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1962
Ya-Ya's is great but not their best,
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And nothing tops Ya-Ya's of course!
zzzzzzzzz! Yes Ya-Ya's is a very good album but it's not THAT fantastic.
By the way.....Good Review over at pitchfork
[pitchfork.com]
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1962
Ya-Ya's is great but not their best,
Shine A Light is better than that... GYYO=most overrated live-album, EOMS=most overrated studio-album...
If we had a complete Roundhouse gig, then that would be their ultimate live album. What a pity that they gave us only a couple of tracks on BS-Deluxe.
Maybe someday they´ll release the entire gig, it would be very much appreciated.
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HMS
Leeds is indeed better than GYYO and so is Brussel and LA Forum and Shine A Light.
GYYO is good but not supreme and almost everything on it is faked, so forget about GYYO. Meanwhile there are much better live documents available. Most of them are not faked.
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LieB
A complete Roundhouse would be awesome but I wonder why they didn't release the whole show immediately. Perhaps the tape was wonky in some places, or Mick didn't think some songs hold up (which wouldn't really make sense, since they've released quite a few messy or lame renditions lately (the whole LA 75 dvd, for instance).
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1962
Ya-Ya's is great but not their best,
Shine A Light is better than that... GYYO=most overrated live-album, EOMS=most overrated studio-album...
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HMS
A "live" album like GYYO on which even the singer´s vocals are overdubbed (not to mention the guitar parts), cannot considered "one of the greatest live albums ever". It is a fake.
I dont know if Shine A Light is overdubbed and to which extent, but even if it is, it is still better by far than GYYO. It is more authentical and honest. The playing is better, the singing is better, the tempos of the songs are better, the setlist is better and even Charlie is better although Charlie is the best you can say about GYYO.
EOMS is partly pure greatness, partly average-subpar. All of the truly great Stones-albums were realized before Exile.
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LieB
A complete Roundhouse would be awesome but I wonder why they didn't release the whole show immediately. Perhaps the tape was wonky in some places, or Mick didn't think some songs hold up (which wouldn't really make sense, since they've released quite a few messy or lame renditions lately (the whole LA 75 dvd, for instance).
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LieB
A complete Roundhouse would be awesome but I wonder why they didn't release the whole show immediately. Perhaps the tape was wonky in some places, or Mick didn't think some songs hold up (which wouldn't really make sense, since they've released quite a few messy or lame renditions lately (the whole LA 75 dvd, for instance).
I think the case is that they want all the known bootlegs in soundboard quality to be released before they give us something new.
It's no coincidence that they gave us LA75, Hampton, Tokyo instead of releasing something new.
They want to clear the market from unofficial pro-shots and make them unprofitable. Logically this means Double Door '97, Soldier Field '97, Tokyo '95 will be released officially.
Roundhouse was just a teaser, the time will come when they've nothing but unheard soundboards to release and then the full Roundhouse shows will probably show up.
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1962
Ya-Ya's is great but not their best,
Shine A Light is better than that... GYYO=most overrated live-album, EOMS=most overrated studio-album...
If we had a complete Roundhouse gig, then that would be their ultimate live album. What a pity that they gave us only a couple of tracks on BS-Deluxe.
Maybe someday they´ll release the entire gig, it would be very much appreciated.
You think Shine A Light is better than Ya-Ya's ( ) but still think a complete Roundhouse would be the best of all.
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HMS
A "live" album like GYYO on which even the singer´s vocals are overdubbed (not to mention the guitar parts), cannot considered "one of the greatest live albums ever". It is a fake.
I dont know if Shine A Light is overdubbed and to which extent, but even if it is, it is still better by far than GYYO. It is more authentical and honest. The playing is better, the singing is better, the tempos of the songs are better, the setlist is better and even Charlie is better although Charlie is the best you can say about GYYO.
EOMS is partly pure greatness, partly average-subpar. All of the truly great Stones-albums were realized before Exile.
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DandelionPowderman
BS Deluxe?
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shawnriffhard1Except that there aren't many overdubs on GYYO. Six vocals and one or two possible guitar overdubs. Only one overdub was actually different to the live performance and that's JJFlash because they wanted the phrasing to match what everyone was familiar with as opposed to the drawn out version from the tour.Quote
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Well Ya Ya's is perfect due to the many overdubs.
GYYYO overdubs:
1. Jumpin' Jack Flash: vocal overdubbed.
2. Carol: vocals overdubbed no guitar dubs micks playing obvious in turnarounds
3. Stray Cat Blues: vocals overdubbed.
4. Love In Vain: no overdubs.
5. Midnight Rambler: no overdubs.
6. Sympathy For The Devil: vocals overdubbed , one verse and chorus edited out
7. Live With Me: vocals overdubbed.
8. Little Queenie: vocals overdubbed.Mick Taylor's guitar piece is overdubbed (by KEITH!).
9. Honky Tonk Women: vocals overdubbed.
10. Street Fighting Man: vocals overdubbed.
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Phil Good
Alas, I live in Germany and that means that I can't hear it as well as we can't hear or see here so many other vids.
It's all blocked here by GEMA. It's a real shame.
Well, I don't want to say more about these people.
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1962
Ya-Ya's is great but not their best,
Shine A Light is better than that... GYYO=most overrated live-album, EOMS=most overrated studio-album...
SHINE A LIGHT - One giant shiny turd
GYYYO - Historically, critically and fan wise one of the greatest live albums ever
EOMS - Historically, critically and fan wise one of the greatest studio albums ever and one of the Stones' best albums.
But by all means continue to ignore facts and spew forth such atrocious fiction.
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LieB
A complete Roundhouse would be awesome but I wonder why they didn't release the whole show immediately. Perhaps the tape was wonky in some places, or Mick didn't think some songs hold up (which wouldn't really make sense, since they've released quite a few messy or lame renditions lately (the whole LA 75 dvd, for instance).
I think the case is that they want all the known bootlegs in soundboard quality to be released before they give us something new.
It's no coincidence that they gave us LA75, Hampton, Tokyo instead of releasing something new.
They want to clear the market from unofficial pro-shots and make them unprofitable. Logically this means Double Door '97, Soldier Field '97, Tokyo '95 will be released officially.
Roundhouse was just a teaser, the time will come when they've nothing but unheard soundboards to release and then the full Roundhouse shows will probably show up.
They started out with the (for us) new Brussels show, though.
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DandelionPowderman
They should have the radio broadcasts from some 1965-1967 shows, though...
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DandelionPowderman
They should have the radio broadcasts from some 1965-1967 shows, though...
They probably don't own those radio broadcasts though.
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GasLightStreet
SHINE A LIGHT - One giant shiny turd
GYYYO - Historically, critically and fan wise one of the greatest live albums ever
EOMS - Historically, critically and fan wise one of the greatest studio albums ever and one of the Stones' best albums.
But by all means continue to ignore facts and spew forth such atrocious fiction.