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Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: March 31, 2014 18:20

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NEWMAN
HARDCORE PERFECT TUNE

ZZ Top rip off.

Not even sure if Ze Top, as they're known in France, were even going in 72??

Yep, the Top were formed in '69; first album came out January '71. The song "La Grange" was released in '73, so arguably they were ripping off Slim or even the Stones.

Drew

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: March 31, 2014 18:27

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Hey Doxa, come on amigo. No need to get angry because of a few idiots out there. We still need your well considered critical faculties. Been looking forward to what you really think about this one.

Thanks, but I feel like the function of this site is something else than I once thought (been wrong some 15 years). The moderator has made it rather clear that the idea is to offer info about the recent Stones activities and to "discuss" about that. And then not to spread "gossips" and "speculations". So the idea of discussing - that is, in the very sense of the word - about the music, and the Stones activities in the past, and probably in the future - is something that has not much point or room here. Let's say, I'm not a right kind of fan, or, actually, a fan at all.

Yeah, I do love "Shake Your Hips" but to say why includes also a hint why I don't consider some of their other doings as high, so that would be, in the end, 'nay-saying', which shouldn't belong to the arsenal of a 'real' fan. You see, this is 'self-moderating'.

This used to be fun, but it is not any longer. You know, discussing music freely. Like one adult to another. But we all get old, and probably I am getting tired too, and can't any longer stand the atmosphere I feel I have lately more and more have difficulties to cope with. So, let me diplomatically say I feel happy for the 'cheerleader section' - let they have their field day now!. They, with the authoritian guide of the moderator, have won!

But you know, I have bullshitted here so much during the last 15 years or so, that there aren't actually much left to say.... So me being a bit more silent for some time wouldn't hurt much, probably better so... grinning smiley

- Doxa



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2014-03-31 18:47 by Doxa.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: March 31, 2014 19:04

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Doxa

So the idea of discussing - that is, in the very sense of the word - about the music, and the Stones activities in the past, and probably in the future - is something that has not much point or room here. Let's say, I'm not a right kinf of fan, or, actually, a fan at all.

Yeah, I do love "Shake Your Hips" but to say why includes also a hint why I don't consider some of their other doings as high, so that would be, in the end, 'nay-saying', which shouldn't belong to the arsenal of a 'real' fan. You see, this is 'self-moderating'.

This used to be fun, but it is not any longer. You know, discussing music freely. Like one adult to another. But we all get old, and probably I am getting tired too, and can't any longer stand the atmosphere I feel I have lately more and more have difficulties to cope with. So, let me diplomatically say I feel happy for the 'cheerleader section' - let they have their field day now!. They, with the authoritian guide of the moderator, have won!

- Doxa

I beg to disagree here Doxa. I can understand what you mean, but discussing the music freely is as far as I know not any issue at all. Let the cheerleaders alone, they're not worth reading or reacting. The whole 'private matter' issue has had some strange effect here, but don't let it influence you too much. This band has a history since 1963 and every period is important. The whole 'fan' issue is a non issue, something for people under 20 years old. It's all about the music and what influences it. So of course we'll curious how and at which degree the recent events will have an impact on the band.

It seems our pal Dandie has gone (temporarily?) too, I don't know why, him being a super positivo. As for me, I love the presence of Dandie, His Majesty and other great posters, amongst whom yourself of course.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: March 31, 2014 19:07

Doxa, it'll be a really boring site if the yea-sayers win and we all stay off. Criticism is good and keeps alive a good debate which is, after all, why we all came here in the first place. Without a contra stance we don't have a debate and it becomes a case of the emperor's new clothes.

As they used to say in the wild west, 'keep your pecker up'!

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 31, 2014 19:15

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What the hell is matter what does it sounds like? It is recorded some 43 years ago, while I was some 4 years old, and the point to be a Rolling Stones fan and contribute in this site is is "to be as close as possible to The Rolling Stones or a Rolling Stone". This track is something dead years old, recorded damn faraway where I live, and it has nothing to do with the Rolling Stones are today, as they are ought be as a an object of fandom, and thereby, discussion, so who cares.

It is just music, just music, yesterday's papers.

Now, isn't the "report this message" an tempting option, you REAL Rolling Stones fans?

