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Thanks SharksWillCry, that's interesting and goes into the direction of what I was thinking. That he refused to use one before. So it could be the influence of his seemingly very good relationship with Mick right now. Same shoes, hugs, smiles, a shared teleprompter... it's so heartwarming.
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Of course they use teleprompters and have been doing for many years. I can't see the problem, they are 70 year olds who have had to remember 1000's of lyircs. Sometimes I can be singing a song I've sung for 30 years and for some strange reason I just forget a line. I would imagine it would be a lot harder under the pressure of a live performance where 30,000 people are watching and listening to everything you do.
Dylan often did it and just made up words or mumbled or even repeated the same line, I think it happens to most performers. Solution - teleprinter. It doesn't mean you don't know the words (as maybe the case with younger bands) more a memory jogger or life raft if you have a complete blank out.
It's not really any different to when bands would sellotape lyrics on amps and nip over to check them. I don;t feel it decreases authenticity.
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Some guy told me, that Mick Jagger used also a teleprompter during a concert of the A Bigger Bang Tour. He was standing in one of the stage balconys and saw this from his place. I hope this is not true, because I would be disappointed in some kind of way.
why are you dissapointed? In my opinion everything is OK if it helps the guys onstage. There is or was a very important role in theatres called prompter. A real human prompter, not automatic. So if Sir Lawrence Olivier might have used a prompter onstage, then a telepprompter would fit the rock'n'roll bands nowadays, especially when you play in a stadium. Not that I've ever played music in a packed stadium....but I'd like to...
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I saw once Barbra Streisand live and she read every single word (songs & talk to the audience) from telepromters in front of her!!
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I have asked about this in the Telaviv thread already, but since there was no answer to the question, I thought I try again in a new thread. Did Keith during his set use a teleprompter for the lyrics in the past before this leg of the tour? I never realized it,but he obviously uses one now and it helps him with singing the right lyrics and keeping the pace of the song. Especially You Got the Silver benefits from it right now, compared to several videos I have seen from other concerts of the tour, where he often had problems with finding the lyrics at some points and with keeping the song flowing in consequence of that. For YGTS he only needs to take a look occasionally and I think it works well. For my taste he relies too much on the teleprompter still for Can't Be Seen, where he tends to glance somewhere to his left (teleprompter) for every second line, which shows his insecurity with the song. I guess this song wouldn't work without the teleprompter at all right now. But, to say something positive, I really like his vocals on this song, especially when he goes up with his voice ("I admit it anyway" etc.), which gives me a goosebump feeling, and I like, that he decided to perform this song. So, does anybody know? Is this maybe Mick's influence/suggestion, born from this rewarmed relationship of the two of them?
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I want not know, who all read from a telepromter in a concert. I'm afraid, that I can lose complete interest in a long time hobby (going to concerts since September 1985).
I only saw this thing in person during shows by the late Frank Sinatra, late Sammy Davis jr., Barbra Streisand and someother, who I don't remember at this moment.
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It´s not trick - its just technical improvement. Woud you describe stage monitor for musician as "trick"? It´s just technical stuff which makes show better and gives musicians sort of "comfortable" feeling that they can get help when they simply forget the lyrics. It´s really like prompt in theater which does not make actor better or worse.
I would love to know different thing.... how many bands are playing with using click - for people who have no idea - it´s sort of metronome. Setlists from previous tours (which bpm numbers) suggests that RS use that technology too, but probably only band and crew knows that for sure.
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But dont forget that lightshow + video for screen is probably programed very precisely too....
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GasLightStreet
With so much material to know there's no issue with using a teleprompter. Hell, Michael Stipe used a music stand with sheet music on it so he could sing his own words.
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Ladykiller
Some guy told me, that Mick Jagger used also a teleprompter during a concert of the A Bigger Bang Tour. He was standing in one of the stage balconys and saw this from his place. I hope this is not true, because I would be disappointed in some kind of way.
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Ladykiller
I want not know, who all read from a telepromter in a concert. I'm afraid, that I can lose complete interest in a long time hobby (going to concerts since September 1985).
I only saw this thing in person during shows by the late Frank Sinatra, late Sammy Davis jr., Barbra Streisand and someother, who I don't remember at this moment.
