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The Rolling Stones performance at Glastonbury last week was great. Everybody from press to TV viewers to festival goers say it was so great. But how about those 18 arena shows they did in America this summer? They were great too!!!
They have been at this great level all summer. Well not on TV but still, this is the Stones anno 2013 as they are live on stage. Not through youtube videos, but right into your face and ears in high res quality. They did not re-invent the wheel at Glastonbury. They did what they have been doing for a long time, and they will do it again at Hyde Park now, two times.
That is my message to those who constantly complain about the setlists...
What is this, Bjornulf? Everybody say it was so great. Well I did and I didn't. Both very clearly. I said about Glastonbury Girl ...so lovely to have the idea...that's what it's all about; having the idea, writing it and doing it. That's the energy and dynamics I like so much about this guy. He still got it! That gave me tears of pure joy...great fun!
But I also said, as a reaction to StonedInTokyo's
"It easily ranks as the best performance of the 2012-13 era and possibly among their Top 5 best performances over the past 25 years.:"
Absolutely not!
After Echoplex I saw the first 7 shows in the US and 3 of them are better; 2nd Staples, San Jose and Anaheim 2nd.
The excitement was very nice this time, the total experience was great even watching it simultaneously on my big screen with good sound over the stereo. Choice of songs surprised with Factory Girl and 2000 Light Years From Home but...that's 2 songs. Nice they did CYHMK but we could expect that.
They f.cked up MR when compared to the US shows and SMU, TD & BS were trainwrecks...BS got better as did Satisfaction but that one wasn't 'good' also...SFTD was all Chuck & DJ & CW... Doing a few good licks doesn't make a great performance to me.
Would love to hear the first half because two of my children were there and called me today saying the second half was better... just want to check their ears and RS education..confused smiley
Is that still allowed or...? I don't like your expression "That is my message to those who constantly complain about the setlists..."
The word complain...why use that? Why do you give people a black hat who just don't have the same opinion as you regarding the setlists? What kind of message is that? Don't even help to create a climate like that.
Don't get me wrong; you have the best website-forum there is regarding the RS... for which you deserve credit and when you need it I will help you.
But it's the diversity of opinions that maintains it's quality: we agree to disagree.
Whining about whiners and complaining about complainers; where is a leader leading to when he's doing that?
I hope you can add some nuance to your post; maybe it got lost in your translation...
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latebloomer
Calm down Dreamer, I don't think BV is starting a crusade against anyone, simply stating his opinion, like many others do here.
The consensus here is that Glastonbury was a special night for the Stones, unique for the band's performance, the setting, the audience, the media coverage, on and on...
In any case, his comment was directed to the setlist complainers, and I happen to agree with him there.
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Mathijs
Bollocks BV. Glastonbury might just as well be their best gig since their 1989 return, except maybe for Paradiso 95.
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Green Lady
Apart from serious fans, many people in the UK were not even aware that the Stones had been on tour in the USA this spring, nor that Mick Taylor had rejoined them on stage. So the performance at Glastonbury came out of the blue - and all the more devastating for that.
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Dreamer: I just don't get why you're complaining so much if you enjoy posting on this board.
Bjørnulf runs this board, and I don't think it's your or my business to tell him how he should run it - or that he needs help from you to run it?
I noticed a couple of positive comments from you, re Glasto, I like that. Balance is good. Everything doesn't have to be all doom and gloom
Btw, it's 16 years, Dreamer...
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Bollocks BV. Glastonbury might just as well be their best gig since their 1989 return, except maybe for Paradiso 95.
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And this is based on a objective technical view the world can agree on? As seen from the TV broadcast or by actually being there?
I never said Glasto was not good. it was great. My question is why suddenly the set list is so great, when it is still the core set list, same as in America give or take some 3 songs.
To those who start talking about me as a person: Please do not drag this discussion into some sort of personal attack on me as a person. I have the right to say my opintion without people question my personal life, economy, choices or opinion. Please stick to the subject if you want to be taken seriously.
I do have three children. When the third was born I might of course have dropped the two older ones as favorites and started to outline the youngest as the most perfect one. Because of some rules of success. But how about those others. When they give me equally happiness, then it would be my right to appreciate them all, with all the charactetistics they do have, right?
Did everyone in America see a 2nd class Stones show? I don't think so. Sure Glastonbury was great, even greater than Philly 2, but I have seen many shows, also this year, I think it is unfair to say that one show is qualifying, while the others are crap, like some have said.
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latebloomer
Calm down Dreamer, I don't think BV is starting a crusade against anyone, simply stating his opinion, like many others do here.
The consensus here is that Glastonbury was a special night for the Stones, unique for the band's performance, the setting, the audience, the media coverage, on and on...
In any case, his comment was directed to the setlist complainers, and I happen to agree with him there.
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bv
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That is my message to those who constantly complain about the setlists...
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And this is based on a objective technical view the world can agree on?
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Did everyone in America see a 2nd class Stones show? I don't think so. Sure Glastonbury was great, even greater than Philly 2, but I have seen many shows, also this year, I think it is unfair to say that one show is qualifying, while the others are crap, like some have said.