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*everywhere you look, if you look, you will find what I pasted the only and exact information on times and dates.
Another link to same info.
[www.timeisonourside.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-04 16:08 by 35love.
It's McPherson who says parts were recorded at Nellcote, not the Stones, though.
I know that McPherson's and other sites are saying it was recorded at Nellcote.
However, I wondered if you had some sources from the band saying that it was recorded there?
Remember that for years many thought that Exile was recorded at Nellcote, but later we learned that only 8 song were recorded there.
It's natural to think that Exile era songs were recorded at Nellcote, but the likeliness of that being true isn't as high as we thought earlier.
That's not what was said. What was said was he had NO IDEA about Mick Taylor recording on Plundered even after it was finished. I pasted that quote a page or few back.
At first blush I didn't mind Mixed Emotions, but upon repeat listens it just sounds very 'generic stones', which they took even further with "Don't Stop" which I find pretty unlistenable. The sound of the stones trying to find the magic sound that made them special. It has no soul.
The closest groove to TD is PMS. How you hear that in Mixed Emotions is the mystery of the century.
The main backing for Let It loose was recorded at Olympic Studios, possibly even dates to 1969.
yes.
although, mixed emotions is classic stones-by-numbers. the fact that it recalls past stones songs is not an accident. it's designed to do that.
when it was released "tumbling dice" did not recall any past stones songs. big difference.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-05 00:02 by Turner68.
no, it's just all as awful as what you heard.
The liner notes say the same thing. What's the point? It's a leftover from the France EXILE sessions. Nothing subversive about it. There's no controversy other than what a couple of people piping that it may be from the EOMS sessions, which is absolutely ridiculous.
I'm Not Signifying, Plundered and Pass The Wine are not miserable failures, they're brilliant successes.
The rest of it is not Was' fault.
- Let It Loose II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano and mellotron;
backing track
suggests it was recorded again, and that this recording was used for EOMS.
UK mix is fantastic.
Like the leslie guitar, bass and drums that is from the recording at Olympic Studios 1969/1970. The backing vocals were recorded in LA.
Some form of Jaggers vocal was recorded at Olympic Studios as well, we hear it leak on the bootleg backing track, but he may have re done them in LA.
So a track which features recordings from before and after, but, unless the horns were recorded there, most likely not during their time in France.
The main backing might even have been recorded before Taylor joined the stones in 1969.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-05 05:52 by His Majesty.
Have to agree with you there HM. Let it Loose is one of those few elusive tracks on Exile thats kind of hard to pinpoint. Have always been very suspicious of the backing track being that old, but it might be true. No one I have asked about this track have been able to nail the proceedings. When I realized they had a Vibratone down in the Nellcote basement I throught they could have done it there, but it doesnt have that Nellcote tone. The horns could very well have been recorded on the Riviera, but LiL have never been mentioned being brought down among the Bermundsey tracks, I even asked Churchill about him bringing this track spesificly, but no verification. The other ones, yes, but he did not remember this.
Sorry to hi-jack the Plundered thread, a track I love by the way. But then Im among those few who find every tone recorded at Nellcote very interesting.
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Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: September 4, 2015 14:24
Looping the entire band (Charlie, Bill and Keith) and copying a solo-theme (like on I Don't Know Why) are two different things.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: September 4, 2015 16:07
Quote
His MajestyQuote
35love
RECORDED: July and October–November 1971, Villa Nellcôte, Villefranche- sur- Mer, France (Keith Richards’ rented house) Autumn 2009, Henson Recording Studios, The Village, Mix This! (All in Los Angeles); One East Studio, New York City; Unidentified studio in London
When and where did they state it was recorded in France?
*everywhere you look, if you look, you will find what I pasted the only and exact information on times and dates.
Another link to same info.
[www.timeisonourside.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-04 16:08 by 35love.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 4, 2015 16:13
Quote
35loveQuote
His MajestyQuote
35love
RECORDED: July and October–November 1971, Villa Nellcôte, Villefranche- sur- Mer, France (Keith Richards’ rented house) Autumn 2009, Henson Recording Studios, The Village, Mix This! (All in Los Angeles); One East Studio, New York City; Unidentified studio in London
When and where did they state it was recorded in France?
*everywhere you look, if you look, you will find what I pasted the only and exact information on times and dates.
