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buttons67
400 records on decca alone, i take it many are outtakes and unreleased, so what i would want to know is, how many are finished, would get finished in future and what would be released through the vaults either by the band, abcko or any other source.
and would similar info come out regarding the post decca to present recordings.
would be great to have a complete finished database of all stones discography just to get a figure of how many songs they actually performed/released whether in an official or unofficial capacity.
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1963luca0
2. based on a clipping of the time
I consider the content of this clipping (taken from a music mag unknown to me) unreliable, but still very interesting. In particular the journalist states that demonstration copies were pressed and distributed. This point is very weak. Generally speaking, the reason why demonstration copies of poor selling singles are much easier to find than commercial copies is that DECCA Records used to press a high number of demonstration copies, not minding how relevant or potentially succefull that record was. In other words, for minor singles there are more demo copies than the commercial ones circulating. Coming at ‘Poison Ivy’, no demonstration copies are known. On top of that, the short article reports that ‘one or two early copies had reached the shops’.
It’s not believable, definitely. Selected shops in England, i.e. those whose sale reports were used to compile the charts, received tens of copies per each new title, actually. If ‘Poison Ivy’ had reached the shops, a minimum of few tens of copies would have been sold, not one or two. Again, advertisements on magazines had to be planned in advance, in order to have the new single promoted the same day it was out and no trade alerts are known for ‘Poison Ivy’, as far as I know. All in all, I believe the journalist wrote the article unaware he was manipulated by Andrew Loog Oldham.
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jlowe
Re the 'Pop Weekly article.
Some hilarious statements:
-'famous feature film Director Georgio G'
-'the group will play five-year dead end kids in a 60 minute film'
-'they are skedded (?) to sing'
Sounds like a bit of Andrew Oldham PR (fantasy).
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Blueranger
Regarding the DECCA logo on 40 Licks:
The DECCA logo was also found on the ROLLED GOLD+ release in 2007, together with ABKCO's own logo, so my guess is that Decca still has some kind of involvement.
The GRRR...!!! compilation is also a joint effort, so 40 Licks is not the only example of ABKCO / Stones working together.
The band could also use studio outtakes from 1969-1970 for the Exile Deluxe edition, though they were recorded under the ABKCO contract. The band also gave the green light for ABKCO to release the Ya-Ya's Deluxe, which included previously unreleased material. The IORR magazine from 2009 has an interview with Jody Klein who states that ABKCO / Rolling Stones coorporates a lot more than people think. Also, the EXHIBITIONISM in London included A LOT of ABKCO copyrighted material, though still a RS creation.
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jlowe
Did GRRR !!! mention DECCA in its credits by the way?