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that guitar might not be completely in tune...;-)

derty!

Keith..the original punk!

I seriously can't think of another guitarplayer that cuts through the bone like this, and I've heard 'em all

someone's gotta be the king right?

Terrible and awesome at the same time. Cool.

That was terrific. Thanks.

Some of the most vital guitar playing on a Stones track ever



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Great, thanks for sharing!

Good grief, what an obnoxious punch in when he starts those lead lines! And then at the end! That's awesome.

No end lick! Why did they fade it out!! DAMMIT!

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That is dirty....love it.....b.t.w. I did known this one is available as a multi track recording

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I hear a lot of VU White Light/White Heat guitar licks all over this...I think I read somewhere thats what the Stones were going for...especially the opening note (Heroin)

Great rhythm! Ouch that lead....

video: [www.youtube.com] Johnny Winter's version is as good or better than the Stones



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wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

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video: [www.youtube.com] Johnny Winter's version is as good or better than the Stones

wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

I would say that Mick's voice is better but, Johnny's lead work is better so maybe a wash. Not one of either artist better songs though.



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video: [www.youtube.com] Johnny Winter's version is as good or better than the Stones

wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

I would say that Mick's voice is better but, Johnny's lead work is better so maybe a wash. Not one of either artist better songs though.

I love Johnny Winter, but have to say this cover is way inferior to the Stones version.
While the lead guitars are blazing indeed, it's all a big muddy mish mash - bad production could be partially the blame.

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wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

+1 (like most cover versions of Stones tunes do)

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Great rhythm! Ouch that GREAT lead....

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video: [www.youtube.com] Johnny Winter's version is as good or better than the Stones

wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

I would say that Mick's voice is better but, Johnny's lead work is better so maybe a wash. Not one of either artist better songs though.

What does ANY lead work have to do with the atmosphere and danger the Stones create here? I'd go out on a limb and say that what we consider brilliant lead work in general will destroy this tune

And now over to Bill on bass.

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Wish there were isolated tracks for guitars on Midnight Rambler.

Open D. Awesome. Hopkins' piano licks, Bill bass, Charlies drums and Mick's vocals.
Top Rolling Stones experience!

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Think this cover isn't bad either..................

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video: [www.youtube.com] Johnny Winter's version is as good or better than the Stones

wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

I would say that Mick's voice is better but, Johnny's lead work is better so maybe a wash. Not one of either artist better songs though.

What does ANY lead work have to do with the atmosphere and danger the Stones create here? I'd go out on a limb and say that what we consider brilliant lead work in general will destroy this tune

Yes.

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video: [www.youtube.com] Johnny Winter's version is as good or better than the Stones

wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

I would say that Mick's voice is better but, Johnny's lead work is better so maybe a wash. Not one of either artist better songs though.

What does ANY lead work have to do with the atmosphere and danger the Stones create here? I'd go out on a limb and say that what we consider brilliant lead work in general will destroy this tune

Yes.

I doubt brilliant lead work could destroy this tune. I think Johnny Winter proves that quite well. It just takes the song to a different place. I like the Stones version better, it obviously doesn't rely of brilliant lead work, but I have no doubt if Mick Taylor was ripping some brilliant lead on it it would have still been great, possibly even better.

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video: [www.youtube.com] Johnny Winter's version is as good or better than the Stones

wow. it completely lacks the heart and soul of the stones version IMO. sounds very sterile.

I would say that Mick's voice is better but, Johnny's lead work is better so maybe a wash. Not one of either artist better songs though.

What does ANY lead work have to do with the atmosphere and danger the Stones create here? I'd go out on a limb and say that what we consider brilliant lead work in general will destroy this tune

Yes.

I doubt brilliant lead work could destroy this tune. I think Johnny Winter proves that quite well. It just takes the song to a different place. I like the Stones version better, it obviously doesn't rely of brilliant lead work, but I have no doubt if Mick Taylor was ripping some brilliant lead on it it would have still been great, possibly even better.

As the old saying goes, sometimes less is more.

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As the old saying goes, sometimes less is more.

yeah yeah sometimes is the key word there. If Taylor had played on that tune it probably would have been a warhorse by now.

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As the old saying goes, sometimes less is more.

yeah yeah sometimes is the key word there. If Taylor had played on that tune it probably would have been a warhorse by now.

OK try this then:

As the old saying goes, less is more.

And as you know, Taylor played on it many times live. Some of those versions are better than others, but the tune always takes on a different vibe because of him. None of them however match the straightforward studio version imo, and I say this as someone who loves Mick Taylor. Some tunes are best simply left in their original form without adding too much 'icing' shall we say. Just my personal preference as I'm sure there are others who like the live versions better - maybe you do?

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As the old saying goes, sometimes less is more.

yeah yeah sometimes is the key word there. If Taylor had played on that tune it probably would have been a warhorse by now.

OK try this then:

As the old saying goes, less is more.

And as you know, Taylor played on it many times live. Some of those versions are better than others, but the tune always takes on a different vibe because of him. None of them however match the straightforward studio version imo, and I say this as someone who loves Mick Taylor. Some tunes are best simply left in their original form without adding too much 'icing' shall we say. Just my personal preference as I'm sure there are others who like the live versions better - maybe you do?

Actually there are very few Stones songs I like live better than the studio versions, I admit I like the studio version of this one best although I also love Taylors playing on some of the live versions. Like most Stones songs for me there is a disconnect between the live and studio stuff, they were just so damn good in the studio, especially during their golden period. If you took Taylor's playing off those live versions it still wouldn't resemble what they had captured in the studio. So I guess my point is that if Taylor played on the studio original it might even have been better. I could hear him overdubbing on the released version now actually and like what I imagine.

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As the old saying goes, sometimes less is more.

yeah yeah sometimes is the key word there. If Taylor had played on that tune it probably would have been a warhorse by now.

OK try this then:

As the old saying goes, less is more.

And as you know, Taylor played on it many times live. Some of those versions are better than others, but the tune always takes on a different vibe because of him. None of them however match the straightforward studio version imo, and I say this as someone who loves Mick Taylor. Some tunes are best simply left in their original form without adding too much 'icing' shall we say. Just my personal preference as I'm sure there are others who like the live versions better - maybe you do?

Actually there are very few Stones songs I like live better than the studio versions, I admit I like the studio version of this one best although I also love Taylors playing on some of the live versions. Like most Stones songs for me there is a disconnect between the live and studio stuff, they were just so damn good in the studio, especially during their golden period. If you took Taylor's playing off those live versions it still wouldn't resemble what they had captured in the studio. So I guess my point is that if Taylor played on the studio original it might even have been better. I could hear him overdubbing on the released version now actually and like what I imagine.

Haha no no...I imagine it would result in 'Plundered my Stray Cat'.

Except for Midnight Rambler*, there aren't any live versions of Stones songs that I like better than studio versions that I can think of right now.
I obviously love them live, but there's something sacred about all those studio recordings.

"I like the MR studio version alot also, but it seems to find a new life when played live as if it was written to be played LIVE.

I have a fond memory from the free NRDC show at Staples Center Feb. 6, '03 during the Licks tour. I was right against the B-stage when they unleashed into Midnight Rambler - I pretty much reverted back to a teenager not believing my eyes what I was witnessing, having flashbacks of listening to it endlessly when I was a kid. Granted, the playing itself didn't quite match their glory years, but to watch Mick spaz out, and Keith, Ronnie, and Charlie switching gears, blasting into overdrive, slowing it down, and kicking it up a notch again...it ranks up their with my favorite Stones memories of all time. Somewhere I have crappy little pics taken with a disposable camera I had with me - memories for a lifetime!

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