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windmelody
His drumming used to be very good but the man always gave the impression of beeing a neurotic moron.
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Torres
So different from all the politically correct shit we read all the time.
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Torres
Actually I find the interview quite interesting and there are some funny moments. The man has nothing to lose and says what he wants. So different from all the politically correct shit we read all the time.
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stonehearted
It's easy to see why John "Rotten" Lydon likes him so much.
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It's easy to see why John "Rotten" Lydon likes him so much.
I'm guessing that feeling isn't mutual.
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stonehearted
It's easy to see why John "Rotten" Lydon likes him so much.
I'm guessing that feeling isn't mutual.
Don't be so sure about that: Baker thought enough of him to play on PIL's Album.
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stonehearted
It's easy to see why John "Rotten" Lydon likes him so much.
I'm guessing that feeling isn't mutual.
Don't be so sure about that: Baker thought enough of him to play on PIL's Album.
Yes, and according to Lydon they got on splendidly together. Here's an excerpt fron a 2007 online interview with Lydon where he answers questions posted by fans:
In 1981, when PiL were on their fifth drummer in 18 months, the NME ran an
April Fool news story about Ginger Baker joining the band. Was that why you hired him five years later?
Chris Cowan
Ha ha! Actually, I'm not keen on these spoof stories. I hear at least two about me every year. They might start out as some drunk arse having a wheeze, but it ends up being disruptive, like all gossip. The worst thing is that people often believe them! Anyway, Ginger Baker was an absolutely smashing bloke, as was everyone on Album. Steve Vai, Ravi Shankar, Ryuichi Sakamoto - we came together as friends. There was more talk than there was actual play, which was very important. And the late, great Tony Williams [legendary Miles Davis drummer] what a fantastic, wonderful human being. It's a shame that his music still isn't really appreciated. People don't know how to listen to humanity.
Full interview at: [www.johnlydon.com]
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NoCode0680
That only makes his comments about The Stones funnier and contradictory. Or does he think the Sex Pistols were top notch jazz musicians?
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That only makes his comments about The Stones funnier and contradictory. Or does he think the Sex Pistols were top notch jazz musicians?
Jazz in spirit--at least where PiL are concerned. I think Baker probably appreciates that Lydon is as anti-rock n roll as he is.
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NoCode0680
I think Ginger should say what he REALLY thinks. If past interviews I've seen with him are any indicator, sour grapes over how much many they make (like his sour grapes over Bruce/Brown royalties) might play a part in that.
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NoCode0680
I think Ginger should say what he REALLY thinks. If past interviews I've seen with him are any indicator, sour grapes over how much many they make (like his sour grapes over Bruce/Brown royalties) might play a part in that.
Yes, possibly. Also, like many players of his caliber and genre, he could resent the fact that a form of music that requires less talent--hell, even no talent--becomes infinitely more popular than the music he loves.
Then again, regarding money, Ginger has historically been reckless when it comes to holding on to it, having gone flat broke several times over the years. The Cream reunion tour of 2005 netted him $5 million USD, and by 2010 it was all gone.
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NoCode0680
I've read, and this may be according to him, that he's been ripped off a few times over the years. Not that he's been very conservative with his money and only went broke because of being ripped off, but that he has had quite a bit stolen.
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doster
What a ray of sunshine! I feel sorry for the interviewer.
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strat72
Baker has always been a grumpy person! Why should he start pretending to be something he is not? He doesn't like The Stones..... So what!
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strat72
Baker has always been a grumpy person! Why should he start pretending to be something he is not? He doesn't like The Stones..... So what!
That's all there is to say.
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Max'sKansasCity
Well that does it... from now on I am picking Mary Ann in the "Ginger versus Mary Ann debate"... Ginger was always kind of grumpy.
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Max'sKansasCity
Well that does it... from now on I am picking Mary Ann in the "Ginger versus Mary Ann debate"... Ginger was always kind of grumpy.
Mary Ann is the correct answer anyway.
I won't go within 10 miles of Gilligans Island anyway. The Mosquitos were the only decent musicians there.