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Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: swaymusik ()
Date: February 25, 2016 02:50

Worried About You!

cool smiley

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: February 25, 2016 03:01

1. Some Girls (9/10)
2. Tattoo You (8.5/10)
3. Undercover (8/10)
4. Black And Blue (7.5/10)
5. Goats Head Soup (7/10)
6. IORR (6/10)
7. Emotional Rescue (5/10)
8. Dirty Work (4/10)

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: frenki09 ()
Date: February 25, 2016 04:39

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GasLightStreet
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frenki09

I really believe that the Dirty Work album would have worked live very well. If Emotional Rescue or Anybody Seen My Baby is part of the set list, Winning Ugly could be as well.

You're wrong. Nothing from DIRTY WORK would have worked live well (not at all) with exception to Keith's Too Rude with the X-Pensive Winos. And Winning Ugly is tremendously awful - it's criminal you even mention it with ER or ASMB!

Replace those 3 DW tracks that HMS vomited with any other tracks. Anything's better than DW tracks.

I love Dirty Work so much that I listened to it 99 times today. Danced to Winning Ugly. It was pretty ugly, but hey! It's one of the better albums of this mediocre period! smoking smiley

I Had It With You, GasLightStreet! I'll Fight you any time, even if it's Too Rude to say. It will be a Dirty Work, but I don't mind Winning Ugly. I will not Hold Back and it'll be One Hit To The Body, and you'll be done, Back To Zero, back to nothing. And I will do my victory dance, the Harlem Shuffle. Sleep Tonight!

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 25, 2016 04:45

I love Dirty Work so much that I listened to it 99 times today



Running time for Dirty Work is 40 mins ....

99 x 40 = 3960mins .... Not bad for a 66 Hour day ...HHHaaaaaaaa



ROCKMAN

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: February 25, 2016 04:47

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Rockman
I love Dirty Work so much that I listened to it 99 times today



Running time for Dirty Work is 40 mins ....

99 x 40 = 3960mins .... Not bad for a 66 Hour day ...HHHaaaaaaaa

he only plays the good songs though, so he still has 23 hours and 56 minutes a day available.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: February 25, 2016 04:56

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Big Al
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HMS



Tattoo You is an excellent compilation of revived leftovers but not a genuine album. I am not able to see it as a genuine Stones-album, no matter how hard I try, it is and will always remain a compilation album.

I have to disagree, here. Tattoo You was marketed as a new Rolling Stones album. I don't see what the age and origins of the recordings has to do with it. The likes of Worried About You and Waiting On A Friend were not publicly-known prior the the album's 1981 release. If the record was considered a compilation, it would have been promoted as such.

HMS is an agitator!

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: February 25, 2016 06:51

Tatoo you is not a real album, it is a compilation, kind of like Metamorphosis

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: Pecman ()
Date: February 25, 2016 07:20

Paleeze...........

Tattoo You is the #6 best Stones album of all time.

What is the problem calling this an album?

What was Exile?..they had tracks going back to 1969.

What was Black and Blue..that had tracks going back to 1973.

So the Stones got really motivated in 1977 - 1978 and made Some Girls.

Sorry we got Some Girls in 1978 instead of Tattoo You..NOT!...nobody would trade that history...it all worked out great.

PECMAN

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: frenki09 ()
Date: February 25, 2016 08:09

Quote
Rockman
I love Dirty Work so much that I listened to it 99 times today



Running time for Dirty Work is 40 mins ....

99 x 40 = 3960mins .... Not bad for a 66 Hour day ...HHHaaaaaaaa

Totally busted! You are winning ugly. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Date: February 25, 2016 11:04

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Pecman
Paleeze...........

Tattoo You is the #6 best Stones album of all time.

What is the problem calling this an album?

What was Exile?..they had tracks going back to 1969.

What was Black and Blue..that had tracks going back to 1973.

So the Stones got really motivated in 1977 - 1978 and made Some Girls.

Sorry we got Some Girls in 1978 instead of Tattoo You..NOT!...nobody would trade that history...it all worked out great.

PECMAN

And almost half of the tracks on SF were from 1969.

Which tracks on Black And Blue were from 1973, btw?

