...who exactly was carrying the record?

From the NME in May 1964 reprinted in NME Originals, 2003.




"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

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I'd always thought it was Mick holding the records.

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I'd always thought it was Mick holding the records.

me too.

I think they met in the train and Mick was holding some vinyls! HM knows

Didn't Keith say Mick was holding the records, in the interview on 25x5?

At least that's what he said...in other words, who knows?!

This is fantastic - thanks for posting!

I also thought it was Mick, BUT imagining the scenario it would seem more likely that Keith
would have been walking around with records than Mick. If Mick had a great collection,
which everyone agrees on, why would he have been walking around with his records. Unless
he just bought them, I suppose. But I can imagine Keith going somewhere carrying records.

My favorite quote in that article is "Bo Diddley calls his music Bo Diddley, so where do you
go from there?"

This was published on the May 22 edition of NME, and Mick talks about having "loads of R&B LPs and singles", though he didn't mentioned meeting Keith at the station or who was carrying the records.

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Didn't Keith say Mick was holding the records, in the interview on 25x5?

At least that's what he said...in other words, who knows?!

Yep, and so does Mick!






"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

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This is fantastic - thanks for posting!

I also thought it was Mick, BUT imagining the scenario it would seem more likely that Keith
would have been walking around with records than Mick. If Mick had a great collection,
which everyone agrees on, why would he have been walking around with his records. Unless
he just bought them, I suppose. But I can imagine Keith going somewhere carrying records.

My favorite quote in that article is "Bo Diddley calls his music Bo Diddley, so where do you
go from there?"

Back in the day, it was a big thing to walk around with your albums under your arm, title side facing out, to show how cool you were. I certainly did, so Mick probably wasn't above doing it, either! (I always read it was him, too, and that the encounter took place on the station platform.)

....the MAIN thing out of it all is that they met



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Didn't Keith say Mick was holding the records, in the interview on 25x5?

At least that's what he said...in other words, who knows?!

Yes. He's like, "Yeah, great to see you again, but 'Where'd you get the records'?"

It was Mick.

In addition to all of the above comments, remember that Mick and Keef come from very different backgrounds.

Mick's family were relatively well off middle-class with his dad being a teacher, whereas Keef comes from a poor(er) working class background.

Mick would have had the resources (cash and ability ie knowing how to do it) to buy records from the USA, Keef would not have.

In 2014 it's very easy to forget how hard it was to set about a small international purchase that would work. You had to have International Money Orders, etc, and that was always a complicated process.

Buying records from the USA was definitely something for the very dedicated and well resourced person.

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Doesn't Keith mention this in LIFE? What does he say? (I'm too lazy to look it up, and I imagine everyone else is as well)

Marshall Chess packed albums for shipping as a kid for his dad's Chess Records and actually remembers packing a shipment for "M.P. Jagger, Dartford, Kent." (From According to the Rolling Stones.)

I always thought that it was Mick who had the records.

However, on the November 25 2012-show, Mick said ..."do you still got those records, Keith?" - referring to their encounter...

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I always thought that it was Mick who had the records.

However, on the November 25 2012-show, Mick said ..."do you still got those records, Keith?" - referring to their encounter...

Maybe Keith "borrowed" them!


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

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I always thought that it was Mick who had the records.

However, on the November 25 2012-show, Mick said ..."do you still got those records, Keith?" - referring to their encounter...

Maybe Keith "borrowed" them!

Maybe

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I always thought that it was Mick who had the records.

However, on the November 25 2012-show, Mick said ..."do you still got those records, Keith?" - referring to their encounter...

Maybe Keith "borrowed" them!

Maybe

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I always thought that it was Mick who had the records.

However, on the November 25 2012-show, Mick said ..."do you still got those records, Keith?" - referring to their encounter...

Maybe Keith "borrowed" them!

Maybe

No, that's actually what Jagger implied - he said just that, "he borrowed them from me..." (or something similar), rather mumbling, immediately following that first line.

And are you sure you don't mean Glastonbury (or Hyde Park maybe)? I distinctly remember seeing that scene a couple of times on my tv.

