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Wroclaw
Bill had/has his style but I must admit that I've started paying attention to his "uniqueness" only after reading an article about him, describing his pioneering work and contribution for the R&R style bass playing. Its only AFTER this stage that I started noticing his superb bass support especially in certain live recordings where he is high on the mix (like L&G from 1972 - the legendary GS led by MT with all 3 rytem section players at their best).
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Wroclaw
Bill had/has his style but I must admit that I've started paying attention to his "uniqueness" only after reading an article about him, describing his pioneering work and contribution for the R&R style bass playing. Its only AFTER this stage that I started noticing his superb bass support especially in certain live recordings where he is high on the mix (like L&G from 1972 - the legendary GS led by MT with all 3 rytem section players at their best).
Do you have a link to the article? I'd love to read it
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crholmstrom
Bill's a great bass player. Supposedly he was given the opportunity to come back more than once but declined because of travel. Daryl does a good job. It all comes down to who Charlie wants to play with, as it should.
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crholmstrom
Bill's a great bass player. Supposedly he was given the opportunity to come back more than once but declined because of travel. Daryl does a good job. It all comes down to who Charlie wants to play with, as it should.
As saying "Bill" is much easier and shorter than saying "Daryl" I suspect Charlie REALLY prefers DJ over BW... had they been equal he would have chosen the one whose names had less Syllable...
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crholmstrom
Bill's a great bass player. Supposedly he was given the opportunity to come back more than once but declined because of travel. Daryl does a good job. It all comes down to who Charlie wants to play with, as it should.
As saying "Bill" is much easier and shorter than saying "Daryl" I suspect Charlie REALLY prefers DJ over BW... had they been equal he would have chosen the one whose names had less Syllable...
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duke richardson
yeah I miss his playing too. full of personality, groove, right for the Stones.
he even made his own bass.
such an interesting man, we're talking about an extremely muli-faceted person here. ; restaurateur;
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Wroclaw
Bill had/has his style but I must admit that I've started paying attention to his "uniqueness" only after reading an article about him, describing his pioneering work and contribution for the R&R style bass playing. Its only AFTER this stage that I started noticing his superb bass support especially in certain live recordings where he is high on the mix (like L&G from 1972 - the legendary GS led by MT with all 3 rytem section players at their best).
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Wroclaw
Bill had/has his style but I must admit that I've started paying attention to his "uniqueness" only after reading an article about him, describing his pioneering work and contribution for the R&R style bass playing. Its only AFTER this stage that I started noticing his superb bass support especially in certain live recordings where he is high on the mix (like L&G from 1972 - the legendary GS led by MT with all 3 rytem section players at their best).
Absolutely superb recording...Wyman killed on this.
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24FPS
They never replaced Bill, they simply plugged a hole where the bass had to be. They took a big step down in musicianship when he left. And for those of you think Bill was some primitive, go listen to Midnight Rambler from Brussels.
Bill never just pumped the same lines over and over. Listened to Under My Thumb the other day. Very sophisticated. The guy took piano lessons for years as a kid. And why should it come down to who Charlie wants to play with? Charlie had no say at all in Bill joining the group to begin with, and that was the best rhythm section in rock and roll.
Bill did things with the melody, Darryl does not. I'm tired of bashing Darryl. Darryl is not in Bill's league. My ears immediately try and pick out what Bill is doing on a song. Darryl is an afterthought, like 99% of bass players. Bill laid down the bottom, and enhanced the song. He was as unique and crucial to the Golden Age Stones sound as anyone. He's rock and roll, Darryl is jazz. And when was the last time you heard an announcer shout at the beginning of a concert, "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Greatest Jazz Band in the World, the Rolling Stones1"?
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They never replaced Bill, they simply plugged a hole where the bass had to be. They took a big step down in musicianship when he left. And for those of you think Bill was some primitive, go listen to Midnight Rambler from Brussels.
Bill never just pumped the same lines over and over. Listened to Under My Thumb the other day. Very sophisticated. The guy took piano lessons for years as a kid. And why should it come down to who Charlie wants to play with? Charlie had no say at all in Bill joining the group to begin with, and that was the best rhythm section in rock and roll.
Bill did things with the melody, Darryl does not. I'm tired of bashing Darryl. Darryl is not in Bill's league. My ears immediately try and pick out what Bill is doing on a song. Darryl is an afterthought, like 99% of bass players. Bill laid down the bottom, and enhanced the song. He was as unique and crucial to the Golden Age Stones sound as anyone. He's rock and roll, Darryl is jazz. And when was the last time you heard an announcer shout at the beginning of a concert, "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Greatest Jazz Band in the World, the Rolling Stones1"?
>>Darryl is an afterthought, like 99% of bass players<<
I demand a clarification..or at least an addendum..
that's like saying the floor in ya house is an afterthought...
(to paraphrase some slang here..)
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From4tilLate
How any Stones fan could NOT miss Bill Wyman just boggles my mind. It just doesn't compute. He left a very wide and gaping hole in the band that has not been mended.
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24FPS
The absolute cream of the British rock bands were generally blessed with gifted bass players, Entwistle, McCartney, Wyman, Bruce. It's what a bass player does with the melody that sets him above the others. No slam on bass players, just saying there's an elite next level, the 1% if you will.
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Doxa
Heh, it looks like everybody missed Wyman's playing when he was in the band, but now when he is gone, everybody is missing it...
- Doxa