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babyblue
The 81 tour was just smoking saw them 3 times in the USA.
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electricmud
Like RobertJohnson I saw three gigs in Germany ´82. At that time I already had the complete Hampton `81 concert on tape and tried to compare the gigs I attended with what I knew from Hampton.
I always had the impression that they were sloppier in Europe. But to be honest they started sloppy in the USA too and in Hampton they were at their peak. So the biggest surprise of all archive releases was Leeds 82 to me. We never had a really great boot from 1982 like Hampton and what I hear from that gig is the first time since 1982 that I really love a gig from that tour.
The biggest difference was the change of the saxplayer. Ernie Watts gave them a unique musical/lyrical touch on the US tour. A smooth touch. In a way the sound got a lyrical touch on some moments they had with Mick Taylor before (no discussion )
Gene Barge from the sixties avantgard Chicago blues scene has a total different style. Less melodic, more free jazzy or whatever. That made Leeds sound freshier/punkier/sloppier huwever you call it.
The change of the keyboarder hadn`t that influence (well not on THIS tour..).
By the way we had the impression that Ronnie didn`t look that good in 1982. Too many drugs?
And I`m so happy that I could see them in 1982.
Tom
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RobertJohnson
I saw three gigs in Germany in '82. The last show series of the genuine Rolling Stones. They were in good shape, great guitar work, and the interpretations of the songs changed again and again. Keith and Ronnie were active in creating new riffs and licks. The negative aspect of this creativity was the inequal quality of the shows. But that is Rock'n Roll. I like that more than the Vegas or musical character since '89.
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RobertJohnson
Yes, the last time I was satisfied with Chuck Leavell. He used to play piano in the background with some interesting melody lines on Angie or Beast of Burden, but he wasn't yet that orgy plink plonk man nowadays who's getting on my nerves permanently ..
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RobertJohnson
I saw three gigs in Germany in '82. The last show series of the genuine Rolling Stones. They were in good shape, great guitar work, and the interpretations of the songs changed again and again. Keith and Ronnie were active in creating new riffs and licks. The negative aspect of this creativity was the inequal quality of the shows. But that is Rock'n Roll. I like that more than the Vegas or musical character since '89.
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RobertJohnson
Yes, the last time I was satisfied with Chuck Leavell. He used to play piano in the background with some interesting melody lines on Angie or Beast of Burden, but he wasn't yet that orgy plink plonk man nowadays who's getting on my nerves permanently ..
Well if you`re satisfied with the piano that was Ian Stewart!! (sure you know..) To be correct: on grandpiano. They carried that thing around (not to forget to keep a grandpiano in tune at open air venues..).
The difference to later tours: Chuck was only on Hammond B3 and keys if I remember correct. So there are moments were the Hammond B3 is more present then in 1981 which I like.
Tom
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doba
They had Prince (L.A.) Iggy Pop, Van Halen (Orlando). Care to add more names?
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FanOfGRARBITW
Here's something that might make a good discussion topic if anyone's interested...
I saw the Stones in 1981. Between seeing them and seeing and hearing videos and bootlegs, I think the 1981 tour was pretty damn good. I recall reading some posts here a long time ago where some folks who'd had the privilege of seeing them in 81 and also in 82 in Europe. I would think that the European shows would be very similar to the American 81 shows, but those folks I mentioned talked like 1982 was very different in some ways from 81. Someone said something like the Stones were a different band by the time they hit Europe. Any thoughts from those who saw both tours?
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black n blue
I was there and thought it was good, Journey sucked!