Oh yeah, sorry I forget to say... Of course, it is a "great" track - like anything The Rolling Stones have done. And ever will do. I just love Justin Biev... oh sorry.. The Rolling Stones... blah blah blah.. kill teh nay say-sayers (million emoticons), etc. etc.

- Doxa

What triggered this? confused smiley

Well I hope my little joke didn't!

I think everyone got a bit sensitive after last week, but I'll defend to my last breath the right to complain about those damn rolling stones, ticket prices, set lists, weak Keith ballads, the fact that Bridges to Babylon is an overrated album, notwithstanding Saint of Me is still a breath of fresh air.

There's plenty more bad stuff too...I can never understand why they are far and away my favourite band.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 31, 2014 19:16

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Doxa

So the idea of discussing - that is, in the very sense of the word - about the music, and the Stones activities in the past, and probably in the future - is something that has not much point or room here. Let's say, I'm not a right kinf of fan, or, actually, a fan at all.

Yeah, I do love "Shake Your Hips" but to say why includes also a hint why I don't consider some of their other doings as high, so that would be, in the end, 'nay-saying', which shouldn't belong to the arsenal of a 'real' fan. You see, this is 'self-moderating'.

This used to be fun, but it is not any longer. You know, discussing music freely. Like one adult to another. But we all get old, and probably I am getting tired too, and can't any longer stand the atmosphere I feel I have lately more and more have difficulties to cope with. So, let me diplomatically say I feel happy for the 'cheerleader section' - let they have their field day now!. They, with the authoritian guide of the moderator, have won!

- Doxa

I beg to disagree here Doxa. I can understand what you mean, but discussing the music freely is as far as I know not any issue at all. Let the cheerleaders alone, they're not worth reading or reacting. The whole 'private matter' issue has had some strange effect here, but don't let it influence you too much. This band has a history since 1963 and every period is important. The whole 'fan' issue is a non issue, something for people under 20 years old. It's all about the music and what influences it. So of course we'll curious how and at which degree the recent events will have an impact on the band.

It seems our pal Dandie has gone (temporarily?) too, I don't know why, him being a super positivo. As for me, I love the presence of Dandie, His Majesty and other great posters, amongst whom yourself of course.

Yeah, it seemed Dandie got quite fed up last week. I even appealed to Doxa in a different thread to contact his buddy to bring him back.

Seems Doxa is suffering a similar malaise!

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: March 31, 2014 19:33

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Doxa

So the idea of discussing - that is, in the very sense of the word - about the music, and the Stones activities in the past, and probably in the future - is something that has not much point or room here. Let's say, I'm not a right kinf of fan, or, actually, a fan at all.

Yeah, I do love "Shake Your Hips" but to say why includes also a hint why I don't consider some of their other doings as high, so that would be, in the end, 'nay-saying', which shouldn't belong to the arsenal of a 'real' fan. You see, this is 'self-moderating'.

This used to be fun, but it is not any longer. You know, discussing music freely. Like one adult to another. But we all get old, and probably I am getting tired too, and can't any longer stand the atmosphere I feel I have lately more and more have difficulties to cope with. So, let me diplomatically say I feel happy for the 'cheerleader section' - let they have their field day now!. They, with the authoritian guide of the moderator, have won!

- Doxa

I beg to disagree here Doxa. I can understand what you mean, but discussing the music freely is as far as I know not any issue at all. Let the cheerleaders alone, they're not worth reading or reacting. The whole 'private matter' issue has had some strange effect here, but don't let it influence you too much. This band has a history since 1963 and every period is important. The whole 'fan' issue is a non issue, something for people under 20 years old. It's all about the music and what influences it. So of course we'll curious how and at which degree the recent events will have an impact on the band.

It seems our pal Dandie has gone (temporarily?) too, I don't know why, him being a super positivo. As for me, I love the presence of Dandie, His Majesty and other great posters, amongst whom yourself of course.

Yeah, it seemed Dandie got quite fed up last week. I even appealed to Doxa in a different thread to contact his buddy to bring him back.

Seems Doxa is suffering a similar malaise!

It's probably the Northern Disease.

