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Leonioid
Maybe it means if/when we all allowed them to do what they did to
Kennedys and allowed them to get away with it and believe that BS report
that says it was one guy who did it... and we dont push for the truth and
punish the people behind it... then we are all just as guilty as the people
who set it and pulled the triggers.
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Naturalust
My take is that the "you" part is they were just too popular with too many and when elevated to such a high level, they were automatically perceived as a thread which couldn't be eliminated by traditional means, so unfortunately they were killed. The "me" part from Satan's perspective just seems that he is involved in all such evil acts.
What's interesting to me is how often (always?) Jagger skips this verse. Not sure if it's because he thinks it's lost some relevance, to shorten the song or out of a personal fear some idiot will retaliate after taking it literally that he was involved. I think it's probably the latter, which is kind of a shame...artists changing their art due to fear.
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Munichhilton
Satan's manipulation of humanity to destroy itself...rings true throughout the song...even Keith's solo says it
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Naturalust
My take is that the "you" part is they were just too popular with too many and when elevated to such a high level, they were automatically perceived as a thread which couldn't be eliminated by traditional means, so unfortunately they were killed. The "me" part from Satan's perspective just seems that he is involved in all such evil acts.
What's interesting to me is how often (always?) Jagger skips this verse. Not sure if it's because he thinks it's lost some relevance, to shorten the song or out of a personal fear some idiot will retaliate after taking it literally that he was involved. I think it's probably the latter, which is kind of a shame...artists changing their art due to fear. that is so absurd if that is true .
peace
Pretty well accepted as truth that Jagger "changed his art" at a request of ... The Kennedy's(John Jr.) I applaud his decision to honor the request.
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Munichhilton
Satan's manipulation of humanity to destroy itself...rings true throughout the song...even Keith's solo says it
that said, why sympathy for this..?
is that to mean 'we're hip to you..'
"the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions."
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Naturalust
My take is that the "you" part is they were just too popular with too many and when elevated to such a high level, they were automatically perceived as a thread which couldn't be eliminated by traditional means, so unfortunately they were killed. The "me" part from Satan's perspective just seems that he is involved in all such evil acts.
What's interesting to me is how often (always?) Jagger skips this verse. Not sure if it's because he thinks it's lost some relevance, to shorten the song or out of a personal fear some idiot will retaliate after taking it literally that he was involved. I think it's probably the latter, which is kind of a shame...artists changing their art due to fear.
peace
Pretty well accepted as truth that Jagger "changed his art" at a request of ... The Kennedy's(John Jr.) I applaud his decision to honor the request.
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Munichhilton
Satan's manipulation of humanity to destroy itself...rings true throughout the song...even Keith's solo says it
that said, why sympathy for this..?
is that to mean 'we're hip to you..'
"the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions."
Originally Satan was cast out of heaven and cursed to burn in hell for all eternity...wouldn't you think he's desiring some damn sympathy from the human race or retaliate by laying our souls to waste?
Keiths solo makes all this so clear...
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Leonioid
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PSA
^^Everyone realizes this thing is best ignored?
When you run into it, or it replies to you, it is not worth a reply.
It has not made a worthy post yet.
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Naturalust
My take is that the "you" part is they were just too popular with too many and when elevated to such a high level, they were automatically perceived as a thread which couldn't be eliminated by traditional means, so unfortunately they were killed. The "me" part from Satan's perspective just seems that he is involved in all such evil acts.
What's interesting to me is how often (always?) Jagger skips this verse. Not sure if it's because he thinks it's lost some relevance, to shorten the song or out of a personal fear some idiot will retaliate after taking it literally that he was involved. I think it's probably the latter, which is kind of a shame...artists changing their art due to fear.
peace
Pretty well accepted as truth that Jagger "changed his art" at a request of ... The Kennedy's(John Jr.) I applaud his decision to honor the request.
Really? Is this documented anywhere? If that's the reason I agree it was a nice move by Jagger, but I can't imagine John Jr. caring so much about a Stones tune in light of all the books and other media which covers that topic.
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stonehearted
<<Looks like the last time he sang those lyrics live was 2002, then starting with the Bigger Bang tour he had decided not to, I am curious if he has ever been quoted about why.>>
The subject matter is no longer current and doesn't register with the same emotional spark in the public popular consciousness the way it once did at the time it was recorded.
Just like anything else. Suppose Jagger had referenced the Profumo affair in a line of song lyrics. What does the Profumo affair mean to anyone in 2015?
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Munichhilton
Satan's manipulation of humanity to destroy itself...rings true throughout the song...even Keith's solo says it
that said, why sympathy for this..?
is that to mean 'we're hip to you..'
"the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions."
Originally Satan was cast out of heaven and cursed to burn in hell for all eternity...wouldn't you think he's desiring some damn sympathy from the human race or retaliate by laying our souls to waste?
Keiths solo makes all this so clear...
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stonehearted
The subject matter is no longer current
I doubt simply not being a current event is the reason why he stopped, because he still sings about Pilate washing his hands, the czar and his ministers, riding a Tank in WWII etc etc.
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Munichhilton
Satan's manipulation of humanity to destroy itself...rings true throughout the song...even Keith's solo says it
that said, why sympathy for this..?
is that to mean 'we're hip to you..'
"the harmony of feeling naturally existing between persons of like tastes or opinion or of congenial dispositions."
Originally Satan was cast out of heaven and cursed to burn in hell for all eternity...wouldn't you think he's desiring some damn sympathy from the human race or retaliate by laying our souls to waste?
Keiths solo makes all this so clear...
Sympathy can also mean in support of a position or opinion, like a sympathy vote or strike. I always looked at it that way...that if you encounter the devil, you better get on board with his program, or else. Could also just be that Mick was using the word ironically.
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DaveG
I think the "Lucifer" or the devil in this song is merely a metaphor. I think it addresses the potential for evil that exists in all humans, and that if we think we're above it, we're fooling ourselves. In other words, let's respect it, let's have a healthy fear of and recognition of the dark underbelly of human nature.