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: February 25, 2016 11:10

Come on, of course Tattoo You is a real album. Their first albums were made while touring, Exile on Main Street was half recorded in France, half in L.A. It doesn't matter how, when or why songs were recorded, in which order, or in what year.
The only thing that matters is whether the end result is not just a collection of songs without any link (i.e. Metamorphosis or Flowers) or whether it's a strong and beautiful mosaic of what the Stones are all about: rock n roll, soul, blues, etc... Tattoo You with the classic "side A" and "side B", is a piece of art, just as Exile or Let It Bleed are. The fact that Worried About You was made early 70's and Neighbours late 70's doesn't matter at all, when they both end up so well on the same album and connect.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: February 25, 2016 11:21

A studioalbum contains songs recorded in a studio and never been released on a record Before...easy rules...

2 1 2 0

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Date: February 25, 2016 11:25

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matxil
Come on, of course Tattoo You is a real album. Their first albums were made while touring, Exile on Main Street was half recorded in France, half in L.A. It doesn't matter how, when or why songs were recorded, in which order, or in what year.
The only thing that matters is whether the end result is not just a collection of songs without any link (i.e. Metamorphosis or Flowers) or whether it's a strong and beautiful mosaic of what the Stones are all about: rock n roll, soul, blues, etc... Tattoo You with the classic "side A" and "side B", is a piece of art, just as Exile or Let It Bleed are. The fact that Worried About You was made early 70's and Neighbours late 70's doesn't matter at all, when they both end up so well on the same album and connect.

+ in London in 1969 and 1970.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Date: February 25, 2016 11:29

Most of the songs on TY are from 1979, with further overdubs in 1980. It's as real as the other albums, even though Slave, Worried About You and Tops are from earlier sessions.

They started SMU and Hang Fire earlier, too, but re-recorded much of those songs.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: February 25, 2016 18:40

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Turner68
Tatoo you is not a real album, it is a compilation, kind of like Metamorphosis

Yeah, yeah, okay. I'm driven to alcohol reading this message board; I swear.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 26, 2016 00:57

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frenki09
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GasLightStreet
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frenki09

I really believe that the Dirty Work album would have worked live very well. If Emotional Rescue or Anybody Seen My Baby is part of the set list, Winning Ugly could be as well.

You're wrong. Nothing from DIRTY WORK would have worked live well (not at all) with exception to Keith's Too Rude with the X-Pensive Winos. And Winning Ugly is tremendously awful - it's criminal you even mention it with ER or ASMB!

Replace those 3 DW tracks that HMS vomited with any other tracks. Anything's better than DW tracks.

I love Dirty Work so much that I listened to it 99 times today. Danced to Winning Ugly. It was pretty ugly, but hey! It's one of the better albums of this mediocre period! smoking smiley

I Had It With You, GasLightStreet! I'll Fight you any time, even if it's Too Rude to say. It will be a Dirty Work, but I don't mind Winning Ugly. I will not Hold Back and it'll be One Hit To The Body, and you'll be done, Back To Zero, back to nothing. And I will do my victory dance, the Harlem Shuffle. Sleep Tonight!

frenki09, you got Nothing On Me. The worst album in the history of recorded music and you dare say you love it "so much" even. The absurdity of your statement is Trouble and clearly you have a case of incredible severe Anmesia and are under the Illusion that it's Just A Gift. It's not. You've been Robbed Blind. DIRTY WORK oughtta be Locked Away.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 26, 2016 00:58

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Turner68
Tatoo you is not a real album, it is a compilation, kind of like Metamorphosis

Nope.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 26, 2016 01:02

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matxil
Come on, of course Tattoo You is a real album. Their first albums were made while touring, Exile on Main Street was half recorded in France, half in L.A.

And London, England as well as in Newbury at Stargroves...

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 26, 2016 01:03

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frenki09
Quote
HMS
Nice setlist indeed, I would exclude
.Time Waits For No One
.Too Much Blood
.Heartbreaker
.Angie

and replace them with
.Dirty Work
.Winning Ugly
.Harlem Shuffle
.Hot Stuff

I really believe that the Dirty Work album would have worked live very well. If Emotional Rescue or Anybody Seen My Baby is part of the set list, Winning Ugly could be as well.

I see someone else is drinking the Always Wrong About DIRTY WORK Kool-Aid.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 26, 2016 01:09

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HMS
I am convinced that the entire Dirty Work album would work live very well, not every song equally good of course but at least enjoyable and satisfying when properly rehearsed.

Winning Ugly would be a highlight, just like the title track. Although ER is a well known song, Winning Ugly is the better one. Anybody Seen My Baby is completely meaningless, to play it live is a waste of time.

If they had been able to tour behind Dirty Work, these songs would have developed even further and some of them undoubtfully would be considered classics today.