But hey, speak for yourself: I didn't get a tiny "bit sensitive after last week". It takes much more than that to make my hips shake.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: March 31, 2014 19:47

Anyone have the early version, with a lead guitar, playing for another minute til the band ends it?

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I think I've found it.






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-03-31 19:50 by MingSubu.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: March 31, 2014 20:07

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"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 31, 2014 20:09

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Doxa

So the idea of discussing - that is, in the very sense of the word - about the music, and the Stones activities in the past, and probably in the future - is something that has not much point or room here. Let's say, I'm not a right kinf of fan, or, actually, a fan at all.

Yeah, I do love "Shake Your Hips" but to say why includes also a hint why I don't consider some of their other doings as high, so that would be, in the end, 'nay-saying', which shouldn't belong to the arsenal of a 'real' fan. You see, this is 'self-moderating'.

This used to be fun, but it is not any longer. You know, discussing music freely. Like one adult to another. But we all get old, and probably I am getting tired too, and can't any longer stand the atmosphere I feel I have lately more and more have difficulties to cope with. So, let me diplomatically say I feel happy for the 'cheerleader section' - let they have their field day now!. They, with the authoritian guide of the moderator, have won!

- Doxa

I beg to disagree here Doxa. I can understand what you mean, but discussing the music freely is as far as I know not any issue at all. Let the cheerleaders alone, they're not worth reading or reacting. The whole 'private matter' issue has had some strange effect here, but don't let it influence you too much. This band has a history since 1963 and every period is important. The whole 'fan' issue is a non issue, something for people under 20 years old. It's all about the music and what influences it. So of course we'll curious how and at which degree the recent events will have an impact on the band.

It seems our pal Dandie has gone (temporarily?) too, I don't know why, him being a super positivo. As for me, I love the presence of Dandie, His Majesty and other great posters, amongst whom yourself of course.

Yeah, it seemed Dandie got quite fed up last week. I even appealed to Doxa in a different thread to contact his buddy to bring him back.

Seems Doxa is suffering a similar malaise!

It's probably the Northern Disease.

But hey, speak for yourself: I didn't get a tiny "bit sensitive after last week". It takes much more than that to make my hips shake.

yes, but you're so kleer-thinking though, not like the rest of us boobs.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: big4 ()
Date: March 31, 2014 22:15

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Anyone have the early version, with a lead guitar, playing for another minute til the band ends it?

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I think I've found it.



I've always preferred this version to the Exile one. It's looser and swings more. I just think the Exile version is flat sounding. I don't hate it but to me Shake Your Hips is the weakest track on side 1. They should've kept the feel of the outtake.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: March 31, 2014 23:58

SHAKE YOU HIPS...............................





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Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: frtg55 ()
Date: April 1, 2014 00:40

I love playing them this grooving swinging boogie!

One of my many favourits on EXILE, witch made the album so special.

In first place this is the "John Lee Hooker - Style"

John Lee is to honor first, after that we can discuss La Grange, too ...

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 1, 2014 00:44

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Anyone have the early version, with a lead guitar, playing for another minute til the band ends it?

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I think I've found it.



I've always preferred this version to the Exile one. It's looser and swings more. I just think the Exile version is flat sounding. I don't hate it but to me Shake Your Hips is the weakest track on side 1. They should've kept the feel of the outtake.

Wow...never heard this one before. I also like it better.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: April 1, 2014 01:00

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Anyone have the early version, with a lead guitar, playing for another minute til the band ends it?

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I think I've found it.



I've always preferred this version to the Exile one. It's looser and swings more. I just think the Exile version is flat sounding. I don't hate it but to me Shake Your Hips is the weakest track on side 1. They should've kept the feel of the outtake.

Wow...never heard this one before. I also like it better.

Good, but I'll stick wih the Exile version. It feels just fine and it leaves me wanting more...

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: April 1, 2014 01:30

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Side one of Exile on Main Street is as perfect a sequence of songs as you'll ever find on any album. They spell P-A-R-T-Y T-I-M-E large and from Rocks Off to Tumbling Dice we're taken on a rock'n'roller coaster ride across the southern states of America.

And Hip Shake is the pivotal connecting piece of the jigsaw, joining the Stones' own take on southern boogie and juke joint soul to a classic slice of r'n'b that just scratches and shakes its way through these sultry grooves.

