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Title5Take1
Johnny Rotten/Lydon in his new memoir ANGER IS AN ENERGY:
"Me and Peter [Tosh] were having a disagreement, anyway—it might've been been to do with the Rolling Stones actually! Listen, we're all capable of getting up on our high horses, and sometimes those horses are a little TOO high. Peter was working with them and I was having my say on that.
"I've always known, though, that Keith Richards loves his reggae. He's always been well rooted in it. Musically that's an educated fella. I've never met him. We probably wouldn't get on...It's a good mark...of valuing stars, when I find out they're like librarians in their approach, that they want to know everything about anyone who works in the same field. That's how it should be.
"So, good on Keith for liking reggae. I mean: in between yearly blood transfusions, why not?"
Keith obviously broadened his listening beyond Chuck Berry.
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stones2000
Thanks so much everyone for all the insight and wisdom. I really appreciated hearing all your views on this.
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riffcliche69
My "complete loyalty to The Stones" consists of continuing (however feebly), their aesthetic of great songwriting. Number one is "the hook" - that great, compelling lick. The kind of note combination that cuts through all the incessant , bloody rubbish that we're reluctantly obliged to daily endure. A riff that, when one analyzes it, appears simple, but within a two-and-half/three minute "pop" enclosure (along with "direct" lyrics) guarantees that before the song ends, we've already decided to lift the needle and play the 45 again. A few guitar tones, strategically placed, along with an easy-to-digest vocal "story line". Now, that's "Satisfaction"!
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Naturalust
I think all this asking a young Stones fan to go back to the Stones influences is a bit over the top. It's projecting your own musical experience on to someone else. It's fine if your musical journey starts with the Stones and moves forward from there. Plenty of great music created since the Stones for a young person to explore and finding the source is admirable but hardly necessary. It's definitely an individual thing and moving backward a couple generation in time isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. I personally love the music of my generation better than that of my parents or grandparents, by a long shot.
As far as loyalty to the Stones goes, it's hard to understand what that even means. If someone only listens to the Stones it seems to me they are probably a bit unwell and likely have bigger issues than music appreciation in their life. It's like someone only eating hamburgers because it's their favorite food. Possibly some OCD going on there. Of course people should listen to as much different music as they can, especially if they are young and impressionable. There is a lot more out there to love besides the Stones. If you find yourself drawn back to the Stones, great but it is unlikely you will have avoided finding plenty of other stuff which also gives you great pleasure hearing. Am I disloyal because I prefer to hear another artist or don't listen to the Stones for a long while, of course not. But I do believe for many of my generation, they are indeed at the hub of the wheel, and almost all musical paths lead back to them eventually.
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Naturalust
I think all this asking a young Stones fan to go back to the Stones influences is a bit over the top. It's projecting your own musical experience on to someone else. It's fine if your musical journey starts with the Stones and moves forward from there. Plenty of great music created since the Stones for a young person to explore and finding the source is admirable but hardly necessary. It's definitely an individual thing and moving backward a couple generation in time isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. I personally love the music of my generation better than that of my parents or grandparents, by a long shot.
As far as loyalty to the Stones goes, it's hard to understand what that even means. If someone only listens to the Stones it seems to me they are probably a bit unwell and likely have bigger issues than music appreciation in their life. It's like someone only eating hamburgers because it's their favorite food. Possibly some OCD going on there. Of course people should listen to as much different music as they can, especially if they are young and impressionable. There is a lot more out there to love besides the Stones. If you find yourself drawn back to the Stones, great but it is unlikely you will have avoided finding plenty of other stuff which also gives you great pleasure hearing. Am I disloyal because I prefer to hear another artist or don't listen to the Stones for a long while, of course not. But I do believe for many of my generation, they are indeed at the hub of the wheel, and almost all musical paths lead back to them eventually.
i agree. it's obvious to me the original post is a joke.
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Naturalust
I think all this asking a young Stones fan to go back to the Stones influences is a bit over the top. It's projecting your own musical experience on to someone else. It's fine if your musical journey starts with the Stones and moves forward from there. Plenty of great music created since the Stones for a young person to explore and finding the source is admirable but hardly necessary. It's definitely an individual thing and moving backward a couple generation in time isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. I personally love the music of my generation better than that of my parents or grandparents, by a long shot.
As far as loyalty to the Stones goes, it's hard to understand what that even means. If someone only listens to the Stones it seems to me they are probably a bit unwell and likely have bigger issues than music appreciation in their life. It's like someone only eating hamburgers because it's their favorite food. Possibly some OCD going on there. Of course people should listen to as much different music as they can, especially if they are young and impressionable. There is a lot more out there to love besides the Stones. If you find yourself drawn back to the Stones, great but it is unlikely you will have avoided finding plenty of other stuff which also gives you great pleasure hearing. Am I disloyal because I prefer to hear another artist or don't listen to the Stones for a long while, of course not. But I do believe for many of my generation, they are indeed at the hub of the wheel, and almost all musical paths lead back to them eventually.
i agree. it's obvious to me the original post is a joke.