Fortunately your being convinced means absolutely zero and kudos to the Stones in knowing that what they released is the worst album in the history of recorded rock music and we'll never find out. And making such claims that a piece of shit like Winning Ugly is a better song than Emotional Rescue solidifies that you know nothing about music.

The crowds in South America prove you're wrong - they wouldn't know Winning Ugly at all. Anybody Seen My Baby, clearly a big hit in SA, was completely meaningful and clearly just as relevant as any old song - and the biggest positive of it, it shows that their newer material is just as relevant with crowds like that. Just as Streets Of Love went over big in Europe, even that song is better than anything on DIRTY WORK.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: Brstonesfan ()
Date: February 26, 2016 04:03

None of them were mediocre- GHS, IORR, B&B, SG,ER, TY, are great albums. Dirty Work was average.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: boogaloojef ()
Date: February 26, 2016 05:45

The Allmusic Guide website ranks Black and Blue and Emotional Rescue as the 2 worst Stones studio albums of the 70s. Both are given 3 stars which is about average by their rating system. Dirty Work is also rated as 3 stars.

Goats Head Soup, It's Only Rock 'N' Roll and Undercover are all rated as 3.5 stars.

Personally, I like the Some Girls Deluxe Edition bonus disc better than Emotional Rescue.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-02-26 05:47 by boogaloojef.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: Brstonesfan ()
Date: February 26, 2016 05:52

ER gets a bum wrap..dance, she's so cold, emotional rescue, all about you, let me go, littel indian girl, dance, send it to me, down in the hole, summer romance is a fun song and where the boys a goof..

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: stonesstein ()
Date: February 26, 2016 07:31

This is a great topic! Thanks so much for doing this.

There are some great records in this list.

1. GHS - Starf%cker is among their best tracks, ever, and (to me) the only lemon is Coming Down Again (I know, 20 of y'all will say "I like that song!"). They still play Doo Doo Doo Doo, Angie, and they dusted off Silver Train after 41 years. Following Exile was like following Lou Holtz at Notre Dame.....

2. IORR - an LP with among the best "Hit Singles That Never Were" such as Dance Little Sister, Time Waits for No One, and If You Can't Rock Me. Only one really mistake - If You Really Want to Be My Friend, which, as much as they wanted to pay tribute to the Philly-soul trend of the moment, it is truly among the worst 5 songs of the band's career. (I know, someone here likes it!) IORR is a good, but very mixed, bag, from which one can roll a really good phattie.

3. Black & Blue - really solid but short group of songs. The Stones in transition with a Keef where cool papa is just too prevalent. This is Mick and Charlie's record with guest guitarists and here, as much as ever before, in Keith's absence, the band is forced to experiment with such tracks as Hey Negrita, Hot Stuff, and Melody. Arguably, their cover of Eric Donaldson's Cherry Oh Baby is the only track which is less than up to par. To give you an idea of the band's opinion - note that this, Sticky, and Some Girls are the only LPs of the modern era that they have played all songs.

4. Emotional Rescue - Oh, the blow! Ok, there are some good songs here like Dance and She's So Cold and some good-enough songs like Summer Romance, the title track, and Where the Boys All Go. Then, there are among the band's worst - Indian Girl, All About You, and Down in the Hole (sorry!) All in all, were it not for an even more spotty record to follow (after Tattoo You), this would stand out as the worst of this period.

5. Undercover - WOW! Didn't think it could get worse, did you? So, other than the (fantastic!) title track and that schlock-MOR hit She Was Hot, what else do you listen to very much? Ok, there's one REALLY INCREDIBLE song on this record, and that's among Woody's finest moments - Pretty Beat Up (WOW!). Beyond that, everything else is just that - pretty beat up......

6. Dirty Work - the Stones go "studio tan" with more drugs around that anything else since Black and Blue. Here, though, the "mortality" is evident, because it saddens us all to think that the Stones could not find 1-2 tracks better than Back to Zero and Fight.... Give us Bobby Womack and Strictly Memphis. Don't get me wrong, there are some really good and fun listens here like One Hit, the title track, Too Rude, Winning Ugly, and the LP's hidden gem, Had It With You (so much blow going on, had to avoid using a bassist to enable the middle ear to pick up the treble frequencies.......... This IS a good record!

Kick me like you kicked before
I can't even feel the pain no more

"Rocks Off", Exile on Main Street
Rolling Stones, 1972

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: frenki09 ()
Date: February 26, 2016 13:30

Quote
stonesstein
This is a great topic! Thanks so much for doing this.

