I hate the word 'filler' give me filler in my face that I can't afford,
Vent Blues may be filler for my soul backed up against the wall, pist off pushing thru obstacles and craziness all around. I'm familiar.
Can't add to the rich comments made here already,
this songs a '10' for me, and it rolling into 'I Just Want To See His Face'
sublime genius.

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Ventilator Blues careens along in a totally different sense of time
than any other Stones cut. For that reason alone, it is brilliant.

That's what I wanted to say!
Thanks & praises, Bobby - love & light and thanks & praises

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I hate the word 'filler' give me filler in my face that I can't afford,
Vent Blues may be filler for my soul backed up against the wall, pist off pushing thru obstacles and craziness all around. I'm familiar.
Can't add to the rich comments made here already,
this songs a '10' for me, and it rolling into 'I Just Want To See His Face'
sublime genius.

That's the clincher for me too...I dare anyone to come up with two Stones songs more perfectly paired. Maybe a subject for another thread?

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It was a stand out track back when I first put on this album as a 12 year old in 1983. This one and Rocks Off.

It sounded so dark, almost scary a dangerous. When the horns kicked in it really took me places.

An absolutely magnificent album track!

Once again, i fully Agree Dandelion. When the stones will give a gig in holland, this or next year, i will buy you some drinks.
Jeroen

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DandelionPowderman
It was a stand out track back when I first put on this album as a 12 year old in 1983. This one and Rocks Off.

It sounded so dark, almost scary a dangerous. When the horns kicked in it really took me places.

An absolutely magnificent album track!

Once again, i fully Agree Dandelion. When the stones will give a gig in holland, this or next year, i will buy you some drinks.
Jeroen

And I will happily accept, and return the gesture

This song always kind of bored me.
It is less enjoyable than, say, Mixed Emotions, Dont Stop, Keys To Your Love, Highwire, Had It With You and oh so many others. Songs like VB prevent Exile from being a real masterpiece. VB is subpar. On most Stones-albums VB would be the less satisfying song. Not on Exile, since on Exile you can find even more hard to listen to so-so´s, fillers and superfluous tracks. How I wish they´d had released Exile as a single album.

Always sounded like a John Lennon solo style leftover that he would have never released.
Like a poor man's slow and sloppy version of 'Cold Turkey'.

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This song always kind of bored me.
It is less enjoyable than, say, Mixed Emotions, Dont Stop, Keys To Your Love, Highwire, Had It With You and oh so many others. Songs like VB prevent Exile from being a real masterpiece. VB is subpar. On most Stones-albums VB would be the less satisfying song. Not on Exile, since on Exile you can find even more hard to listen to so-so´s, fillers and superfluous tracks. How I wish they´d had released Exile as a single album.

Maybe you should listen to the Beatles more often.

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HMS
This song always kind of bored me.
It is less enjoyable than, say, Mixed Emotions, Dont Stop, Keys To Your Love, Highwire, Had It With You and oh so many others. Songs like VB prevent Exile from being a real masterpiece. VB is subpar. On most Stones-albums VB would be the less satisfying song. Not on Exile, since on Exile you can find even more hard to listen to so-so´s, fillers and superfluous tracks. How I wish they´d had released Exile as a single album.

I hope Turner68 is not having any breakfast when he reads this one.

Ventilator is one of the scenes on Exile that explains the origin of this film noir. You can't exclude Cry Baby Cry, Take me back, Long Long Long or anything else for that matter from the White Album.

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HMS
This song always kind of bored me.
It is less enjoyable than, say, Mixed Emotions, Dont Stop, Keys To Your Love, Highwire, Had It With You and oh so many others. Songs like VB prevent Exile from being a real masterpiece. VB is subpar. On most Stones-albums VB would be the less satisfying song. Not on Exile, since on Exile you can find even more hard to listen to so-so´s, fillers and superfluous tracks. How I wish they´d had released Exile as a single album.

Seriously???!!!

Ok, to each their own!

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HMS
This song always kind of bored me.
It is less enjoyable than, say, Mixed Emotions, Dont Stop, Keys To Your Love, Highwire, Had It With You and oh so many others. Songs like VB prevent Exile from being a real masterpiece. VB is subpar. On most Stones-albums VB would be the less satisfying song. Not on Exile, since on Exile you can find even more hard to listen to so-so´s, fillers and superfluous tracks. How I wish they´d had released Exile as a single album.

Seriously???!!!

Ok, to each their own!

Dont take HMS too seriously. Its the wrong time of the month and HMS has The Period of the month.
Jeroen

Brilliant performance of an average song that fits perfectly on the album. What the stones do best, lemonade from lemons.

Love this, and I agree with some of the other observations, probably couldn't pull it off near as nice live.

It's probably been previously discussed, but is everything ok with Rene? Noticed he hasn't posted in 6 months, I hope all is alright.

Thanks NICOS for carrying the torch.

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treaclefingers
Brilliant performance of an average song that fits perfectly on the album. What the stones do best, lemonade from lemons.

Love this, and I agree with some of the other observations, probably couldn't pull it off near as nice live.

