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tomcasagranda
I'm always perturbed about Live Licks; why did they edit Rocks Off, badly ? Secondly, why wasn't Rock Me Baby with Angus & Malcolm Young not on it ? Better that than Dave Matthews on Memory Motel from No Security.
The absolute truth.
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Glam Descendant
My main beef with disk 2 is the omissions of "Can't Turn You Loose" and " Love Train" (yes, I know they're on FF DVD).
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floodonthepage
Good lord. I streamed "Live Licks" this weekend, after years of disregarding it (never having bought it) and it seems my initial instinct was right, for my taste anyway. That edit on "Rocks Off" is pure garbage, and the rarities on Disc 2, which by all accounts should have made this album indispensable, often sound uninspired. I saw all three Chicago shows on the Licks tour, and whether it was the Comiskey Park show, the UC or the almighty Aragon Ballroom, those shows were great and full of spirit. This collection does not do that spirit justice. Getting back to "Rocks Off", honestly what is gained by editing such a small section like that? Wow. In my opinion, this is easily the worst live release in their discography. This adds to a relative rough patch around that time, with the release of "Rarities" and the ridiculous historical inaccuracies in the liner notes...not to mention the airbrushed cover. There are plenty of shots they could have used that reflect the band as a foursome, no need to pick a fivesome shot and change it.
Short of these two releases, the rest of the Stones original body of work (i.e. minus compilations) is truly indispensable...to me anyway.
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muncy23
So I have been working out a lot lately and listening to one of God's great creations (Apple Music). I literally have all the music in the world at my fingertips for 9.99 a month. But I decided to dust off "Live Licks" afters years of neglecting it. The Licks Tour was my first tour (15 yrs old) and i had the opportunity to see 3 shows. IMO the tour was the last great Stones tour, although i have seen plenty of good shows since. But the Album that is supposed to capture the essence of the tour failed miserably for any true Stones fan. I can pick apart the selective editing of the songs because i know each one by heart and how they were played during the tour. This CD mixes multiple performances in different venues and attempts to present as a single show (to the virgin ear of course). Some of my many problems:
Opening track Brown Sugar: This is from the B'Stage at madison square garden. Of all the MONSTER opening Brown Sugars on the tour, why in the f**k would they choose to go with the B-Stage version and present it like they are flying out on stage with lights blaring and fans going nuts? They also CUT THE LAST OF 3 opening RIFFS THAT KEITH PLAYS. What in the the F**K??
Street Fighting MAN- Second song takes place on the B-Stage at Twickenham Stadium and THEY CUT OFF SOME OF THE OPENING RIFFS WHICH IS ONE OF THE GREATEST LIVE SONGS IN THE HISTORY OF LIVE MUSIC. The opening part could go on forever and people would freakin love it. They CUT IT SHORT!! OMFG. And THEY CUT OFF THE ENDING BY ABOUT A MINUTE. In the show, they jam out the ending for a good minute longer than they do on the CD. They actually selectively cut out different parts of the ending jam too. It is a clusterf**k of selective editing.
Rocks Off- Stadium show, they CUT OUT THE PART OF "The sunshine bores the daylights out of me!". This supposed to be the start of climax of the song and then go into a 1-2 minute jam to finish the song. Why would they CHEAT US OUT OF GETTING THE FULL PLEASURE OF THIS SONG.
Other songs are edited too, included cutting off the endings of the songs which, as a live Stones fan, are the greatest parts of the concert experience; when they JAM OUT THE SONG TO NO END AND TAKE THE SHOW TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL. This part of the live experience is what differentiates the STONES FROM EVERY OTHER LIVE BAND AND IS THE REASON THEY ARE THE GREATEST LIVE BAND OF ALL TIME> THIS ALBUM CAPUTURES ZERO OF THAT MAGIC AND I AM BOYCOTTED THIS ALBUM FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE> IT IS UNFORGIVABLE THE LEVEL AT WHICH THEY BOTCHED THIS POTENTIAL GREATEST LIVE ALBUM. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING
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DandelionPowderman
< do agree that Four Flicks has more to offer than the audio only Live Licks album>
Way better sound, no horrible editing and more songs. Oh, and the video!
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OpenG
The Four Licks DVD is awesome - I watch a lot - CD 1 - The midnight rambler rehersal number sounds so good, Jagger singing Worried About You during the outside rehersal is awesome, and Keith plugging in and playing that first suspended chord sounds awesome.
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SomeGuy
If you have Four Flicks you don't need Live Licks (unless you want to play that particular recording in your car).
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SomeGuy
If you have Four Flicks you don't need Live Licks (unless you want to play that particular recording in your car).
Or perhaps if you really want to hear the different CYHMK-version from The Wiltern and BOB.
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SomeGuy
20 of the 23 songs (the actual recordings that is) on Live Licks are on Four Flicks also. The rest, 3 songs, are on Four Flicks also (albeit 1 incomplete, if I remember correctly) but they are different recordings.
To release a live 'double album' that has only 3 'new' recordings, which are just different takes of the same songs, played on the actual same dates as Four Flicks, a full year after the DVD was released and to pretend its a 'new' live album? Sorry, no.
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HMS
Most people found it quite hard to play the four DVD´s in their portable CD-Players, car-players, stand-alone-CD-player and so on... Some people were not able to rip the audio from DVD´s. The content of the CDs wasn´t new but you finally could play the music outside your living-room. That´s why I welcomed the Live-Licks-release.