And yes, as the story always went it was Mick holding them records.
I don't see anything solid contradicting that now, btw...?!

And to mr. Chess I'd say: yeah, right...
(Sounds a whole lot like a Keithism to me, that story.)



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No, it was in the O2-arena. He said something like: "It took us 50 years to get from Dartford to Greenwich. BTW, do you still have those (Bo Diddley) records, Keith?

OK... I stand corrected, then.
Maybe I saw some Youtube clips on my tv;
or maybe he cracked that same joke twice in one year.

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And to mr. Chess I'd say: yeah, right...
(Sounds a whole lot like a Keithism to me, that story.)

I go back to the point about how unusual and hard it was in 1962 in England to do an international order for obscure LP records from a small label in the middle of the far off USA.

It's plausible that if they only had a couple of sales to England per month (or even per year!) that Marshall Chess would remember it. (But I take the point about it being a Keithism though!

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And to mr. Chess I'd say: yeah, right...
(Sounds a whole lot like a Keithism to me, that story.)

I go back to the point about how unusual and hard it was in 1962 in England to do an international order for obscure LP records from a small label in the middle of the far off USA.

It's plausible that if they only had a couple of sales to England per month (or even per year!) that Marshall Chess would remember it. (But I take the point about it being a Keithism though!

I read somewhere Mick's father was the trainer/coach (and a gymnastic teacher) of the English basketballteam which went to the USA to play a tournement. Maybe old Joe Jagger buyed some vinyl on Mick's advise and took it home in 1960/61.

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And to mr. Chess I'd say: yeah, right...
(Sounds a whole lot like a Keithism to me, that story.)

I go back to the point about how unusual and hard it was in 1962 in England to do an international order for obscure LP records from a small label in the middle of the far off USA.

It's plausible that if they only had a couple of sales to England per month (or even per year!) that Marshall Chess would remember it. (But I take the point about it being a Keithism though!

I read somewhere Mick's father was the trainer/coach (and a gymnastic teacher) of the English basketballteam which went to the USA to play a tournement. Maybe old Joe Jagger buyed some vinyl on Mick's advise and took it home in 1960/61.

He wasn't that old in 1960!

Also, a lot of people got US records via American GIs in England. There was quite a black market in American records.

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And to mr. Chess I'd say: yeah, right...
(Sounds a whole lot like a Keithism to me, that story.)

I go back to the point about how unusual and hard it was in 1962 in England to do an international order for obscure LP records from a small label in the middle of the far off USA.

It's plausible that if they only had a couple of sales to England per month (or even per year!) that Marshall Chess would remember it. (But I take the point about it being a Keithism though!

I read somewhere Mick's father was the trainer/coach (and a gymnastic teacher) of the English basketballteam which went to the USA to play a tournement. Maybe old Joe Jagger buyed some vinyl on Mick's advise and took it home in 1960/61.

He wasn't that old in 1960!

Also, a lot of people got US records via American GIs in England. There was quite a black market in American records.

Joe Jagger was from 1913, so old enough in 1960 to be the trainer/coach of the English national basketballteam.

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And to mr. Chess I'd say: yeah, right...
(Sounds a whole lot like a Keithism to me, that story.)

I go back to the point about how unusual and hard it was in 1962 in England to do an international order for obscure LP records from a small label in the middle of the far off USA.

It's plausible that if they only had a couple of sales to England per month (or even per year!) that Marshall Chess would remember it. (But I take the point about it being a Keithism though!

I read somewhere Mick's father was the trainer/coach (and a gymnastic teacher) of the English basketballteam which went to the USA to play a tournement. Maybe old Joe Jagger buyed some vinyl on Mick's advise and took it home in 1960/61.

He wasn't that old in 1960!

Also, a lot of people got US records via American GIs in England. There was quite a black market in American records.

Joe Jagger was from 1913, so old enough in 1960 to be the trainer/coach of the English national basketballteam.

What I was saying is that, to me anyway, 47 isn't old.