There are some great records in this list.

1. GHS - Starf%cker is among their best tracks, ever, and (to me) the only lemon is Coming Down Again (I know, 20 of y'all will say "I like that song!"). They still play Doo Doo Doo Doo, Angie, and they dusted off Silver Train after 41 years. Following Exile was like following Lou Holtz at Notre Dame.....

2. IORR - an LP with among the best "Hit Singles That Never Were" such as Dance Little Sister, Time Waits for No One, and If You Can't Rock Me. Only one really mistake - If You Really Want to Be My Friend, which, as much as they wanted to pay tribute to the Philly-soul trend of the moment, it is truly among the worst 5 songs of the band's career. (I know, someone here likes it!) IORR is a good, but very mixed, bag, from which one can roll a really good phattie.

3. Black & Blue - really solid but short group of songs. The Stones in transition with a Keef where cool papa is just too prevalent. This is Mick and Charlie's record with guest guitarists and here, as much as ever before, in Keith's absence, the band is forced to experiment with such tracks as Hey Negrita, Hot Stuff, and Melody. Arguably, their cover of Eric Donaldson's Cherry Oh Baby is the only track which is less than up to par. To give you an idea of the band's opinion - note that this, Sticky, and Some Girls are the only LPs of the modern era that they have played all songs.

4. Emotional Rescue - Oh, the blow! Ok, there are some good songs here like Dance and She's So Cold and some good-enough songs like Summer Romance, the title track, and Where the Boys All Go. Then, there are among the band's worst - Indian Girl, All About You, and Down in the Hole (sorry!) All in all, were it not for an even more spotty record to follow (after Tattoo You), this would stand out as the worst of this period.

5. Undercover - WOW! Didn't think it could get worse, did you? So, other than the (fantastic!) title track and that schlock-MOR hit She Was Hot, what else do you listen to very much? Ok, there's one REALLY INCREDIBLE song on this record, and that's among Woody's finest moments - Pretty Beat Up (WOW!). Beyond that, everything else is just that - pretty beat up......

6. Dirty Work - the Stones go "studio tan" with more drugs around that anything else since Black and Blue. Here, though, the "mortality" is evident, because it saddens us all to think that the Stones could not find 1-2 tracks better than Back to Zero and Fight.... Give us Bobby Womack and Strictly Memphis. Don't get me wrong, there are some really good and fun listens here like One Hit, the title track, Too Rude, Winning Ugly, and the LP's hidden gem, Had It With You (so much blow going on, had to avoid using a bassist to enable the middle ear to pick up the treble frequencies.......... This IS a good record!

Very nicely put! I enjoyed reading it. If You Really Want To Be My Friend among the 5 worst Stones songs? Hmm... What are the other 4?

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: HMS ()
Date: February 26, 2016 14:28

Again and again and again:
Tattoo You isn´t a genuine Stones-album like Undercover or VL or ABB and on and on. Here are my arguments:

They didnt record one single new song for Tattoo You. It´s all leftovers with a little production make up and overdubbing. They promoted it as a new album of course they didnt want the people to know that they were only recycling old material. The result is a convincing collection of mostly very good songs but it´s a fake-album.

If you call Tattoo You a "new Stones album" you might have to do the same with the bonus CD´s of Some Girls and Exile - old material, some overdubbs and occasianally new volcals. It´s the same recipe.

Tattoo You is a sampler of old and partly not so old material. No "new" Stones album.

So if any bunch of songs is called an "album" then TY is an album, but it is a collection-album not a "new album" with songs especially written for it. It´s like selling a used car and saying hey it´s new because it has new polish and three new tyres. The Stones weren´t honest when announcing and promoting the album. They made us believe it was new but it wasn´t.

There is a huge difference between releasing an album with songs especially written and recorded for it and releasing an album full of unknown leftovers. The Stones provided us with an (almost) excellent collection of songs (call it album if you want to) but they didnt tell the truth about it´s origin. They made us believe it´s all new. They fooled us.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: KeithNacho ()
Date: February 26, 2016 14:44

As you may see there are huge ranking differences. Why???? Because there are no such mediore albums. All are great, all reflex the time they were recorded, all have that magical touch...............i could'nt live withouth any of them
THaNK STONES FOR YOUR MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need a new album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I loved ABB as well

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: stonesstein ()
Date: February 26, 2016 15:27

Quote
frenki09
Quote
stonesstein
This is a great topic! Thanks so much for doing this.