Another link to same info.
[www.timeisonourside.com]
It's McPherson who says parts were recorded at Nellcote, not the Stones, though.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: September 4, 2015 16:21
Well now we are just getting silly.
'July and October-November 1971'
are obviously Nellcote!
If in doubt,
Bobby Keys, Nicky Hopkins, Charlie Watt, and Bill Wyman spewing out the spiritual sunlight music from the villa can clue us in.
It is 100% from Nellcote. Not 100% of the track itself, but the meat music of those players. Hence, the stir on this tune.
'July and October-November 1971'
are obviously Nellcote!
If in doubt,
Bobby Keys, Nicky Hopkins, Charlie Watt, and Bill Wyman spewing out the spiritual sunlight music from the villa can clue us in.
It is 100% from Nellcote. Not 100% of the track itself, but the meat music of those players. Hence, the stir on this tune.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 4, 2015 16:30
Quote
35love
Well now we are just getting silly.
'July and October-November 1971'
are obviously Nellcote!
If in doubt,
Bobby Keys, Nicky Hopkins, Charlie Watt, and Bill Wyman spewing out the spiritual sunlight music from the villa can clue us in.
It is 100% from Nellcote. Not 100% of the track itself, but the meat music of those players. Hence, the stir on this tune.
I know that McPherson's and other sites are saying it was recorded at Nellcote.
However, I wondered if you had some sources from the band saying that it was recorded there?
Remember that for years many thought that Exile was recorded at Nellcote, but later we learned that only 8 song were recorded there.
It's natural to think that Exile era songs were recorded at Nellcote, but the likeliness of that being true isn't as high as we thought earlier.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: September 4, 2015 16:48
Mick whispered it in my ear last night.
In my dreams I have sources from the band.
I've scoured the Internet, bought a whole book just for more 'Plundered' info (book was worth it) and even waded thru the ghastly miles long threads from this place written 5 years ago when 'Plundered' came out.
I got what you got for info.
In my dreams I have sources from the band.
I've scoured the Internet, bought a whole book just for more 'Plundered' info (book was worth it) and even waded thru the ghastly miles long threads from this place written 5 years ago when 'Plundered' came out.
I got what you got for info.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 4, 2015 16:50
Quote
35love
Mick whispered it in my ear last night.
In my dreams I have sources from the band.
I've scoured the Internet, bought a whole book just for more 'Plundered' info (book was worth it) and even waded thru the ghastly miles long threads from this place written 5 years ago when 'Plundered' came out.
I got what you got for info.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 4, 2015 17:59
710710A 10th July - late July and 14th October - 23rd November: Villefranche-sur-mer,
France, Villa Nellcote, basement of KR's house, Rolling Stones Mobile Studio.
Producer: Jimmy Miller. Sound engineers: Glyn Johns and Andy Johns. Incl.
- All Down The Line IV (MJ/KR) -Jimmy Miller on percussion, Nicky Hopkins
on piano, Bobby Keyson sax, Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; instrumental
backing track
- Casino Boogie (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on
sax; Exile On Main St.-version
- Following The River I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; unverified
instrumental; date unsure
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Jimmy Miller on drums, Bobby Keys on sax and percussion,
Nicky Hopkins on piano, Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main
St.-version
- I'm Not Signifying I (MJ/KR) -early version without brass
- I'm Not Signifying II (MJ/KR) -early version, with less vocals and horns at end
- Instrumental (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Let It Loose II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano and mellotron;
backing track
- Loving Cup II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; alternate early version, ending
with three "alright"-screams; Crossfire Hurricane-version
- Loving Cup III (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; first part identical to version I,
spliced together with a new second part (starting at 2.12); date unsure; Exile
On Main St.-2010-remaster-version
- Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys
on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy Miller on percussion; instrumental
- Plundered My Soul I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax;
unverified instrumental; date unsure
- Rip This Joint I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version with KR on vocals
- Rip This Joint II (MJ/KR) -instrumental backing track
- Rocks Off I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax, Jim
Price on trumpet and/or trombone; instrumental backing track
- Rocks Off II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax, Jim
Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main St.-version
- Soul Survivor I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax, Jim
Price on trumpet; early version with KR on lead vocals; Exile On Main St.-
2010-remaster-version
- Soul Survivor II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax,
Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; instrumental backing track
- Soul Survivor III (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax,
Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main St.-version
- Ventilator Blues I (MJ/KR/MT) -instrumental rehearsal; Crossfire Hurricane-version
- Ventilator Blues II (MJ/KR/MT) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax,
Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main St.-version
+ more
Additional musicians: Nicky Hopkins, Jimmy Miller, Bobby Keys and Jim Price.