And ain't that just an incredible rhythm Keith gets going here. It's tight but loose, funky but chic. It's a riff that could happily go on for ages (and probably did) allowing Mick Taylor room to roam and push the song ever onwards.

It's also so evocative of the deep south that you can almost smell the bourbon on Keith's breath and perhaps even the chicken fried in bacon grease cooking in the next room. Rock'n'roll doesn't get much better than this.

This, all of it.

Love love love this song!


Oops, sorry to be a cheerleader. I can't help it if I like it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-04-01 01:32 by Aquamarine.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: April 1, 2014 01:31

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Anyone have the early version, with a lead guitar, playing for another minute til the band ends it?

edit:
I think I've found it.



I've always preferred this version to the Exile one. It's looser and swings more. I just think the Exile version is flat sounding. I don't hate it but to me Shake Your Hips is the weakest track on side 1. They should've kept the feel of the outtake.

Wow...never heard this one before. I also like it better.

Good, but I'll stick wih the Exile version. It feels just fine and it leaves me wanting more...

I agree it's a great version but just for us Stones fans.........I also love the Exile version better...the song sound more complete....

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Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: April 1, 2014 03:10

Shake Your Hips is one of those sublime stoner heroin groove tracks. It grooves and slinks like a snake wrapping around your brain lulling you into a hypnotic stupor. The guitars are glorious testimonies to Slim Hapo. Charlie's rim shots are like bullets pumped into a shot-gun shack. And Mick. Whew what a wonderful delivery, drawling with a sinuous sleaze with a sly wink to how sexualized he is, idolizing those shaking hips. Grinding drawl of perfection. And his harp is icing on the cake. Let it bleed baby.



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Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Date: April 1, 2014 13:05

Together with I Got The Blues and Casino Boogie, this track is maybe the Stones track with the best interplay between Taylor and Keith.

It's one of my definite favourites. There aren't many bands that can be as authentic-sounding as the Stones at their best.

I like the Exile-version the most - simply because the balance between the guitars takes it to greater heights. The outtake (as well as the Montreux-version) loses some of that effect, because of more Keith-soloing, imo.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: April 1, 2014 13:40

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But you know, I have bullshitted here so much during the last 15 years or so, that there aren't actually much left to say.... So me being a bit more silent for some time wouldn't hurt much, probably better so... grinning smiley

- Doxa

I am not sure I understand which conflict(s) you are referring to, I don't come here that regularly, but I always read your comments about the music with pleasure and interest. I thought your analysis were often spot on and insightful.
Just my 2 cents.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 1, 2014 17:07

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Together with I Got The Blues and Casino Boogie, this track is maybe the Stones track with the best interplay between Taylor and Keith.

It's one of my definite favourites. There aren't many bands that can be as authentic-sounding as the Stones at their best.

I like the Exile-version the most - simply because the balance between the guitars takes it to greater heights. The outtake (as well as the Montreux-version) loses some of that effect, because of more Keith-soloing, imo.

ok, and welcome back.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: Floorbird ()
Date: April 1, 2014 23:01

I always thought ZZ Top was a John Lee Hooker cover band.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: nomis ()
Date: April 1, 2014 23:27

I give full credit to the Stones for turning me on to Slim Harpo. I liked the track enough that I wanted to dig into it more deeply and get the original. The Stones used to be able to do that pretty regularly. A testament to a great band.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: EJM ()
Date: April 1, 2014 23:50

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But you know, I have bullshitted here so much during the last 15 years or so, that there aren't actually much left to say.... So me being a bit more silent for some time wouldn't hurt much, probably better so... grinning smiley

- Doxa

I am not sure I understand which conflict(s) you are referring to, I don't come here that regularly, but I always read your comments about the music with pleasure and interest. I thought your analysis were often spot on and insightful.
Just my 2 cents.

Re: Track Talk: Shake Your Hips
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: June 24, 2021 16:06

Just listened to the outtake with fresh ears and wow, what a jam. There is a part near the end where Bobby Keys (left) and Taylor (right) play the same riff that Jagger is repeating on harmonica. Pretty cool.

Also, I think it’s safe to say Ian Stewart is not on any version official or bootleg.

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