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They do start grating after awhile.
Maybe just 3 sets of woo-woo's so we get where this is going, and then just end it already?
Noooooooooooo!!!!!
The US market tended to put singles on the albums, sometimes after the fact. In the UK, these hits weren't included on albums:
From Me to You
She Loves You
I Want to Hold Your Hand
I Feel Fine/She's a Woman
Eight Days a Week
We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper (US also)
Paperback Writer (US also)
Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields (US also, initially)
All You Need Is Love (US also, initially)
Hello Goodbye
Lady Madonna (US also)
Hey Jude/Revolution (US also)
Get Back (initially) (US also)
The Ballad of John and Yoko (US also)
For the Stones, these hits didn't appear on albums in the UK:
Not Fade Away
It's All Over Now
Heart of Stone
Little Red Rooster
The Last Time
Satisfaction
Get Off of My Cloud
As Tears Go By
19th Nervous Breakdown
Paint It Black
Have You Seen Your Mother
Let's Spend the Night Together & Ruby Tuesday
JJF
HTW
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-02 05:57 by TimeIs.
"Heart Of Stone" was never issued as a single in the UK and was on "Out Of Our Heads" [www.45worlds.com]
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Nahhh. Absolutely NO woo-woo aloud.
I think that Allen Klein might have had something to say about that!
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
OK, I'll give you that, if you leave me with 'Hope You Gepp My Name'.
good god
Just what I was thinking bitusa2012
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-07 16:06 by RockinJive.
It would've needed additional tracks overdubbed, if not a remix, to fit the sound of Black And Blue... so sure. It would've fit perfectly after Hand Of Fate.
Oh come on. Sure.
Especially if they removed Cherry Oh Baby.
"arguably the STONES two greatest hits" - Not on albums, theres your answer, if
these Brilliant tracks had been on albums they would NOT have been such huge
SINGLE Hits (and the '60's was the singles decade ) Many of the Stones singles
would have been HUGE Hits if they had NOT been on albums - why buy the single
when the A & B side were both on the new album, and lets face it a NEW STONES
ALBUM did'nt need help selling, and when the single was'nt on the album you
had an extra brilliant Stones track x 2 (A/B side)
Also remember this was the BESTFOUR ERA. After a shacky Satanics Majesty the
STONES THUNDERED BACK with JJF and Beggars Banquet (with a little help from
Jimmy Miller ) the STONES WERE BACK ..... AND THEY ARE STILL HERE
I do. For me, it's tracks like Symphony, Stray Cat Blues, Jig Saw Puzzle, Parachute Woman, Salt of the Earth. I love Some Girls but these songs blow away anything on Some Girls, easily.
I read somewhere (wish I could remember where) that Parsons, right after he heard the Honky Tonk Women we all know (the one that starts with the cowbell), immediately sat down at the piano and played the version that is on Let It Bleed. That is why I called it a "Graham Parsons arrangement."
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Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 31, 2014 17:58
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DelticsQuote
GasLightStreet
Remove SFTD and put JJF on...
Controversial!
They could just shorten it, maybe fade out just as Keith's guitar solo starts?
Maybe if they took out all the woo-woo's...
They do start grating after awhile.
Maybe just 3 sets of woo-woo's so we get where this is going, and then just end it already?
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Aquamarine
()
Date: August 1, 2014 10:40
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
treaclefingersQuote
DelticsQuote
GasLightStreet
Remove SFTD and put JJF on...
Controversial!
They could just shorten it, maybe fade out just as Keith's guitar solo starts?
Maybe if they took out all the woo-woo's...
They do start grating after awhile.
Maybe just 3 sets of woo-woo's so we get where this is going, and then just end it already?
Noooooooooooo!!!!!
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: August 1, 2014 15:15
One thing to remmember is that both "Flash" and "Honky Tonk" were released about six months earlier than the albums. So by the time the albums were released, those songs were old news - out of charts for months already. So it would have been re-cicling already used tools. Taking the artistic pride - including how seriously album format was taken - at the time, and the hectic atmosphere, for which a half year was a long time, I don't think they even considered including those songs in the albums. They were not just different artistic entities, but also 'yesterday's papers' already.
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-01 15:17 by Doxa.
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-01 15:17 by Doxa.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
TimeIs
()
Date: August 2, 2014 05:56
Quote
Pietro
But I don't recall any Beatles hits never appearing on their albums.
