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Worst song the Stones ever recorded. It's just awful.
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big4
I can't imagine what fans and general listeners thought when they first heard the SG album. Much of it must've sounded at times almost like a different band to many ears. I would imagine to the '60s Stones fans still around in '78 it reminded them somewhat of the mid-60s Stones. That sneering attitude, simple to the point songs. The tenderness found in the grooves of GHS-IORR-B&B was gone save for BoB and BTMMR, in the latter's case a tenderness built upon a sense of holding one's head up in the face of desperation. But the final track Shattered. I wonder if some people dropped the needle there first out of curiousity from the title or to hear how the Stones closed out their newest album.
The song's title, "Shattered" is intriguing probably some thought it would be funky sounding like Hot Stuff as well as "Fingerprint File" or maybe a short soul-inflected ballad snuck on at the end.
Instead the listener would've found the song wrapped up SG where it started on the streets of New York via a Paris recording studio. The song seems to comes from the point of view of a man walking the war zone of late '70s NYC giving a blow by blow account of experiences and encounters, a true exile on Main Street or maybe 42nd Street.
It's interesting that the band would pick up the narrative, if not, the sound on the opening track on ER. Mick in Shattered takes on the roll of Lou Reed but less fatalistic and sardonic, Mick's character sounds like he's actually on his way to Studio 54 or maybe Traamps, shaking his head in bemusement and astonishment of the sights and sounds he's encountering.
The poor soul of Miss You has decided to embrace his new found unattached status like a stranger in a strange land on Shattered and despite his personal condition and those surrounding him, just sort of going with it. Yeah, he's Shattered but he's beyond his pain or sadness now/ He's in the biggest city in the world the "American zone" as it implodes around him. But you know what-"Shi-doo-bee" he says because I mean what else can you say when you're "Shattered".
The music behind the lyrics is great with the phased guitar, Ronnie's b-string bends the weird reggae-new wave-country vibe of the sounds. Charlie and Bill provide just the right wobble.
Shattered is a stone-cold Stones classic.
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Stoneage
Stones goes punk. Not a great song, really. But it works well. A gritty groove. Nice guitars. Hasn't worked well live though since 81/82.
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24FPS
It's simply proved to be un-reproduceable on stage, but the sonic brilliance of the studio version is something to behold. The Stones had a big canvas and they did 1978 New York City proud with this album and Shattered in particular. 'People dressed in plastic pants, directing traffic'. They sum up Manhattan and just being a Rolling Stone with the flatter, flatter, flatter at the end.
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Mick dating New York fashion models means ...
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big4
I can't imagine what fans and general listeners thought when they first heard the SG album.
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Mick dating New York fashion models means ...
But but but Keith wrote this one, including most of the lyrics.
He's dated his share of models too you know! :E
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I remember the first time I heard it quite vividly and it still gives me goosebumps.
I was living in a farfetched place where the media were heavily censored and once a month
one late-night radio program would play an album in its entirety. So we were lying in bed in the dark
and this album came on like a great huge brilliantly-hued gloriously exotic strong wild & muscular bird
soaring and swooping around the room in stunning magnificence. Breathtaking!
No one had expected that! Especially given all that the band had been going through.
Just absolutely glorious. Pile it up - pile it high on the platter - speechless.
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Title5Take1
Mick dating New York fashion models means ...
But but but Keith wrote this one, including most of the lyrics.
He's dated his share of models too you know! :E
No that's not correct -Keith had the sha-doo-bie line, all the rest is Jagger.
Anyway -brilliant track! The album version is quite experimental for the Stones, while the live version is a fabulous rocker in 81/82. Unfortunately, the way they play it since 1989 has nothing to do with the original intention. Now they play it too slow and without a groove.
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Title5Take1
Mick dating New York fashion models means ...
But but but Keith wrote this one, including most of the lyrics.
He's dated his share of models too you know! :E
No that's not correct -Keith had the sha-doo-bie line, all the rest is Jagger.
Anyway -brilliant track! The album version is quite experimental for the Stones, while the live version is a fabulous rocker in 81/82. Unfortunately, the way they play it since 1989 has nothing to do with the original intention. Now they play it too slow and without a groove.
Mathijs
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shattered
Told they would never do this live again.
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Title5Take1
Mick dating New York fashion models means ...
But but but Keith wrote this one, including most of the lyrics.
He's dated his share of models too you know! :E
No that's not correct -Keith had the sha-doo-bie line, all the rest is Jagger.
Anyway -brilliant track! The album version is quite experimental for the Stones, while the live version is a fabulous rocker in 81/82. Unfortunately, the way they play it since 1989 has nothing to do with the original intention. Now they play it too slow and without a groove.
Mathijs
Is it true?? Keith only came up with the sha-doo-bie line? What about the chords, or the riffs? None of that?
What a bummer...not that I care too much, but over the years especially the music portion I'd associated with Keith. Oh well.
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Title5Take1
Mick dating New York fashion models means ...
But but but Keith wrote this one, including most of the lyrics.
He's dated his share of models too you know! :E
No that's not correct -Keith had the sha-doo-bie line, all the rest is Jagger.
Anyway -brilliant track! The album version is quite experimental for the Stones, while the live version is a fabulous rocker in 81/82. Unfortunately, the way they play it since 1989 has nothing to do with the original intention. Now they play it too slow and without a groove.
Mathijs
Is it true?? Keith only came up with the sha-doo-bie line? What about the chords, or the riffs? None of that?
What a bummer...not that I care too much, but over the years especially the music portion I'd associated with Keith. Oh well.
All the chords and the guitar-themes were written by Keith. Mathijs means that Keith didn't have anything to do with the lyrics.