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People slagging off this release should be happy and thankful we got Scorsese mixing things up with Stones.

Why should we be happy Scorsese is mixing things up with the Stones? It's a dreadful gig, turned into a dreadful movie. They tried to produce something that just wasn't there, and the movie just shows exactly that. They needed to reinvent themselves in 2012 before they regained something of their old sparkle.

Mathijs

I saw this on the big screen and LOVED IT. Bought the DVD and thought, mmm, not sure about a lot of this!

Rod

Ditto.

To much false nonsense...but the performance itself isn't as bad a some folks make out .

I still give it the occasional spin.

Keith was, sadly, still in the middle of his worst "aimless noodling" phase.

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Ditto.

To much false nonsense...but the performance itself isn't as bad a some folks make out .

I still give it the occasional spin.

Keith was, sadly, still in the middle of his worst "aimless noodling" phase.

Well, Keith was recovering from two cerebral infarctions or strokes. They should have waited until he recovered, instead of producing such a farce.

Mathijs

Loved it at the time, still have a liking for it. Seeing it twice in cinema was wonderful - first time the cinema was about 1/3 full, but second time in a different venue the cinema was full and a great energy! 'She Was Hot' was such an eye-opener, how good it was live and actually a highlight.

The press conference in Berlin Scorsese and the band, the hype around the release - I recall it fondly.

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Well, Keith was recovering from two cerebral infarctions or strokes. They should have waited until he recovered, instead of producing such a farce.

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Quite so ... it was post Keith's "bump on the noggin" but those discussions are perhaps not for these pages.

There was so much b*llocks posted around here at the time ...and much if it by folks who ought to know better.



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The JJF-riff is almost unrecognisable. I'm sorry, but this was a rough gig for Keith.

However, All Down The Line was excellent.

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The JJF-riff is almost unrecognisable. I'm sorry, but this was a rough gig for Keith.

However, All Down The Line was excellent.

After posting an hour ago on it I am revisiting the album - 'All down the Line' is great, yes. Many highlights throughout -Loving Cup, Some Girls, Champagne, Imagination. Even the warhorses sound energised for the most part.

Jagger sings some of the tracks in not just an affected, over-enunciated way, but overly nasally - particularly JJF, As Tears, Brown Sugar, one or two more. My daughter has seen many Stones live DVD's, but when I play this one, she asks why Mick sounds so strange on JJF!

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Ditto.

To much false nonsense...but the performance itself isn't as bad a some folks make out .

I still give it the occasional spin.

Keith was, sadly, still in the middle of his worst "aimless noodling" phase.

Well, Keith was recovering from two cerebral infarctions or strokes. They should have waited until he recovered, instead of producing such a farce.

Mathijs

Well, if we go there, they at least should have given Mick a couple of days for his
throat to recover and not let him attempt a world record in over-nuanced nasal singing.

But it is what it is.

- Doxa

Fantastic Live album, feels like an event, and the last time they sounded wild and full of energy, like a young band. Charlie is incredible in here, a God.

Listen to ADTL and the listen to live at the racket..

For those lambasting the DVD release: in the cinema, the sound was extraordinarily good, with the guitars really upfront in the mix. My dad enjoyed it so much, t that he even returned, bringing my mum. She was less impressed. I remember him telling me there were only three at the viewing.

Keith said something about A Brussels Affair to the effect that the band's performance is affected by the knowledge (or not) that it is being recorded. That is true for this concert and movie. It is a sad affair. As Mathijs noted, it is a strained performance struggling to be exciting. How do you make JJF not be sexy? By making it over long to the point of tediousness. Hard to do. Same for TD. The movie was broadcast on TCM the other day. I perversely recorded it but could not get through it, again. The band simply did not give Scorsese anything to work with. Unlike The Band for TLW the Stones have been amply covered over the years. This film came much too late. The anxiety over the setlist is silly. Anyone on this board could have come up with most of it in a snap.

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The JJF-riff is almost unrecognisable. I'm sorry, but this was a rough gig for Keith.

However, All Down The Line was excellent.

Ha ha - sounds like the same ol' slaughtering (although slower) since 1972!

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Keith said something about A Brussels Affair to the effect that the band's performance is affected by the knowledge (or not) that it is being recorded. That is true for this concert and movie. It is a sad affair. As Mathijs noted, it is a strained performance struggling to be exciting. How do you make JJF not be sexy? By making it over long to the point of tediousness. Hard to do. Same for TD. The movie was broadcast on TCM the other day. I perversely recorded it but could not get through it, again. The band simply did not give Scorsese anything to work with. Unlike The Band for TLW the Stones have been amply covered over the years. This film came much too late. The anxiety over the setlist is silly. Anyone on this board could have come up with most of it in a snap.