No, it wasn't a joke. I do apparently have OCD tendencies, but I don't think that's necessarily playing into it. I have always wondered about what other people think about listening to nothing but the Stones. Because, up until about a week ago, since that's what I've been doing (ever since I got into the Stones about a year ago)
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I think all this asking a young Stones fan to go back to the Stones influences is a bit over the top. It's projecting your own musical experience on to someone else. It's fine if your musical journey starts with the Stones and moves forward from there. Plenty of great music created since the Stones for a young person to explore and finding the source is admirable but hardly necessary. It's definitely an individual thing and moving backward a couple generation in time isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea. I personally love the music of my generation better than that of my parents or grandparents, by a long shot.
As far as loyalty to the Stones goes, it's hard to understand what that even means. If someone only listens to the Stones it seems to me they are probably a bit unwell and likely have bigger issues than music appreciation in their life. It's like someone only eating hamburgers because it's their favorite food. Possibly some OCD going on there. Of course people should listen to as much different music as they can, especially if they are young and impressionable. There is a lot more out there to love besides the Stones. If you find yourself drawn back to the Stones, great but it is unlikely you will have avoided finding plenty of other stuff which also gives you great pleasure hearing. Am I disloyal because I prefer to hear another artist or don't listen to the Stones for a long while, of course not. But I do believe for many of my generation, they are indeed at the hub of the wheel, and almost all musical paths lead back to them eventually.
i agree. it's obvious to me the original post is a joke.
No, it wasn't a joke. I do apparently have OCD tendencies, but I don't think that's necessarily playing into it. I have always wondered about what other people think about listening to nothing but the Stones. Because, up until about a week ago, since that's what I've been doing (ever since I got into the Stones about a year ago)
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riffcliche69
When I listen to early African-American music, and the way it is presented, both lyrically and melodically, I often wonder, did they conceive their composition as an immediate expression, or as a "living indictment" of their condition? If I were a young person researching the antecedents of British blues, I would pay attention to the groups that genuinely reflect that.
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drbryant
If you aren't really interested in music, then listen to only the Stones. If you care about music, then listen to some of the artists suggested in this thread, or listen to more recent artists that play in the blues/rock mode. Or, better yet, see them live.
Jack White or the Black Keys might be a good start.
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latebloomer
Stones2000 at your young age, you should listen to all kinds of music, and a good place to start would be with the music that influenced the Stones. From the old bluesman, like Robert Johnson and Muddy Waters, to Buddy Holly to Chuck Berry. Explore soul and reggae and even classical, Keith says he listens to it every morning. Mick and Ronnie like to keep up on what's new, and Charlie is a jazz guy to his core. So, there's lots of music to listen to, all of it Stones approved.
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bathsheba
Dear dear Stones2000
You should NOT feel bad! God,no-one can be lukewarm about them, can they? It's a passion, a riot in the heart! There might be a long period when you listen to no-one else and have some tracks/albums on repeatedly and you revel in the gorgeousness of it.
It's because you have fallen in love. The infatuation phase might lead to a less intense phase. You might go off on an off-shoot and start experimenting with other musicians and liking those does not mean you've committed fan adultery. The incomparable Stones will still be there for you when you need a little coke and sympathy....
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stonesrule
YES to Late Bloomer and Steffalicia's advice!
AND, this is the music that influenced Keith and Mick when they were your age!
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stones2000
I was hoping some (or all) of you could chime in with your opinion on this subject- basically, I'm wondering what "Complete Loyalty to the Stones" means to you? Does it mean never listening to another artist, or is it ok as long as the Stones are always your favourite? I've been struggling with this recently. The Stones will always be my absolute favorite, but should I feel disloyal for listening to another band? Someone told me that broadening my musical taste might help me to appreciate the Stones that much more, and I think there's a degree of wisdom in that. Anyway, I'd really appreciate any opinions or wisdom you might have. Thanks
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Silver Dagger
Complete loyalty to my ass!
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stones2000
I was hoping some (or all) of you could chime in with your opinion on this subject- basically, I'm wondering what "Complete Loyalty to the Stones" means to you? Does it mean never listening to another artist, or is it ok as long as the Stones are always your favourite? I've been struggling with this recently. The Stones will always be my absolute favorite, but should I feel disloyal for listening to another band? Someone told me that broadening my musical taste might help me to appreciate the Stones that much more, and I think there's a degree of wisdom in that. Anyway, I'd really appreciate any opinions or wisdom you might have. Thanks