Note: In July they recorded about 20 new tracks. No mixing or overdubbing
was done until the 30th November.
The vocal parts for most of the tracks were recorded in Los Angeles.
France, Villa Nellcote, basement of KR's house, Rolling Stones Mobile Studio.
Producer: Jimmy Miller. Sound engineers: Glyn Johns and Andy Johns. Incl.
- All Down The Line IV (MJ/KR) -Jimmy Miller on percussion, Nicky Hopkins
on piano, Bobby Keyson sax, Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; instrumental
backing track
- Casino Boogie (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on
sax; Exile On Main St.-version
- Following The River I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; unverified
instrumental; date unsure
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Jimmy Miller on drums, Bobby Keys on sax and percussion,
Nicky Hopkins on piano, Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main
St.-version
- I'm Not Signifying I (MJ/KR) -early version without brass
- I'm Not Signifying II (MJ/KR) -early version, with less vocals and horns at end
- Instrumental (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Let It Loose II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano and mellotron;
backing track
- Loving Cup II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; alternate early version, ending
with three "alright"-screams; Crossfire Hurricane-version
- Loving Cup III (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; first part identical to version I,
spliced together with a new second part (starting at 2.12); date unsure; Exile
On Main St.-2010-remaster-version
- Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren) I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys
on sax, Jim Price on trumpet, Jimmy Miller on percussion; instrumental
- Plundered My Soul I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax;
unverified instrumental; date unsure
- Rip This Joint I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version with KR on vocals
- Rip This Joint II (MJ/KR) -instrumental backing track
- Rocks Off I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax, Jim
Price on trumpet and/or trombone; instrumental backing track
- Rocks Off II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax, Jim
Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main St.-version
- Soul Survivor I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax, Jim
Price on trumpet; early version with KR on lead vocals; Exile On Main St.-
2010-remaster-version
- Soul Survivor II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax,
Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; instrumental backing track
- Soul Survivor III (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax,
Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main St.-version
- Ventilator Blues I (MJ/KR/MT) -instrumental rehearsal; Crossfire Hurricane-version
- Ventilator Blues II (MJ/KR/MT) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on sax,
Jim Price on trumpet and/or trombone; Exile On Main St.-version
+ more
Additional musicians: Nicky Hopkins, Jimmy Miller, Bobby Keys and Jim Price.
Note: In July they recorded about 20 new tracks. No mixing or overdubbing
was done until the 30th November.
The vocal parts for most of the tracks were recorded in Los Angeles.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 4, 2015 18:05
Quote
35love
Looking further into this recently, there are quotes from Keith 2010 (one was with Chicago paper/interview) where Keith talked about listening to the old Exhile out-takes (he described it bringing back Nellcote basement memories/dust smell)
And I believe a quote from Was saying he got a fax from Keith saying basically: 'go ahead pull up old Exhile tapes/ do your best/ my okay'
So the claim 'Keith not even aware' seems untrue!
That's not what was said. What was said was he had NO IDEA about Mick Taylor recording on Plundered even after it was finished. I pasted that quote a page or few back.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: September 4, 2015 18:05
Quote
kleermakerQuote
Doxa
Someone asked a while ago if there is any other attempt - than "Plundered My Soul" - to capture some of the stylistic magic of "Tumbling Dice", and even though I put some thought on it, I couldn't pick any.
But yesterday, when I was having my well-deserved beer at my local, suddenly - and quite out of the blue - a certain Stones song I haven't listened for ages came out of the speakers, and took my attention.
It was "Mixed Emotions". Probably that issue was still in my mind, and I started, first time ever, to think the tune in terms of "Dice". And it made sense. Even at the time when it was released, back in 1989, I remember it sounded familiar - some typical Stones groove in it, easy to recognize. There was this certain retro-feel, even though it wasn't so easy to pick any particular song - or a league of them - in their catalog being very similar to it.
