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Stoneage
Those of you jaundiced with Björnulfs pit tickets: It's not too late to choose that lifestyle for yourselves. It certainly takes a lot of work and dedication to get there though.
But if you are willing to put up with that: Just go for it! It's a matter of choices and prioritisations, at least for most of us.

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crumbling_mice
The issue of what, how and why BV gets to shows shouldn't even be discussed. What he does with his life is his business. He runs IORR for free for us and shares information when he can. Good luck to him. Of course we would all love to be at as many shows as possible and near the front etc etc, but envy is a negative way of looking at it. Just be glad that we know someone who can do these things and can report back to us. Give the guy a break!

You can sure say that again.

A little more appreciation and thanks (instead of stupid questions, accusations and jealousy) is more in line with what bv deserves. I wish people would stop pissing on the camp fire and making simple things (rock and roll) not so fun.

It is work to run this place, Try saying thanks sometime as opposed to bitching, whining and asking dumb questions and being jealous of things everyone can do if they wanted to and put in the effort.

If/when people want things revealed, then they will be revealed.



bv, I know you know that many many many MORE people appreciate your efforts than the 5-6 big mouths who nag at/about you. Please dont let these 5-6 people ruin the party for all of us... all of us accross the Earth. You know how many people come here, and many dont post at all. Your work and efforts and stories and pictures and updates are appreciated by people far and wide. Thank you, and thank you again (a thousand times) from people who dont say it.

And to people who get too worried about what/how/when...
ITS ONLY ROCK AND ROLL! Maybe try to stop thinking about it so hard.

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DoomandGloom
Well I hate to disagree with BV and I am basing my opinion on mostly UTUBES, 3 live shows and TV, what happened in Glastonburry was a step up, an historic moment in rock, like Jimi at Woodstock or The Beatles at Shea. Amazingly it took 50 years for The Stones to have their defining moment in concert but there it was, age defying, balls out and chillingly genuine. While I have not heard every J.J.F. they ever played I will go out on a limb and say Saturday's was the greatest performance of that warhorse, ever!

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bleedingman
This band just seems so much better than the one in "Shine A Light", which I don't really care for, personally. I love what I've seen/heard of the Glastonbury show (those weren't models down front this time). The Chicago show which is on Hot Stuff is quite good also. All that's left is for them to consumate this rebirth with a really good CD of new original material. I know, I know, but...

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sonomastone
Some fans only choose to say positive things about the stones, and BV is one of them, I respect that, although I have a much more critical eye towards the band and in particular the Glimmer Twins.

I've never seen BV quash any criticism of the Stones in the short time that I've been on here.

For example, I started a "worst train wrecks on stage" topic about a month ago, it was a lot of fun and there was no criticsm from anyone for having a thread dedicated to the Stones screw-ups on stage.

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Max'sKansasCity

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crumbling_mice
The issue of what, how and why BV gets to shows shouldn't even be discussed. What he does with his life is his business. He runs IORR for free for us and shares information when he can. Good luck to him. Of course we would all love to be at as many shows as possible and near the front etc etc, but envy is a negative way of looking at it. Just be glad that we know someone who can do these things and can report back to us. Give the guy a break!

You can sure say that again.

A little more appreciation and thanks (instead of stupid questions, accusations and jealousy) is more in line with what bv deserves. I wish people would stop pissing on the camp fire and making simple things (rock and roll) not so fun.

It is work to run this place, Try saying thanks sometime as opposed to bitching, whining and asking dumb questions and being jealous of things everyone can do if they wanted to and put in the effort.

If/when people want things revealed, then they will be revealed.



bv, I know you know that many many many MORE people appreciate your efforts than the 5-6 big mouths who nag at/about you. Please dont let these 5-6 people ruin the party for all of us... all of us accross the Earth. You know how many people come here, and many dont post at all. Your work and efforts and stories and pictures and updates are appreciated by people far and wide. Thank you, and thank you again (a thousand times) from people who dont say it.

And to people who get too worried about what/how/when...
ITS ONLY ROCK AND ROLL! Maybe try to stop thinking about it so hard.