The US market tended to put singles on the albums, sometimes after the fact. In the UK, these hits weren't included on albums:
From Me to You
She Loves You
I Want to Hold Your Hand
I Feel Fine/She's a Woman
Eight Days a Week
We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper (US also)
Paperback Writer (US also)
Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields (US also, initially)
All You Need Is Love (US also, initially)
Hello Goodbye
Lady Madonna (US also)
Hey Jude/Revolution (US also)
Get Back (initially) (US also)
The Ballad of John and Yoko (US also)
For the Stones, these hits didn't appear on albums in the UK:
Not Fade Away
It's All Over Now
Heart of Stone
Little Red Rooster
The Last Time
Satisfaction
Get Off of My Cloud
As Tears Go By
19th Nervous Breakdown
Paint It Black
Have You Seen Your Mother
Let's Spend the Night Together & Ruby Tuesday
JJF
HTW
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-02 05:57 by TimeIs.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: August 2, 2014 11:36
Quote
TimeIsQuote
Pietro
But I don't recall any Beatles hits never appearing on their albums.
The US market tended to put singles on the albums, sometimes after the fact. In the UK, these hits weren't included on albums:
From Me to You
She Loves You
I Want to Hold Your Hand
I Feel Fine/She's a Woman
Eight Days a Week
We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper (US also)
Paperback Writer (US also)
Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields (US also, initially)
All You Need Is Love (US also, initially)
Hello Goodbye
Lady Madonna (US also)
Hey Jude/Revolution (US also)
Get Back (initially) (US also)
The Ballad of John and Yoko (US also)
For the Stones, these hits didn't appear on albums in the UK:
Not Fade Away
It's All Over Now
Heart of Stone
Little Red Rooster
The Last Time
Satisfaction
Get Off of My Cloud
As Tears Go By
19th Nervous Breakdown
Paint It Black
Have You Seen Your Mother
Let's Spend the Night Together & Ruby Tuesday
JJF
HTW
"Heart Of Stone" was never issued as a single in the UK and was on "Out Of Our Heads" [www.45worlds.com]
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 2, 2014 23:48
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
treaclefingersQuote
DelticsQuote
GasLightStreet
Remove SFTD and put JJF on...
Controversial!
They could just shorten it, maybe fade out just as Keith's guitar solo starts?
Maybe if they took out all the woo-woo's...
They do start grating after awhile.
Maybe just 3 sets of woo-woo's so we get where this is going, and then just end it already?
Nahhh. Absolutely NO woo-woo aloud.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
BroomWagon
()
Date: August 3, 2014 01:00
They should have just added JJF to Black and Blue, better late than never and Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: August 3, 2014 01:15
Quote
BroomWagon
They should have just added JJF to Black and Blue, better late than never and Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.
I think that Allen Klein might have had something to say about that!
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 3, 2014 18:54
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
treaclefingersQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
treaclefingersQuote
DelticsQuote
GasLightStreet
Remove SFTD and put JJF on...
Controversial!
They could just shorten it, maybe fade out just as Keith's guitar solo starts?
Maybe if they took out all the woo-woo's...
They do start grating after awhile.
Maybe just 3 sets of woo-woo's so we get where this is going, and then just end it already?
Nahhh. Absolutely NO woo-woo aloud.
OK, I'll give you that, if you leave me with 'Hope You Gepp My Name'.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
schwonek
()
Date: August 7, 2014 11:50
I went through search but couldn't find anything. So here goes my question: Did Mick on Honky Tonk Woman sing the different 2nd verse only in Paris 1976 or on the entire tour or what? He sings "Hamburg city" e.g. in Kiel here:
[soundcloud.com]
Any clues?
[soundcloud.com]
Any clues?
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 7, 2014 12:00
<Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.>
But not less music..
But not less music..
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: August 7, 2014 12:10
Quote
BroomWagon
They should have just added JJF to Black and Blue, better late than never and Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.
good god
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
RockinJive
()
Date: August 7, 2014 16:05
Quote
bitusa2012Quote
BroomWagon
They should have just added JJF to Black and Blue, better late than never and Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.
good god
Just what I was thinking bitusa2012
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-07 16:06 by RockinJive.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 7, 2014 17:15
Quote
BroomWagon
They should have just added JJF to Black and Blue, better late than never and Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.
It would've needed additional tracks overdubbed, if not a remix, to fit the sound of Black And Blue... so sure. It would've fit perfectly after Hand Of Fate.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: August 7, 2014 17:17
One word. noQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
BroomWagon
They should have just added JJF to Black and Blue, better late than never and Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.
It would've needed additional tracks overdubbed, if not a remix, to fit the sound of Black And Blue... so sure. It would've fit perfectly after Hand Of Fate.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 7, 2014 17:34
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More Hot RocksOne word. noQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
BroomWagon
They should have just added JJF to Black and Blue, better late than never and Black and Blue only had 8 songs on it.
It would've needed additional tracks overdubbed, if not a remix, to fit the sound of Black And Blue... so sure. It would've fit perfectly after Hand Of Fate.
Oh come on. Sure.
Especially if they removed Cherry Oh Baby.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
bestfour
()
Date: August 7, 2014 17:38
Quote
Pietro
"Jumpin' Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk Women," arguably the Stones two greatest hits, were never on albums (apart from greatest hits albums, that is). Why is that? JJF would have fit nicely into Beggars Banquet and HTW on Let It Bleed.
