows are scheduled and contracted. They have cancelled shows on recent tours. They could have cancelled the private show if they had needed to.
Are you a lawyer? Assuming they were paid 4 million US dollars for the private Foxboro show, who should pay for that if they cancelled? May be split it equally between Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Charlie? Just one million dollars on each. It is all in the contracts.
Also, would 18,000 people be able to arrive into Las Vegas for a show on Tuesday Oct 25, on a two days notice, if they announced LV #2 on Sunday Oct 23, using the "cancelled" Gillette date for a 2nd rescheduled LV show?
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LV #1 on the 19th was cancelled due to Laryngitis.
LV #2 on the 22th was the last show with the main crew.
Most of the regular touring crew left on Sunday the 23rd.
Foxboro on the 25th was show a scheduled and contracted show, they could not cancel that.
All shows are scheduled and contracted. They have cancelled shows on recent tours. They could have cancelled the private show if they had needed to.
Are you a lawyer? Assuming they were paid 4 million US dollars for the private Foxboro show, who should pay for that if they cancelled? May be split it equally between Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Charlie? Just one million dollars on each. It is all in the contracts.
Also, would 18,000 people be able to arrive into Las Vegas for a show on Tuesday Oct 25, on a two days notice, if they announced LV #2 on Sunday Oct 23, using the "cancelled" Gillette date for a 2nd rescheduled LV show?
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LV #1 on the 19th was cancelled due to Laryngitis.
LV #2 on the 22th was the last show with the main crew.
Most of the regular touring crew left on Sunday the 23rd.
Foxboro on the 25th was show a scheduled and contracted show, they could not cancel that.
They looked into rescheduling the LV #1 show after the Foxboro date, but bringing in a different crew not knowing the show would be impossible. Also, I can't see how 18,000 people may rearrange travel, work, hotels and come back to Las Vegas for a show on Thursday 27. A tour is about logistics. Las Vegas is not a normal city. Most fans fly in from far away. Most people can not take time off work and book flights on four days notice.
The Rolling Stones owe us nothing. If you feel you have invested your life in the Stones and you expect them to pay back before they retire then sorry it does not work that way. A Rolling Stones show is a product just like an airline ticket or a hotel room. It may be cancelled and then they will refund. Over the years they have cancelled few shows, very, very few cancellations, but when the show is the last one, or close to the end of the tour, like Hanging Rock or LV #1, there is no mercy, they can't do it.
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LV #1 on the 19th was cancelled due to Laryngitis.
LV #2 on the 22th was the last show with the main crew.
Most of the regular touring crew left on Sunday the 23rd.
Foxboro on the 25th was show a scheduled and contracted show, they could not cancel that.
All shows are scheduled and contracted. They have cancelled shows on recent tours. They could have cancelled the private show if they had needed to.
Are you a lawyer? Assuming they were paid 4 million US dollars for the private Foxboro show, who should pay for that if they cancelled? May be split it equally between Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Charlie? Just one million dollars on each. It is all in the contracts.
Also, would 18,000 people be able to arrive into Las Vegas for a show on Tuesday Oct 25, on a two days notice, if they announced LV #2 on Sunday Oct 23, using the "cancelled" Gillette date for a 2nd rescheduled LV show?
Are YOU THEIR lawyer BV? Always sticking up for THEM, never siding it seems for we the paying fans? How about siding with us, for once, those of us in less fortunate positions than you, who can, with no doubt well deserved good fortune, attend every and all shows you wish. Some, indeed, the vast majority of us can't. We scrimp and save to attend a few. Then one gets cxld, yet the band plays a private show a week later to line their pockets at the expense of playing a show for at least some of us who could attend a rescheduled gig. Absolutely no defence I am afraid.
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For them there is no difference between a private show and a public show.
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If Jagger couldn't go on, they would have cancelled. One thing you can't hang on them is that they are No Shows...they're pro's and set a very high bar....now how smart to set a mini tour of 4 shows only?.....that's a fair criticism and begs the question was this just a money grab tour...more than likely....
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This same type of thing happened in Milano 1998. Funny enough the concert was around half sold out when Mick came up with laryngitis. Okay, some say he broke in the previous concert in Nurnberg. To be honest I don't know. But I can tell you it's a fact Italian Fans did not get refunded until 6 months later, meaning someone made up the money on interest. I know this because my friend is close to the promoter. Fortunately I had a free ticket to this no-event in the end. Point I'm trying to make is the illness was honest some of us still won't believe it. Which is a shame of course. I don't want to think bad thoughts about somebody and something I love for so many years. Anyhow, all things considered I'm starting to wonder if they're thinking why bother to continue. The idea of ending on a whimper instead of a bang also crossed my mind. At this point I think anything could happen.
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This same type of thing happened in Milano 1998. Funny enough the concert was around half sold out when Mick came up with laryngitis. Okay, some say he broke in the previous concert in Nurnberg. To be honest I don't know.
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bv
I was in Nuremberg 1998. Of course. Mick lost his voice completely half way through the show.
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I'm curious as to how someone knows both Vegas shows were "nearly sold out"?
Have you seen show audits from AEG? If yes, please share.
I'm very very curious to know the actual sold number for the Vegas shows, not Casino buys or comps, actual sold seats to the general public.
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I'm curious as to how someone knows both Vegas shows were "nearly sold out"?
Have you seen show audits from AEG? If yes, please share.
I'm very very curious to know the actual sold number for the Vegas shows, not Casino buys or comps, actual sold seats to the general public.
And a breakdown by age, gender and reason for buying.
Otherwise it's all a sham, apparently
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Monsoon Ragoon
Just watched the Fort Worth BR with the bonus material. SNL 78 - the first laryngitis show?
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Just watched the Fort Worth BR with the bonus material. SNL 78 - the first laryngitis show?
Hamburg 1965? Might be just alcohol, though..
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SNL 78 - the first laryngitis show?
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If Jagger couldn't go on, they would have cancelled. One thing you can't hang on them is that they are No Shows...they're pro's and set a very high bar....now how smart to set a mini tour of 4 shows only?.....that's a fair criticism and begs the question was this just a money grab tour...more than likely....
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They could've rescheduled. Buy they would've had to spend some money to hire new crew etc. Heaven forbid!!!!