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<Poor Mick T. Can't catch a break on the writing credits.>

He he, that was the Stevei Wonder track, right? Good one!

That one, and other called "I'm Going Down".

- Doxa

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<Poor Mick T. Can't catch a break on the writing credits.>

He he, that was the Stevei Wonder track, right? Good one!

The Oldham/Richards penned "I'd Much Rather Be With The Boys" is probably the wors track the Stones ever released.

Jiving Sister Fanny, I Don't Know Why and Don't Lie To Me are the best tracks. Family has outrageous lyrics and Downtown Suzie is fun, without being nowhere near good, imo.

A mixed bag of outtakes and songs they wrote for other artists.

I think Jimmy Page is playing on the Heart Of Stone version. John Mc Laughlin is also playing on the album.

I'm Going Down is great! Wasn't Taylor credited on that one too?

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I'm Going Down is great! Wasn't Taylor credited on that one too?

Yes to both sentences.

- Doxa

It would be interesting to know how can one mistakenly add Taylor's name on two tracks? Where the hell that name derived from? Funny accidents happen...

- Doxa

Especially I'm going down, an unfinished song with a Keith riff, unfinished lyrics/melody and nothing else! Did Taylor have anything to do with it at all?

I have the reissue with the correct credits.

I absolutely LOVE Im Going Down, Jiving Sister Fanny and I Don't Know Why. They just effortlessly rocked and grooved back then, A side, b side, album track or throwaway, didn't matter.

Love them all myself, although IGD only is interesting for a minute or so...

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Especially I'm going down, an unfinished song with a Keith riff, unfinished lyrics/melody and nothing else! Did Taylor have anything to do with it at all?

I have the reissue with the correct credits.

You must be lucky then. I wish I had some day all the Stones records with all the "correct" credits in them... But isn't beautiful that they at least sometimes "correct" the creditions...

- Doxa

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I have the reissue with the correct credits.

Since you have the correct credits, could you please check what it says of "Don't Lie to Me"? WikiPedia claims it is credited to Hudson Whittaker, but also says that it is "incorrectly credited to Jagger/Richard on the album". With "I Don't Know Why" it says that it "incorrectly credited to J/R in the first pressing of the album". Is "Don't Lie To Me" still J/R?

I don't see any legal reason to change the credition due to song's history, but it if they really did it, I think that is a high class act from their side.

- Doxa



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He he, I meant IGD and IDKW

DLTM is wrongly credited Jagger/Richard...

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I have the reissue with the correct credits.

Since you have the correct credits, could you please check what it says of "Don't Lie to Me"? WikiPedia claims it is credited to Hudson Whittaker, but also says that it is "incorrectly credited to Jagger/Richard on the album". With "I Don't Know Why" it says that it "incorrectly credited to J/R in the first pressing of the album". Is "Don't Lie To Me" still J/R?

I don't see any legal reason to change the credition due to song's history, but it if they really did it, I think that is a high class act from their side.

- Doxa

If memory serves, I have a Chuck album where DLTM is credited to him as well - just to add to the "confusion" around this song

What does the credits say on The Chess Sessions again? I don't have it here...

Andrew Oldham did a lot of (in my opinion sacrilegious) re-production for those tracks, first for that failed Necrophilia-project, later for Metamorphosis. He used a handful of (uncredited) studio musicians (Christine Ohlman, Jon Tiven, Doug Schlink, Vic Steffens, Paul Ossola and maybe even more) for overdubs, all done at Trod Nossel Studios (Connecticut) around 1973 - early 1975. These musicians were not only adding instruments, but also replacing some of the original instruments (played by Stones-members)! Not much on this album is what it seems...

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Andrew Oldham did a lot of (in my opinion sacrilegious) re-production for those tracks, first for that failed Necrophilia-project, later for Metamorphosis. He used a handful of (uncredited) studio musicians (Christine Ohlman, Jon Tiven, Doug Schlink, Vic Steffens, Paul Ossola and maybe even more) for overdubs, all done at Trod Nossel Studios (Connecticut) around 1973 - early 1975. These musicians were not only adding instruments, but also replacing some of the original instruments (played by Stones-members)! Not much on this album is what it seems...

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Nah, not on side B, the actual stones tracks.

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John Mc Laughlin is also playing on the album.

There is only speculation about that. All he said about it is coming from one interview (as far as I know).

Q:
When did you play with the Rolling Stones? Did you enjoy working with them?

JM:
Only on a session with Mick, who was a nice person. No pretentions, but the recording was just another session for me at that time.

[blogs.dallasobserver.com]

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John Mc Laughlin is also playing on the album.

There is only speculation about that. All he said about it is coming from one interview (as far as I know).

Q:
When did you play with the Rolling Stones? Did you enjoy working with them?

JM:
Only on a session with Mick, who was a nice person. No pretentions, but the recording was just another session for me at that time.

[blogs.dallasobserver.com]

As we don't have detaliled liner notes for Metamorphosis, this is all we got.

Could be a session that wasn't used for anything - could be this one...

