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keefriffhards
All this talk on iorr about Keith, the two Mick's, Ronnie, and Bill etc..
Not much talk on Charlie. he gets over looked sometimes.
Any drummers out there knowledgeable on the subject of Charlie Watts drums.
To a novice like me he is great. Ronnie once said Charlie is an economist with his drum kit.
He certainly is good enough to have ducked out of many interviews and promotion duties over the years.
so i put it to iorr. Is he worth it.
Personally i love him and think he is, and always has been, IRREPLACEABLE.
But as i say, i am a novice when it comes to the Drums..
would be nice to put the record straight.. any of your views please..
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keefriffhards
All this talk on iorr about Keith, the two Mick's, Ronnie, and Bill etc..
Not much talk on Charlie. he gets over looked sometimes.
Any drummers out there knowledgeable on the subject of Charlie Watts drums.
To a novice like me he is great. Ronnie once said Charlie is an economist with his drum kit.
He certainly is good enough to have ducked out of many interviews and promotion duties over the years.
so i put it to iorr. Is he worth it.
Personally i love him and think he is, and always has been, IRREPLACEABLE.
But as i say, i am a novice when it comes to the Drums..
would be nice to put the record straight.. any of your views please..
I like Charlie too, he is everyone's darling, isn't he? But he's no special drummer. Just average and indeed economic. Mostly he gets his instructions from Jagger (as can be heard on the famous bootleg with the recording of Sympathy FTD, alas mine has broken during the years).
Charlie is just so popular because of his low profile personality and his immense loyalty to both Jagger and Richards. Indeed, the 'perfect' drummer for the Glimmers.
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MartinB
I am with Mathijs, about both Charlie and Bill.
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MartinB
I am with Mathijs, about both Charlie and Bill.
Mathijs put it perfectly.
To say he's not a special drummer and just average reflects a limited musically knowledge if there is some knowledge at all.
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RobertJohnson
With exception of Mick Taylor there is no genius in music in the band, but all of them contribute to this unique Stones sound you can't never find otherwise. And thus that holds for Charlie Watts, too. Insofar he is a unique and singular drummer.
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TheBlockbuster
I would not call Taylor a musical genius. He simply lacked the talent to know what not to play, which live in concert resulted in him spoiling some tunes by overplaying. If there's any member of the Stones which is not a musical genius, it's Mick Taylor
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MartinB
I am with Mathijs, about both Charlie and Bill.
Mathijs put it perfectly.
To say he's not a special drummer and just average reflects a limited musically knowledge if there is some knowledge at all.
It's not a matter of knowledge, dear friend. Music isn't science you know, but art.
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Mathijs
I couldn't disagree more with Kleermaker than on his statement here. Charlie really IS the Rolling Stones. Charlie really is a very awkward drummer, with an unique drumming style that seems quite simple but is very, very difficult to replicate or copy. The thing is that with Charlie even the most simple drum pattern has that sense of push and pull, which makes the music much more dynamic and swing.
There simply would not have been the famous post-1969 Stones without Charlie Watts. Keith Richards would have never been able to evolve to his peak in 1975 and 1978 without Charlie Watts.
And Wyman is much the same: basically a bassist with a lack of even the most basic technical skills, but able to always find that fantastic groove and swing, and always able to add a melodic layer in what is fairly simple music.
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RobertJohnson
With exception of Mick Taylor there is no genius in music in the band, but all of them contribute to this unique Stones sound you can't never find otherwise. And thus that holds for Charlie Watts, too. Insofar he is a unique and singular drummer.
I would not call Taylor a musical genius. He simply lacked the talent to know what not to play, which live in concert resulted in him spoiling some tunes by overplaying. If there's any member of the Stones who is not a musical genius, it's Mick Taylor.
Mick J. and Keith are both genius song writers, which in my opinion makes them musical geniuses.
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MartinB
I am with Mathijs, about both Charlie and Bill.
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MartinB
I am with Mathijs, about both Charlie and Bill.
Mathijs put it perfectly.
To say he's not a special drummer and just average reflects a limited musically knowledge if there is some knowledge at all.
It's not a matter of knowledge, dear friend. Music isn't science you know, but art.
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RobertJohnson
With exception of Mick Taylor there is no genius in music in the band, but all of them contribute to this unique Stones sound you can't never find otherwise. And thus that holds for Charlie Watts, too. Insofar he is a unique and singular drummer.
I would not call Taylor a musical genius. He simply lacked the talent to know what not to play, which live in concert resulted in him spoiling some tunes by overplaying. If there's any member of the Stones who is not a musical genius, it's Mick Taylor.
Mick J. and Keith are both genius song writers, which in my opinion makes them musical geniuses.
I have the same opinion as you and have expressed it before but man you can get flamed for it. That was before the Taylorites had their own dedicated thread so hopefully you might be spared.
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MartinB
I am with Mathijs, about both Charlie and Bill.
Mathijs put it perfectly.
To say he's not a special drummer and just average reflects a limited musically knowledge if there is some knowledge at all.
It's not a matter of knowledge, dear friend. Music isn't science you know, but art.