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Eleanor Rigby

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Max'sKansasCity

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crumbling_mice
The issue of what, how and why BV gets to shows shouldn't even be discussed. What he does with his life is his business. He runs IORR for free for us and shares information when he can. Good luck to him. Of course we would all love to be at as many shows as possible and near the front etc etc, but envy is a negative way of looking at it. Just be glad that we know someone who can do these things and can report back to us. Give the guy a break!

You can sure say that again.

A little more appreciation and thanks (instead of stupid questions, accusations and jealousy) is more in line with what bv deserves. I wish people would stop pissing on the camp fire and making simple things (rock and roll) not so fun.

It is work to run this place, Try saying thanks sometime as opposed to bitching, whining and asking dumb questions and being jealous of things everyone can do if they wanted to and put in the effort.

If/when people want things revealed, then they will be revealed.



bv, I know you know that many many many MORE people appreciate your efforts than the 5-6 big mouths who nag at/about you. Please dont let these 5-6 people ruin the party for all of us... all of us accross the Earth. You know how many people come here, and many dont post at all. Your work and efforts and stories and pictures and updates are appreciated by people far and wide. Thank you, and thank you again (a thousand times) from people who dont say it.

And to people who get too worried about what/how/when...
ITS ONLY ROCK AND ROLL! Maybe try to stop thinking about it so hard.

firstly Max/and others, if you are referring to my comments about BV telling us how and why he is so lucky etc... it is not insulting, nor is it envious or negative !

I merely asked him that he should let us know so as to avoid the constant innuendo about his connection with the Band - i have said this 3 times now and it clearly hasn't got through your skull.

If he wants to put the Stones before family etc..blah blah blah it's his business...I agree, same for anyone.

some guys just need to settle down, relax, stop ar$elicking and read slowly...my posts on this subject are not insulting.

for the record, BV does a great job and his website is defintely the best one on the Net...happy now Max ?

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steverogan
I could not comment on Glastonbury performance.. There are too few videos for us in US to see. That, coupled with BBC removing uploaded broadcasts make seeing certian songs like "Glastonbury Girl" difficult to impossible to find. Too bad there are so few songs on Youtube; I do sincerely hope all in Europe enjoyed the Youtube videos uploaded from US shows.

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fahthree
As a vocal critic of BV I don't think he should answer that question. It's not our business.

My point has always been this -- when you are in the pit every night, regardless of how you get there, your perception of a show will always be different. They could play Dirty Work in its entirety and if you're 10 feet from them it will be amazing. You won't complain about the setlist. But, you shouldn't take shots at people who are labeled whiners or complainers. Your view is jaded. Frankly, those fans are just passionate.

Then when he inserts envy into the conversation he ends up looking like a jackass. Who the f is he to think he is worthy of envy? That's an exaggerated sense of self-worth. The Stones are cool, we get that, and while going to all the shows is awesome it's not worthy of envy. What's sad is someone would actually think it is...

Finally, an audience doesn't need to know every song to enjoy a concert -- a popular assertion.

By the way, I do appreciate what BV does as far as the site goes. I've said that countless times but I don't feel the need to bow down and join the personality cult.

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triceratops
I am guessing you are 12 years old. You are a useless jackass to me. Why? Because you are childish and clutter up this site. In contrast Mr BV is very useful to me and very appreciated. Why? Because he runs this site and doesn't charge me or anyone a penny. Very very nice of him.

What have you ever done for me? and for free?? NOTHING!!!!! See the difference now? You do the hard work and pay hosting fees for a large Rolling Stones fan site we will see how you do. You will make a mess of it and no one will ENVY YOU and this is for sure.

You have no f'ing manners to be insulting your host at his dinner table where you are eating his food and not paying one cent. You take and you do not give. Summation--- grow up!!

BV probably has many people who envy (are jealous) his access to the Stones events. You too can have this kind of access and envy but the price is spending thousands of hours and thousands of dollars building and maintaining a large Rolling Stones website