"Don't You Lie To Me" (credited to Berry) cut April 1960 Chess,Chicago.
Berry voc/guitar,L.C.Davis tenor,unkn saxes,Johnny Johnson piano,Matt Murphy guitar,Eddie Hardy drums. released on Chess LP 1456

other tracks cut on same sessions: Drifting Blues, I Got To Find My Baby,Worried Life Blues,Our Little Rendezvous,Bye Bye Johnny,Run Around,Jaguer and Thunderbird. (info from "Chuck Berry's Golden Decade Vol. 2" 1972 GRT Corp.

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Andrew Oldham did a lot of (in my opinion sacrilegious) re-production for those tracks, first for that failed Necrophilia-project, later for Metamorphosis. He used a handful of (uncredited) studio musicians (Christine Ohlman, Jon Tiven, Doug Schlink, Vic Steffens, Paul Ossola and maybe even more) for overdubs, all done at Trod Nossel Studios (Connecticut) around 1973 - early 1975. These musicians were not only adding instruments, but also replacing some of the original instruments (played by Stones-members)! Not much on this album is what it seems...

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Nah, not on side B, the actual stones tracks.

That's exactly what I thought at first.
But check this link for details:

[aeppli.ch]

(These infos are basing on interviews with some of the partaking musicians.)

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All I see from the later period is Jon Tiven claiming that he and a piano player/drummer did overdubs on Jiving Sister Fanny. While possible, Tiven is not really an unimpeachable source. If this happened, I doubt any of the Stones noticed or I don't think they would have approved it. The slight overdubs done to the earlier demo sessions would not have offended.

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Andrew Oldham did a lot of (in my opinion sacrilegious) re-production for those tracks, first for that failed Necrophilia-project, later for Metamorphosis. He used a handful of (uncredited) studio musicians (Christine Ohlman, Jon Tiven, Doug Schlink, Vic Steffens, Paul Ossola and maybe even more) for overdubs, all done at Trod Nossel Studios (Connecticut) around 1973 - early 1975. These musicians were not only adding instruments, but also replacing some of the original instruments (played by Stones-members)! Not much on this album is what it seems...

N

Nah, not on side B, the actual stones tracks.

That's exactly what I thought at first.
But check this link for details:

[aeppli.ch]

(These infos are basing on interviews with some of the partaking musicians.)

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Ok, burn it!

The last song on the album "I'm going down" sounds a bit like "Soul Survivor" to me.

All in all, one of my indispensable Rolling Stones albums actually.

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The last song on the album "I'm going down" sounds a bit like "Soul Survivor" to me.

All in all, one of my indispensable Rolling Stones albums actually.

It sounds like a lot of things because it uses the classic Keith open G chord shapes. In some ways the chrod progression is as interesting as Brown Sugar or Soul Survivor. Too bad they didn't finish it. It's really fun to play on guitar.

A must have album in my opinion. A lot of hiden gems in it

Flamin' Groovies did "Don't you lie to me" as well.

[www.amazon.com]

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There is only speculation about that. All he said about it is coming from one interview (as far as I know).

Q:
When did you play with the Rolling Stones? Did you enjoy working with them?

JM:
Only on a session with Mick, who was a nice person. No pretentions, but the recording was just another session for me at that time.

[blogs.dallasobserver.com]

Amsterdamned/svt22's new moniker.

Elvin Bishop does a cover of "Don't Lie To Me" too.

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There is only speculation about that. All he said about it is coming from one interview (as far as I know).

Q:
When did you play with the Rolling Stones? Did you enjoy working with them?

JM:
Only on a session with Mick, who was a nice person. No pretentions, but the recording was just another session for me at that time.

[blogs.dallasobserver.com]

Amsterdamned/svt22's new moniker.

I like Amsterdamned more. Taylor doesn't even play on Luxury, a very mediocre and repetitive song by the way.

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There is only speculation about that. All he said about it is coming from one interview (as far as I know).

Q:
When did you play with the Rolling Stones? Did you enjoy working with them?

JM:
Only on a session with Mick, who was a nice person. No pretentions, but the recording was just another session for me at that time.

[blogs.dallasobserver.com]

Amsterdamned/svt22's new moniker.

I like Amsterdamned more. Taylor doesn't even play on Luxury, a very mediocre and repetitive song by the way.

LOL!

kleerie, it's a great song

And reggae-flavoured songs are supposed to be repetitive...



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Come On
This was an early collection of treasures not released, and in the same year as Dylans Basement Tapes which were bootlegged since 1969 and well-known for every hardcord Dylan-fan...that was not the matter with Metamorphosis while that one were very wellcome and a enjoyable listen to 'new songs'...this two album started up this thing with released older stuff for real even if it took even worser proportions with the CD-boxes era...

Metamorphosis is a killer...

i agree !!!

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Come On
This was an early collection of treasures not released, and in the same year as Dylans Basement Tapes which were bootlegged since 1969 and well-known for every hardcord Dylan-fan...that was not the matter with Metamorphosis while that one were very wellcome and a enjoyable listen to 'new songs'...this two album started up this thing with released older stuff for real even if it took even worser proportions with the CD-boxes era...

Metamorphosis is a killer...

i agree !!!

Unfortunately, one of my most favorite songs (OOT) ever is slanted if not vilified on this Album. Let me put it another way, This collection aint no "Flowers."