Noooooo! Listen to the rehearsals of this song and I'm positive you'll agree with me that that Ventilator could've surpassed even Midnight Rambler as the best live warhorse. Many people dismiss this song as 'average' or 'filler' and not without reason - the album version is jerky & robotic. But the rehearsals prove that the Stones committed an enormous goof by not re-working it. It could've been one of their iconic tunes.

I love the riff from Ventilator Blues. The song has a great rhythm to it



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It's a beast of a track--so much sweat and tension.

And Nicky Hopkins plays like a madman...

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...It could've been one of their iconic tunes.

it IS one of their iconic tunes, as is!

I think it's still a great track to perform live....a bit practicing for the right beat and an other warhorse is born.............

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Rev. Robert W.
It's a beast of a track--so much sweat and tension.

And Nicky Hopkins plays like a madman...

Yep! You said it.
Its building like crazy though what must have been the hazy summer madness.
I`ve loved it for soooo many years but it still reveals itself to me.
Such a marvellous, marvellous piece of emotionally driven, authentic music.

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Rev. Robert W.
It's a beast of a track--so much sweat and tension.

And Nicky Hopkins plays like a madman...

Yep! You said it.
Its building like crazy though what must have been the hazy summer madness.
I`ve loved it for soooo many years but it still reveals itself to me.
Such a marvellous, marvellous piece of emotionally driven, authentic music.

True. Same here. For example, it's only thanks to reading the messages on this forum that I started to pay attention to the drums. I'm sure subconsciously the rhythm of the track always had to do with my love for this song, but when I focussed on the drums, it just added another layer to my appreciation. Maybe part of the magic of EOMS, in general, is the amount of layers to each song. (Although I don't think its magic can ever be completely explained.)

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Maybe part of the magic of EOMS, in general, is the amount of layers to each song. (Although I don't think its magic can ever be completely explained.)

Oh yes! Took me until last winter (28 years) to hear the wonderful track entering on 0:46, slidework that shadows Keiths main riff thoughout in a "straighter way", fattening Keiths track, adding a flare here and there. Think it is a Taylor addition. Feather in the hat.

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treaclefingers
Brilliant performance of an average song that fits perfectly on the album. What the stones do best, lemonade from lemons.

Love this, and I agree with some of the other observations, probably couldn't pull it off near as nice live.

Noooooo! Listen to the rehearsals of this song and I'm positive you'll agree with me that that Ventilator could've surpassed even Midnight Rambler as the best live warhorse. Many people dismiss this song as 'average' or 'filler' and not without reason - the album version is jerky & robotic. But the rehearsals prove that the Stones committed an enormous goof by not re-working it. It could've been one of their iconic tunes.

ok settle down...they can't even play a far better track from the same album, Rocks Off, live very well.

no, what they do magnificently is squeeze the most out of otherwise average songs and make them great on record. Theoretically this should work live as well, but for whatever reason lots of songs can't cross the rubicon.

Take She's So Cold...I love that tune. But no one else could make that sound as magical, because it simply isn't that good of a song. But the recorded performance on vinyl is transcendent.

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treaclefingers
Brilliant performance of an average song that fits perfectly on the album. What the stones do best, lemonade from lemons.

Love this, and I agree with some of the other observations, probably couldn't pull it off near as nice live.

Noooooo! Listen to the rehearsals of this song and I'm positive you'll agree with me that that Ventilator could've surpassed even Midnight Rambler as the best live warhorse. Many people dismiss this song as 'average' or 'filler' and not without reason - the album version is jerky & robotic. But the rehearsals prove that the Stones committed an enormous goof by not re-working it. It could've been one of their iconic tunes.

I"m not sure what you mean by robotic, but for me the "jerkiness" is part of what makes the song great.

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treaclefingers
Brilliant performance of an average song that fits perfectly on the album. What the stones do best, lemonade from lemons.

Love this, and I agree with some of the other observations, probably couldn't pull it off near as nice live.

It's probably been previously discussed, but is everything ok with Rene? Noticed he hasn't posted in 6 months, I hope all is alright.

Thanks NICOS for carrying the torch.

Agree! Average song on its own but is like a jigsaw piece on the Exile album.

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HMS
This song always kind of bored me.
It is less enjoyable than, say, Mixed Emotions, Dont Stop, Keys To Your Love, Highwire, Had It With You and oh so many others. Songs like VB prevent Exile from being a real masterpiece. VB is subpar. On most Stones-albums VB would be the less satisfying song. Not on Exile, since on Exile you can find even more hard to listen to so-so´s, fillers and superfluous tracks. How I wish they´d had released Exile as a single album.

I almost choked on a slice of cold Italian pizza when I read this

I just saw an interesting comment by Jimmy Miller's daughter Deena on YouTube and she said VB was her fathers favorite track off of Exile and one of his favorite tracks he worked on during his time with the Stones.



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Played on stage in Vancouver 1972.
After that heard in a couple of rehearsals (Toronto 1994, Amsterdam 1999, London 2012)
but never done in concert by the Stones.
One of those songs that have an atmosphere on the album that can never be replicated
on stage, I guess.

I guess they don't play it not because it "can never be replicated on stage'. They don't play it because they are a Greatest Hits-Las Vegas-act. Most people in the audience are far away from being real Stones- let alone Bluesrock-Fans. They want the Party bullshit (SFTD, HTW, MY, IORR etc.), not obscure slow Blues numbers. Unfortunately.