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caschimann
It´s funny and it´s for every show since IORR is existing:
The people who are physically there love the songs/performance.
The people who are at home and try to follow the show just by watching the videos made with mobile phones think they can judge by that a song not by note.
Wrong. And absurd!
It´s just crappy material gentlemen - stop to put your thumbs up or down just by looking at these nice but poor devices of a show reality which is soo different.
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DandelionPowderman
Good points, but they don't alter the fact that most of the time a cell phone recording is so poor that it is hard to judge a show by it.
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His Majesty
Lets put it this way, a whole lot of people enjoy or do not enjoy the band through many official and bootleg recordings of concerts they never attended.
Are their impressions only valid when they are positive?
It is ok to judge and either like not like a show from a recording. Also, not everyone hears the concert the same in the venue nor does everyone enjoy it.
In some ways a recording is actually a better way to hear the actual music as during a concert ears get bombarded with sound levels which make them behave differently, so much so that your perception of pitch can change. This is sometimes partly why some people in attendance would never notice that Keith flubbed the intro to Brown Sugar when he has done so.
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His Majesty
Lets put it this way, a whole lot of people enjoy or do not enjoy the band through many official and bootleg recordings of concerts they never attended.
Are their impressions only valid when they are positive?
It is ok to judge and either like not like a show from a recording. Also, not everyone hears the concert the same in the venue nor does everyone enjoy it.
In some ways a recording is actually a better way to hear the actual music as during a concert ears get bombarded with sound levels which make them behave differently, so much so that your perception of pitch can change. This is sometimes partly why some people in attendance would never notice that Keith flubbed the intro to Brown Sugar when he has done so.
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DandelionPowderman
And the audience recordings were never as good as being at the show...
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caschimann
All I talked about were verdicts by mobile-recordings.
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slewan
try it yourself – just listen to a recording of a show you've been to some years ago. Quite often you'll find striking differences between your memories and what actually happened!
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caschimann
It´s funny and it´s for every show since IORR is existing:
The people who are physically there love the songs/performance.
The people who are at home and try to follow the show just by watching the videos made with mobile phones think they can judge by that a song not by note.
Wrong. And absurd!
It´s just crappy material gentlemen - stop to put your thumbs up or down just by looking at these nice but poor devices of a show reality which is soo different.
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His Majesty
Lets put it this way, a whole lot of people enjoy or do not enjoy the band through many official and bootleg recordings of concerts they never attended.
Are their impressions only valid when they are positive?
It is ok to judge and either like not like a show from a recording. Also, not everyone hears the concert the same in the venue nor does everyone enjoy it.
In some ways a recording is actually a better way to hear the actual music as during a concert ears get bombarded with sound levels which make them behave differently, so much so that your perception of pitch can change. This is sometimes partly why some people in attendance would never notice that Keith flubbed the intro to Brown Sugar when he has done so.
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DandelionPowderman
And the audience recordings were never as good as being at the show...
Ok, this line of thinking means we are in no place to judge anything we did not attend ourselves. I mean even if you had the shittest view and placement to hear in a venue that trumps hearing the concert via a good recording.
All the years spent here judging Taylor in live 1969 - 1973 or any concerrts you did not attend has been a meaningless waste of time.
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Actually, in many cases these "inferior device" recordings are better than official concert films. ><
I don't need to have been there to hear that this was a pretty great rendition of the song. It's ok to say it's good via a video, no one will call you out for saying a positive from it.
Now, I could have been there and missed this due to being right at the back and having some drunk bastard beside me singing along completely out of time and tune.
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slewan
try it yourself – just listen to a recording of a show you've been to some years ago. Quite often you'll find striking differences between your memories and what actually happened!
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DandelionPowderman
And the audience recordings were never as good as being at the show...
Ok, this line of thinking means we are in no place to judge anything we did not attend ourselves. I mean even if you had the shittest view and placement to hear in a venue that trumps hearing the concert via a good recording.
All the years spent here judging Taylor in live 1969 - 1973 or any concerrts you did not attend has been a meaningless waste of time.
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Actually, in many cases these "inferior device" recordings are better than official concert films. ><
I don't need to have been there to hear that this was a pretty great rendition of the song. It's ok to say it's good via a video, no one will call you out for saying a positive from it.
Now, I could have been there and missed this due to being right at the back and having some drunk bastard beside me singing along completely out of time and tune.
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DandelionPowderman
And the audience recordings were never as good as being at the show...
Ok, this line of thinking means we are in no place to judge anything we did not attend ourselves. I mean even if you had the shittest view and placement to hear in a venue that trumps hearing the concert via a good recording.
All the years spent here judging Taylor in live 1969 - 1973 or any concerrts you did not attend has been a meaningless waste of time.
...
Actually, in many cases these "inferior device" recordings are better than official concert films. ><
I don't need to have been there to hear that this was a pretty great rendition of the song. It's ok to say it's good via a video, no one will call you out for saying a positive from it.
Now, I could have been there and missed this due to being right at the back and having some drunk bastard beside me singing along completely out of time and tune.
Just saying that it isn't the same...
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DandelionPowderman
And the audience recordings were never as good as being at the show...
Ok, this line of thinking means we are in no place to judge anything we did not attend ourselves. I mean even if you had the shittest view and placement to hear in a venue that trumps hearing the concert via a good recording.
All the years spent here judging Taylor in live 1969 - 1973 or any concerrts you did not attend has been a meaningless waste of time.
...
Actually, in many cases these "inferior device" recordings are better than official concert films. ><
I don't need to have been there to hear that this was a pretty great rendition of the song. It's ok to say it's good via a video, no one will call you out for saying a positive from it.
Now, I could have been there and missed this due to being right at the back and having some drunk bastard beside me singing along completely out of time and tune.
Just saying that it isn't the same...
So is EddieByword:
"Great points Maj, I went to Cardiff 1990 and actually found the whole thing a bit draining and was glad to get home.....however, when I got a decent boot of the show the first thing I said was "Wow, I hadn't realised they were so good....(also, as you say, hearing things - musicwise - I never heard at the show)."
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DandelionPowderman
It goes the other way around as well
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DandelionPowderman
It goes the other way around as well
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Stoneage
Maybe there are some psychological factors involved here as well? To go to a Rolling Stones show these days is a kind of investment. And you don't want a personal investment to go bad, do you?
So, maybe, there is a chance you will enhance your experience because you have invested so much in it? Just speculating....
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DandelionPowderman
And the audience recordings were never as good as being at the show...
Ok, this line of thinking means we are in no place to judge anything we did not attend ourselves. I mean even if you had the shittest view and placement to hear in a venue that trumps hearing the concert via a good recording.
All the years spent here judging Taylor in live 1969 - 1973 or any concerrts you did not attend has been a meaningless waste of time.
...
Actually, in many cases these "inferior device" recordings are better than official concert films. ><
I don't need to have been there to hear that this was a pretty great rendition of the song. It's ok to say it's good via a video, no one will call you out for saying a positive from it.
Now, I could have been there and missed this due to being right at the back and having some drunk bastard beside me singing along completely out of time and tune.
Just saying that it isn't the same...
So is EddieByword:
"Great points Maj, I went to Cardiff 1990 and actually found the whole thing a bit draining and was glad to get home.....however, when I got a decent boot of the show the first thing I said was "Wow, I hadn't realised they were so good....(also, as you say, hearing things - musicwise - I never heard at the show)."
So is EddieByword what?