There are some great records in this list.

1. GHS - Starf%cker is among their best tracks, ever, and (to me) the only lemon is Coming Down Again (I know, 20 of y'all will say "I like that song!"). They still play Doo Doo Doo Doo, Angie, and they dusted off Silver Train after 41 years. Following Exile was like following Lou Holtz at Notre Dame.....

2. IORR - an LP with among the best "Hit Singles That Never Were" such as Dance Little Sister, Time Waits for No One, and If You Can't Rock Me. Only one really mistake - If You Really Want to Be My Friend, which, as much as they wanted to pay tribute to the Philly-soul trend of the moment, it is truly among the worst 5 songs of the band's career. (I know, someone here likes it!) IORR is a good, but very mixed, bag, from which one can roll a really good phattie.

3. Black & Blue - really solid but short group of songs. The Stones in transition with a Keef where cool papa is just too prevalent. This is Mick and Charlie's record with guest guitarists and here, as much as ever before, in Keith's absence, the band is forced to experiment with such tracks as Hey Negrita, Hot Stuff, and Melody. Arguably, their cover of Eric Donaldson's Cherry Oh Baby is the only track which is less than up to par. To give you an idea of the band's opinion - note that this, Sticky, and Some Girls are the only LPs of the modern era that they have played all songs.

4. Emotional Rescue - Oh, the blow! Ok, there are some good songs here like Dance and She's So Cold and some good-enough songs like Summer Romance, the title track, and Where the Boys All Go. Then, there are among the band's worst - Indian Girl, All About You, and Down in the Hole (sorry!) All in all, were it not for an even more spotty record to follow (after Tattoo You), this would stand out as the worst of this period.

5. Undercover - WOW! Didn't think it could get worse, did you? So, other than the (fantastic!) title track and that schlock-MOR hit She Was Hot, what else do you listen to very much? Ok, there's one REALLY INCREDIBLE song on this record, and that's among Woody's finest moments - Pretty Beat Up (WOW!). Beyond that, everything else is just that - pretty beat up......

6. Dirty Work - the Stones go "studio tan" with more drugs around that anything else since Black and Blue. Here, though, the "mortality" is evident, because it saddens us all to think that the Stones could not find 1-2 tracks better than Back to Zero and Fight.... Give us Bobby Womack and Strictly Memphis. Don't get me wrong, there are some really good and fun listens here like One Hit, the title track, Too Rude, Winning Ugly, and the LP's hidden gem, Had It With You (so much blow going on, had to avoid using a bassist to enable the middle ear to pick up the treble frequencies.......... This IS a good record!

Very nicely put! I enjoyed reading it. If You Really Want To Be My Friend among the 5 worst Stones songs? Hmm... What are the other 4?

I think this might be in another thread, but for me, Anyway You Look At It, Indian Girl, Back to Zero, Gunface, Blinded by Love (or all Steel Wheels save 2-3 trax) are horrible cysts on the catalog......

Kick me like you kicked before
I can't even feel the pain no more

"Rocks Off", Exile on Main Street
Rolling Stones, 1972

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: buttons67 ()
Date: February 26, 2016 18:26

the only mediocre albums between 1973 and 1986 are dirtywork and emotional rescue.

in those years, 82 songs were released and about 70% of those are better than good.

how many other bands can achieve so much between 11 years and 24 years after they formed, considering what they had already previously.

best 3 songs on each of those albums in my opinion would be.

goats head soup. star star, heartbreaker, silver train

its only rock and roll. if you cant rock me, time waits for no one, fingerprint file.

black and blue. crazy mama, memory motel, hand of fate.

some girls. shattered, respectable, far away eyes.

tatoo you. slave, little t and a, worried about you.

undercover. she was hot, undercover, too tough.

Re: Ranking The Mediocore Albums 1973 - 1986
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 26, 2016 18:56

Quote
stonesstein
If You Really Want to Be My Friend... is truly among the worst 5 songs of the band's career.

I've read garbage before and that statement fits. Yet you somehow say DIRTY WORK is "a good record" and then say "there are some really good and fun listens here like One Hit, the title track, Too Rude, Winning Ugly" as if those are good songs.

Have you ever listened to If You Really Want To Be My Friend? Because it's not just what you described, it's the kind of song that scares casual Stones fans because it doesn't "sound like the Stones".

It's a genius track and one of their musically superior tunes.

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