But now, after "Plundered", when we have two of them - the variants of that particular groove - I think "Emotions" fits rather nicely into that league. That rather mid-tempo, dancable groove, the way the rhythm is emphasized, the 'accent'of it... (even though "Emotions" is a bit more straight-forward rhythmic-wise, and having less that mystique x-factor, than the other two).
Like I said, that never had occurred to me earlier, but probably most of you find my claim not very convincing (since there is not any EXILE feel or anything like that in "Emotions" and probably Keith's guitar sounds these days a bit too obvious), but c'mon, people, give "Mixed Emotions" another listen and think of "Dice" (or "Plundered" if you like)...
- Doxa
Agreed Doxa. Besides I happen to like Mixed Emotions: a good song!
At first blush I didn't mind Mixed Emotions, but upon repeat listens it just sounds very 'generic stones', which they took even further with "Don't Stop" which I find pretty unlistenable. The sound of the stones trying to find the magic sound that made them special. It has no soul.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 4, 2015 18:08
Quote
Doxa
Someone asked a while ago if there is any other attempt - than "Plundered My Soul" - to capture some of the stylistic magic of "Tumbling Dice", and even though I put some thought on it, I couldn't pick any.
But yesterday, when I was having my well-deserved beer at my local, suddenly - and quite out of the blue - a certain Stones song I haven't listened for ages came out of the speakers, and took my attention.
It was "Mixed Emotions". Probably that issue was still in my mind, and I started, first time ever, to think the tune in terms of "Dice". And it made sense. Even at the time when it was released, back in 1989, I remember it sounded familiar - some typical Stones groove in it, easy to recognize. There was this certain retro-feel, even though it wasn't so easy to pick any particular song - or a league of them - in their catalog being very similar to it.
But now, after "Plundered", when we have two of them - the variants of that particular groove - I think "Emotions" fits rather nicely into that league. That rather mid-tempo, dancable groove, the way the rhythm is emphasized, the 'accent'of it... (even though "Emotions" is a bit more straight-forward rhythmic-wise, and having less that mystique x-factor, than the other two).
Like I said, that never had occurred to me earlier, but probably most of you find my claim not very convincing (since there is not any EXILE feel or anything like that in "Emotions" and probably Keith's guitar sounds these days a bit too obvious), but c'mon, people, give "Mixed Emotions" another listen and think of "Dice" (or "Plundered" if you like)...
- Doxa
The closest groove to TD is PMS. How you hear that in Mixed Emotions is the mystery of the century.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 4, 2015 18:24
If they had only released what was recorded in France...
All Down The Line
Casino Boogie
Following The River
Happy
I'm Not Signifying
Let It Loose
Loving Cup
Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren)
Plundered My Soul
Rip This Joint
Rocks Off
Soul Survivor
Ventilator Blues
All Down The Line
Casino Boogie
Following The River
Happy
I'm Not Signifying
Let It Loose
Loving Cup
Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren)
Plundered My Soul
Rip This Joint
Rocks Off
Soul Survivor
Ventilator Blues
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: September 4, 2015 19:11
So, all we have regarding where and when it was recorded is info from websites which often assume and sometimes get it wrong.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: September 4, 2015 19:13
Quote
GasLightStreet
If they had only released what was recorded in France...
All Down The Line
Casino Boogie
Following The River
Happy
I'm Not Signifying
Let It Loose
Loving Cup
Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren)
Plundered My Soul
Rip This Joint
Rocks Off
Soul Survivor
Ventilator Blues
The main backing for Let It loose was recorded at Olympic Studios, possibly even dates to 1969.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
Turner68
()
Date: September 4, 2015 19:43
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
Doxa
Someone asked a while ago if there is any other attempt - than "Plundered My Soul" - to capture some of the stylistic magic of "Tumbling Dice", and even though I put some thought on it, I couldn't pick any.
But yesterday, when I was having my well-deserved beer at my local, suddenly - and quite out of the blue - a certain Stones song I haven't listened for ages came out of the speakers, and took my attention.
It was "Mixed Emotions". Probably that issue was still in my mind, and I started, first time ever, to think the tune in terms of "Dice". And it made sense. Even at the time when it was released, back in 1989, I remember it sounded familiar - some typical Stones groove in it, easy to recognize. There was this certain retro-feel, even though it wasn't so easy to pick any particular song - or a league of them - in their catalog being very similar to it.