Sometimes it's best not to know all the tricks that are being used, isn't it? Not really sure where I fall on the teleprompter subject but I do understand your point.
I know for a fact that, if my lead vocalist puts "I Need You Now" on the setlist for tonight's show, I'm going to be turning my notebook to the page with the lyrics for the song so I can do my part of the duet with her. If that song's not on the list, I may look at a couple of chord charts, but there won't be any lyric sheets used by me. At the wedding I played last weekend, the bride and groom requested "Sweethearts Together" and, since our vocalist knows of my love for the Stones, she figured I should sing it... On nine days notice. I read the lyrics from a sheet of paper and double checked before I left the house to make sure it was in the bag. No way I was going to remember those words on short notice. Note: I NAILED IT!
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Face it Keith is getting old and showing his age. After the life he's led i think it's quite obvious the past has caught up to him and his mind is slowly fading. Don't expect much more from Keith Richards.
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Face it Keith is getting old and showing his age. After the life he's led i think it's quite obvious the past has caught up to him and his mind is slowly fading. Don't expect much more from Keith Richards.
Oh brother.
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Face it Keith is getting old and showing his age. After the life he's led i think it's quite obvious the past has caught up to him and his mind is slowly fading. Don't expect much more from Keith Richards.
Oh brother.
Hes right latebloomer
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Face it Keith is getting old and showing his age. After the life he's led i think it's quite obvious the past has caught up to him and his mind is slowly fading. Don't expect much more from Keith Richards.
Oh brother.
Hes right latebloomer
Good Lawd.
No he's not.
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Some guy told me, that Mick Jagger used also a teleprompter during a concert of the A Bigger Bang Tour. He was standing in one of the stage balconys and saw this from his place. I hope this is not true, because I would be disappointed in some kind of way.
why are you dissapointed? In my opinion everything is OK if it helps the guys onstage.
When people earn so much money like the Stones with their shows, there is no need for such things, IMO! I like to prefer shows without any safety net. Everything should be perfect without any fake things.
I saw once Barbra Streisand live and she read every single word (songs & talk to the audience) from telepromters in front of her!! I felt very disappointed as I saw that.
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When people earn so much money like the Stones with their shows, there is no need for such things, IMO! I like to prefer shows without any safety net. Everything should be perfect without any fake things.
Maybe the teleprompter is good for him because this is a f*ckin beautiful performance on all levels. The pacing and tempo of the song is perfect for Keith to act out the lyrics. One of his best performances I have ever seen. The guitar interlude with Ronnie is also so great; with this actually being a little piece of music.Quote
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Which show did you notice Keith looking to his left during Can't Be Seen?
The one from Telaviv. You can see the teleprompter at about 2:55 on the screen, which convinced me, that there is really a teleprompter, he is looking at from time to time. Before that I had wondered, why he has this turn to the left and often looks into this direction. I have to say now, that in my memory, from the first time watching the video, he was more looking at it than I can see now, at my second time watching, but it's hard to tell, because in this video you can only see what is on the screen, which often shows something else and not Keith from the front. From what one can see, Keith needed the teleprompter more often towards the end here. Alltogether this Tel Aviv performance of the song is probably the one that I liked the most so far.
If you know, where the teleprompter is located, you can guess, when he is looking at it also in other videos:
During this truely beautiful (and beautifully filmed) performance of You Got the Silver I see him quickly look a few times on the teleprompter, often more like he wants to go sure that what he thinks comes next is really what comes next. Of course one can argue, if I'm right here, but that's how I see it. One time before "You got my heart", once before "Me feeling foolish" and a few times near the end. He often got confused with a few lines of the song during the recent years, but that doesn't happen now anymore, from what I have seen of the European gigs.
Sometimes it's a mixture of trying to remember on his own and stealing a glance like a cheating schoolboy. Quite charming in a way. As I said, I have never noticed this before this leg of the tour, which made me wonder, if his use of a teleprompter is new. I think one can argue, how often he uses it (not everyrhing that looks like a glance to the left infront of him might be atually directed to the teleprompter, but it happens quite frequently). And there is clearly one with something written on it in the first video I posted. Mind you, I know that Mick has been using a teleprompter for a while, but I wondered about Keith.
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I saw once Barbra Streisand live and she read every single word (songs & talk to the audience) from telepromters in front of her!!
Imagine that...
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