Does anybody know why they decided not to put these two songs on albums? It would have helped sell the albums, certainly.
(I know "Country Honk," the Graham Parsons arrangement of "Honky Tonk Women" is on Let it Bleed.)
"arguably the STONES two greatest hits" - Not on albums, theres your answer, if
these Brilliant tracks had been on albums they would NOT have been such huge
SINGLE Hits (and the '60's was the singles decade ) Many of the Stones singles
would have been HUGE Hits if they had NOT been on albums - why buy the single
when the A & B side were both on the new album, and lets face it a NEW STONES
ALBUM did'nt need help selling, and when the single was'nt on the album you
had an extra brilliant Stones track x 2 (A/B side)
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 7, 2014 17:49
Well, technically, officially, the album JJF and HTW is on is THROUGH THE PAST, DARKLY as I recall it being stated.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
bestfour
()
Date: August 7, 2014 17:52
Quote
bestfourQuote
Pietro
"Jumpin' Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk Women," arguably the Stones two greatest hits, were never on albums (apart from greatest hits albums, that is). Why is that? JJF would have fit nicely into Beggars Banquet and HTW on Let It Bleed.
Does anybody know why they decided not to put these two songs on albums? It would have helped sell the albums, certainly.
(I know "Country Honk," the Graham Parsons arrangement of "Honky Tonk Women" is on Let it Bleed.)
"arguably the STONES two greatest hits" - Not on albums, theres your answer, if
these Brilliant tracks had been on albums they would NOT have been such huge
SINGLE Hits (and the '60's was the singles decade ) Many of the Stones singles
would have been HUGE Hits if they had NOT been on albums - why buy the single
when the A & B side were both on the new album, and lets face it a NEW STONES
ALBUM did'nt need help selling, and when the single was'nt on the album you
had an extra brilliant Stones track x 2 (A/B side)
Also remember this was the BESTFOUR ERA. After a shacky Satanics Majesty the
STONES THUNDERED BACK with JJF and Beggars Banquet (with a little help from
Jimmy Miller ) the STONES WERE BACK ..... AND THEY ARE STILL HERE
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
bestfour
()
Date: August 7, 2014 18:52
Quote
AquamarineQuote
treaclefingersQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
treaclefingersQuote
DelticsQuote
GasLightStreet
Remove SFTD and put JJF on...
Controversial!
They could just shorten it, maybe fade out just as Keith's guitar solo starts?
Maybe if they took out all the woo-woo's...
They do start grating after awhile.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo YOUR ALL MAD - DESECRATION
Maybe just 3 sets of woo-woo's so we get where this is going, and then just end it already?
Noooooooooooo!!!!!
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Naturalust
()
Date: August 9, 2014 03:49
(I know "Country Honk," the Graham Parsons arrangement of "Honky Tonk Women" is on Let it Bleed.)
I doubt this is a Parsons arrangement, just a Stones tune and arrangement done in a country style. I believe this was inspired from Mick and Keith staying on a South American ranch in the country and a bit of porch time with the acoustics. peace
I doubt this is a Parsons arrangement, just a Stones tune and arrangement done in a country style. I believe this was inspired from Mick and Keith staying on a South American ranch in the country and a bit of porch time with the acoustics. peace
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Carnaby
()
Date: August 9, 2014 04:11
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: August 11, 2014 05:56
Quote
Pecman
....
I don't know why Stones fans put BB in the Top 4...
I think it's Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile and Some Girls hands down.
Pecman
I do. For me, it's tracks like Symphony, Stray Cat Blues, Jig Saw Puzzle, Parachute Woman, Salt of the Earth. I love Some Girls but these songs blow away anything on Some Girls, easily.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Brstonesfan
()
Date: August 11, 2014 05:59
This, IMO, hurt our album sales. We could have sold much more product if they
were included. Upsetting IMHO.
were included. Upsetting IMHO.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 11, 2014 18:39
Quote
Brstonesfan
This, IMO, hurt our album sales. We could have sold much more product if they
were included. Upsetting IMHO.
Re: Why weren't "Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk" on albums?
Posted by:
Pietro
()
Date: August 12, 2014 01:50
Quote
Naturalust
(I know "Country Honk," the Graham Parsons arrangement of "Honky Tonk Women" is on Let it Bleed.)
I doubt this is a Parsons arrangement, just a Stones tune and arrangement done in a country style. I believe this was inspired from Mick and Keith staying on a South American ranch in the country and a bit of porch time with the acoustics. peace
I read somewhere (wish I could remember where) that Parsons, right after he heard the Honky Tonk Women we all know (the one that starts with the cowbell), immediately sat down at the piano and played the version that is on Let It Bleed. That is why I called it a "Graham Parsons arrangement."
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