But now, after "Plundered", when we have two of them - the variants of that particular groove - I think "Emotions" fits rather nicely into that league. That rather mid-tempo, dancable groove, the way the rhythm is emphasized, the 'accent'of it... (even though "Emotions" is a bit more straight-forward rhythmic-wise, and having less that mystique x-factor, than the other two).
Like I said, that never had occurred to me earlier, but probably most of you find my claim not very convincing (since there is not any EXILE feel or anything like that in "Emotions" and probably Keith's guitar sounds these days a bit too obvious), but c'mon, people, give "Mixed Emotions" another listen and think of "Dice" (or "Plundered" if you like)...
- Doxa
The closest groove to TD is PMS. How you hear that in Mixed Emotions is the mystery of the century.
yes.
although, mixed emotions is classic stones-by-numbers. the fact that it recalls past stones songs is not an accident. it's designed to do that.
when it was released "tumbling dice" did not recall any past stones songs. big difference.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-05 00:02 by Turner68.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: September 4, 2015 23:09
Agree w/ Treacle, Mixed Emotions is missing the soul for me too (and I've never linked it to TD!)
The bit about Keith being interviewed 2010 Chicago paper copied out of a published book, here we go again conflicting info. 'Plundered'
(quote) Keith told the Chicago Tribune in 2010, “I enjoyed going back through [ Exile ]. Going back through the tracks, I could smell that basement and all the dust. It was very evocative.” Keith, never one for the phone or email, but a great lover of the fax, faxed a handwritten note to Was before the 2010 sessions that read, “You don’t have to make it sound like Exile. It IS Exile. ” At another point, Keith had also said that messing around with the album could be “like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa.”
It’s a thankless task stepping into the job of producing the Stones in general, but certainly repackaging something as sacred as Exile. Any producer is going to get a backlash from old curmudgeonly Stones fans. But at the very least, Was’s work with the band— old and new stuff alike— adhered to the old physician’s adage, first, do no harm. He was conscious of overstepping, but wanted to make sure the finished overdubs were things that people wanted to listen to repeatedly, not just once out of curiosity. His charge, as he saw it, was to make Jimmy Miller proud. (unquote)
The bit about Keith being interviewed 2010 Chicago paper copied out of a published book, here we go again conflicting info. 'Plundered'
(quote) Keith told the Chicago Tribune in 2010, “I enjoyed going back through [ Exile ]. Going back through the tracks, I could smell that basement and all the dust. It was very evocative.” Keith, never one for the phone or email, but a great lover of the fax, faxed a handwritten note to Was before the 2010 sessions that read, “You don’t have to make it sound like Exile. It IS Exile. ” At another point, Keith had also said that messing around with the album could be “like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa.”
It’s a thankless task stepping into the job of producing the Stones in general, but certainly repackaging something as sacred as Exile. Any producer is going to get a backlash from old curmudgeonly Stones fans. But at the very least, Was’s work with the band— old and new stuff alike— adhered to the old physician’s adage, first, do no harm. He was conscious of overstepping, but wanted to make sure the finished overdubs were things that people wanted to listen to repeatedly, not just once out of curiosity. His charge, as he saw it, was to make Jimmy Miller proud. (unquote)
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
Naturalust
()
Date: September 4, 2015 23:16
His charge, as he saw it, was to make Jimmy Miller proud.
If so he failed miserably, imo. But to be fair, it's possible Jimmy Miler couldn't have done much more that Don Was did. The juju was so much more potent back in 1968-1973.
If so he failed miserably, imo. But to be fair, it's possible Jimmy Miler couldn't have done much more that Don Was did. The juju was so much more potent back in 1968-1973.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
LongBeachArena72
()
Date: September 5, 2015 00:00
I just spent 4 minutes listening to "Plundered My Soul" for the first time. Is there a longer version containing anything that is good?
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
Turner68
()
Date: September 5, 2015 00:02
Quote
LongBeachArena72
I just spent 4 minutes listening to "Plundered My Soul" for the first time. Is there a longer version containing anything that is good?
no, it's just all as awful as what you heard.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 5, 2015 02:22
Quote
His Majesty
So, all we have regarding where and when it was recorded is info from websites which often assume and sometimes get it wrong.