Mick Jagger (2008): Choosing the set list
It was quite a difficult set list to do. It's a film to watch in a movie house or on DVD. So it's got its own aesthetic. You're not going to do the same show you do in a big place. The problem was, we didn't have a theater show on this tour... And then the other thing was that it's always nice in a film like this to have guest artists. So you had to think about them, what kind of numbers were they going to sing and what could they do... And also, I had to balance off the fact that we had some prior commitments to shoot a DVD of the tour as well. so I had to try to make the set list different from the DVD set list. It doesn't really come out in the film, but that was my big headache. I had to work out what shows we were going to play, this one and that one and the other one and so they wouldn't be the same but, nevertheless, be related.

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That whole set list thing in the movie is ridiculous. "Drama".

Mick thinking the set list had to be whatever... that tour leg the set lists were quite different from 2005 - they could've easily done the set list they did for Giants Stadium. They didn't do Midnight Rambler but otherwise it's not too different in regard to how they were playing some different tunes than normal.

It was fantastic in a theatre, complete opposite at home, and the live album didn't improve anything. As pointed out, although not verbatim, it seems forced. They weren't exactly playing good for the entire tour, to my ears, Keith's incident or not. Looking at the amount of shows, perhaps they over did it.

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Mick Jagger (2008):
It's a film to watch in a movie house or on DVD. So it's got its own aesthetic.

So in other words, Mick is saying this is the same as any other film? lol. How else would you watch a movie? I get that you say whatever when you're trying to do promo, but that's one of the more hilarious things I've seen. If he had just said movie house I understand what he means, but when you throw in DVD its like "right, so its a movie you watch at home or a theater, like any other movie in history cause those are the two ways to watch films."

Mick is performing for the dvd not for the people attending the show. However the people attending look so silly. Everybody knows they hired models to be front row. There is zero connection between band and audience in the movie. It feels like a gig filmed in a studio. Sound is horrible as well. Mixing volume up what you see is just strange.

CD is much better. Not the best gig but I enjoy it. 6.5/10

06/07 was weird. Keith was ok to very good after his accident in 06, but then in 07 he was in no shape to tour, before recovering af the end of the tour.

I have hated the film and the album from practically the first time I heard it/saw it. They play like crap. I like All Down The Line, but compared to the freight train it was on the Like A Rolling Stone cd-single / Totally Stripped concerts, it pales. Then there is fine versions of Just My Imagination and Some Girls. The version of Undercover Of The Night was really great, but then it was only available as a Japanese bonus track…

I remember a very cringe-worthy moment where Keith in an interview segment says something to the effect that apart, him and Ronnie are ordinary as guitarists, but together they are better than almost everyone. Cross-clipping to Keith during the solo of Connection, totally slaughtering an attempt at a solo.

No thanks. They have way better live releases.



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If anyone wants to watch:

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Sadly can't get the watermarks off the video when I watch but put it up on my TV and had it as background and didn't bother me much. The bonus stuff on the DVD from the YouTube link are cool too. Rehearsals and then the bonus tracks.

How could I forget Keith's audible "shut up" in the film version of Far Away Eyes. And sappy and manufactured as it may be, I'm a sucker for when Mick and Keith sing into the same mic holding their heads together during this performance:

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Keith misses the line "ain't worth", it seems to slowly register with Mick, he glances towards Keith, then Keith... "shut up ha ha ha ha"... some serious loafing and posing and at the end sings the wrong words!

It's funny but not like She's So Cold 1982 funny. Keith wasn't posing in 1982 for the cameras. And as fast as Mick sang some songs then, he didn't rush entire phrases.

2006 was definitely a weird time for The Rolling Stones.

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For those lambasting the DVD release: in the cinema, the sound was extraordinarily good

No it wasn't. It was nauseating. They turned up the volume of each member that was in the movie shot to unbearable levels.

Mathijs

The volume boost for a Keith or Ronnie riff was a bit different (than previous live releases) for AT THE MAX but for SHINE A LIGHT it's a bit much. When I was still interested I hoped the live album didn't do that. After two listens it hasn't been played since. Got the DVD and watched it once.

Some things are better left in a theatre viewed as a live show.

It's the only release (video and album) I regret buying. Only because someone gave me THE BIGGEST BANG, which is terrible.

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It's the only release (video and album) I regret buying.

Tell us how you really feel!

I have a lot of nostalgia for Shine a Light.

I was 17 when it came out, and I remember it being a big deal for me since I only got to see one show early on in the Bang Tour (Giant Stadium '05 - great show but probably my least favorite of the ones I've seen). So I made it a point to go see it.