The liner notes say the same thing. What's the point? It's a leftover from the France EXILE sessions. Nothing subversive about it. There's no controversy other than what a couple of people piping that it may be from the EOMS sessions, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 5, 2015 02:24
Quote
Naturalust
His charge, as he saw it, was to make Jimmy Miller proud.
If so he failed miserably, imo. But to be fair, it's possible Jimmy Miler couldn't have done much more that Don Was did. The juju was so much more potent back in 1968-1973.
I'm Not Signifying, Plundered and Pass The Wine are not miserable failures, they're brilliant successes.
The rest of it is not Was' fault.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 5, 2015 02:25
Quote
His MajestyQuote
GasLightStreet
If they had only released what was recorded in France...
All Down The Line
Casino Boogie
Following The River
Happy
I'm Not Signifying
Let It Loose
Loving Cup
Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren)
Plundered My Soul
Rip This Joint
Rocks Off
Soul Survivor
Ventilator Blues
The main backing for Let It loose was recorded at Olympic Studios, possibly even dates to 1969.
- Let It Loose II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano and mellotron;
backing track
suggests it was recorded again, and that this recording was used for EOMS.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 5, 2015 02:25
Quote
LongBeachArena72
I just spent 4 minutes listening to "Plundered My Soul" for the first time. Is there a longer version containing anything that is good?
UK mix is fantastic.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
kish_stoned
()
Date: September 5, 2015 02:31
One of the best, nice bluesy track, deluxe exile is good too, if these songs were on bootleg fans would search for them, when given in the best sound some fans always complain.
ONLY ROCK-ROLL, BUT WE LIKE IT, PLAY IT LOUD.
ONLY ROCK-ROLL, BUT WE LIKE IT, PLAY IT LOUD.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: September 5, 2015 05:40
Quote
GasLightStreet
- Let It Loose II (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano and mellotron;
backing track
suggests it was recorded again, and that this recording was used for EOMS.
Like the leslie guitar, bass and drums that is from the recording at Olympic Studios 1969/1970.
The backing vocals were recorded in LA.Some form of Jaggers vocal was recorded at Olympic Studios as well, we hear it leak on the bootleg backing track, but he may have re done them in LA.
So a track which features recordings from before and after, but, unless the horns were recorded there, most likely not during their time in France.
The main backing might even have been recorded before Taylor joined the stones in 1969.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-05 05:52 by His Majesty.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: September 6, 2015 06:30
So Let It Loose 2 is not necessarily the second take, just the second session of work on it. So it wasn't recorded in Keith's basement but may be worked on there.
Or... maybe they did another recording (take) of it but used the old one instead.
Or... maybe they did another recording (take) of it but used the old one instead.
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: September 6, 2015 06:48
No, definitely not the 2nd take, there would have been many attempts at Olympic. 
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: September 7, 2015 01:31
If you can't see them there are three more below the LP versions that are the UK mix
LP version
video: [www.youtube.com]
LP version
video: [www.youtube.com]
Re: Plundered My Soul
Posted by:
RobberBride
()
Date: September 9, 2015 10:45
Quote
His Majesty
Likely the leslie guitar, bass and drums is from the recording at Olympic Studios 1969/1970.
Some form of Jaggers vocal was recorded at Olympic Studios as well, we hear it leak on the bootleg backing track, but he may have re done them in LA.
So a track which features recordings from before and after, but, unless the horns were recorded there, most likely not during their time in France.
The main backing might even have been recorded before Taylor joined the stones in 1969.
Have to agree with you there HM. Let it Loose is one of those few elusive tracks on Exile thats kind of hard to pinpoint. Have always been very suspicious of the backing track being that old, but it might be true. No one I have asked about this track have been able to nail the proceedings. When I realized they had a Vibratone down in the Nellcote basement I throught they could have done it there, but it doesnt have that Nellcote tone. The horns could very well have been recorded on the Riviera, but LiL have never been mentioned being brought down among the Bermundsey tracks, I even asked Churchill about him bringing this track spesificly, but no verification. The other ones, yes, but he did not remember this.
Sorry to hi-jack the Plundered thread, a track I love by the way. But then Im among those few who find every tone recorded at Nellcote very interesting.
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