My dad and I were the only ones in a little theater on Staten Island and I just remember dancing around the theater and really rocking out, so happy to see my favorite band even if it was on a screen.

At the time, I was not aware of the many inherent flaws within the performance. I just thought it was a great latter day Stones document.

Listening to it now, some of the shine has worn off. Sympathy is a godawful performance, Mick's vocals are forced and nasally, the Scorsese interludes are cringe-y, and Keith fails to pull it totally together during his set. I could have done without the guest appearances too.

On the other hand, some performances still hold up. JJF, Brown Sugar, and Satisfaction are ripping versions. In fact, the first nine songs are excellent (with maybe the exception of Loving Cup - I love Jack White but he doesn't add much here).

It falls apart for Keith's set, and it only recovers intermittently. The bonus tracks help, although T&A is a mess and Undercover should've stayed undercover.

The Fall 2006 leg has some excellent shows. Giant Stadium 9/27 and Atlantic City 11/17 are both worthy representations of what the band sounded like when they were on that run. AC especially is like night and day for Keith when compared to SAL. Would love an official release of that one.



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This marketed show, with extras in the front row... I watched it once, and that was enough for me.

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie

Loved this from day one and still watch it probably more than any other DVD (bar possibly the Totally Stripped box), Can't understand any hate.

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The JJF-riff is almost unrecognisable. I'm sorry, but this was a rough gig for Keith.

However, All Down The Line was excellent.

After posting an hour ago on it I am revisiting the album - 'All down the Line' is great, yes. Many highlights throughout -Loving Cup, Some Girls, Champagne, Imagination. Even the warhorses sound energised for the most part.

Jagger sings some of the tracks in not just an affected, over-enunciated way, but overly nasally - particularly JJF, As Tears, Brown Sugar, one or two more. My daughter has seen many Stones live DVD's, but when I play this one, she asks why Mick sounds so strange on JJF!

The European DVD is pitched up a half step since they messed up the NTCS to PAL convention. That makes Mick sound like a Micky Mouse at times.
Apart from that Mick also sang a bit nasal at the time. He actually had laryngitis right before the first show, there was also another show cancelled because of that.

That NTSC to PAL thing was always a pain in the backside !

It's surprising how wrong that small error can sometimes make things sound.

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The JJF-riff is almost unrecognisable. I'm sorry, but this was a rough gig for Keith.

However, All Down The Line was excellent.

After posting an hour ago on it I am revisiting the album - 'All down the Line' is great, yes. Many highlights throughout -Loving Cup, Some Girls, Champagne, Imagination. Even the warhorses sound energised for the most part.

Jagger sings some of the tracks in not just an affected, over-enunciated way, but overly nasally - particularly JJF, As Tears, Brown Sugar, one or two more. My daughter has seen many Stones live DVD's, but when I play this one, she asks why Mick sounds so strange on JJF!

The European DVD is pitched up a half step since they messed up the NTCS to PAL convention. That makes Mick sound like a Micky Mouse at times.
Apart from that Mick also sang a bit nasal at the time. He actually had laryngitis right before the first show, there was also another show cancelled because of that.

The Blu Ray got correct speed! I recommend it. It's far superior because of the correct speed and pitch.

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The JJF-riff is almost unrecognisable. I'm sorry, but this was a rough gig for Keith.

However, All Down The Line was excellent.

After posting an hour ago on it I am revisiting the album - 'All down the Line' is great, yes. Many highlights throughout -Loving Cup, Some Girls, Champagne, Imagination. Even the warhorses sound energised for the most part.

Jagger sings some of the tracks in not just an affected, over-enunciated way, but overly nasally - particularly JJF, As Tears, Brown Sugar, one or two more. My daughter has seen many Stones live DVD's, but when I play this one, she asks why Mick sounds so strange on JJF!

The European DVD is pitched up a half step since they messed up the NTCS to PAL convention. That makes Mick sound like a Micky Mouse at times.
Apart from that Mick also sang a bit nasal at the time. He actually had laryngitis right before the first show, there was also another show cancelled because of that.

The Blu Ray got correct speed! I recommend it. It's far superior because of the correct speed and pitch.

Good to know!

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The Fall 2006 leg has some excellent shows. Giant Stadium 9/27 and Atlantic City 11/17 are both worthy representations of what the band sounded like when they were on that run. AC especially is like night and day for Keith when compared to SAL. Would love an official release of that one.

I agree with you! Those two shows are excellent!
It's very obvious that the band wasn't in good shape those days!
Keith recovering and Mick with laryngitis on Halloween