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Stones music is always bluesy. When they make country, soul, rock and roll, even disco (Emotional Rescue) you can always hear the bluesy attitude, style. That's because they are fundamentally a blues band who play various kind of music but always with a bluesy touch IMO And that's their magical unique sound that we call The Rolling Stones.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-06-05 13:57 by 1962.
It's been a while since I stated this - which song did I have in mind?
EDIT: Found it! We were (for some reason) discussing Down In The Hole. It still sounds like a blues songs to me, btw
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-06-05 14:10 by DandelionPowderman.
The whole debate in this thread, about what's pure or classical blues or not, was about Down In The Hole.
No Use In Crying sounds more like a soul tune to me, albeit with some blue-flavoured stuff
TOPS is the Tops. Fantastic. Great guitar
Way back in '81, when I got this LP, I used to play Start Me Up, and then flip it over to side 2 immediately, for the first 4 songs. AT the time I thought it was one side of great material. In time I grew to like Hang Fire, and Little T&A. Some of it was bad production on side 1. I've never cared the studio version of Black Limousine, or Neighbors, they both hurt my ears. It wasn't until I got the Hampton '81 DVD that I finally dug Black Limousine, especially Bill's absolute killer bass. And Ernie Watts sax on Waiting On A Friend finally got me into that song, and of course I dig Sonny Rollins' studio version. But Neighbors. Please. That's filler along the lines of 'Lies' on Some Girls.
Not with Winning Ugly or a plethora of other horrible tracks.
Holy crap. For once I agree with you on something.
Tops is brilliant. Mick Taylor, great lyrics. Awesome song.
That's funny. I love Neighbours. I don't get the 'bad production'. Hang Fire and Neighbours have a very full sound to them, a lot of bottom end, nothing thin at all about them like anything from SOME GIRLS.
Lies is brilliant, by the way - a thousand times better than the boring by the numbers boring boring Respectable.
No Use In Crying.
Slave????
No Use In Crying?
My EMOTIONAL RESCUE had been poorer though, since I find all those songs you want to skip as essential tracks in that album.
"Send It To Me", by the way, is the reggae version of "Neighbours" - or the latter a 'punk rock' version of the former...
But that said, "Think I'm Going Mad" should have found its place in some major album, had it been EMOTIONAL RESCUE, TATTOO YOU or UNDERCOVER.
- Doxa
Well, you just have to use your imagination with the way you know ER and put those songs on instead. Afterall, if those songs I mentioned to take off weren't on it and were on TY instead and it was suggested the other way around you'd probably say the same thing!
Regarding I Think I'm Going Mad it certainly would've fit best on ER, it would have possibly fit in on TY but no way would it have fit on U.
I agree with you 100%. This song rides on its' great chorus, unfortunately it would have a better place as a non album B side. Think I'm Going Mad would have been a better choice, talk about an upgrade!
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Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
1962
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Date: June 5, 2014 13:54
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DandelionPowderman
It's not a 12 bar blues, but it surely is a classic blues in every other sense - by instrumentation (rhythm and harp), the feel as well as the guitar playing.
Stones music is always bluesy. When they make country, soul, rock and roll, even disco (Emotional Rescue) you can always hear the bluesy attitude, style. That's because they are fundamentally a blues band who play various kind of music but always with a bluesy touch IMO And that's their magical unique sound that we call The Rolling Stones.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-06-05 13:57 by 1962.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 5, 2014 14:05
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1962Quote
DandelionPowderman
It's not a 12 bar blues, but it surely is a classic blues in every other sense - by instrumentation (rhythm and harp), the feel as well as the guitar playing.
Stones music is always bluesy. When they make country, soul, rock and roll, even disco (Emotional Rescue) you can always hear the bluesy attitude, style. That's because they are fundamentally a blues band who play various kind of music but always with a bluesy touch IMO And that's their magical unique sound that we call The Rolling Stones.
It's been a while since I stated this - which song did I have in mind?
EDIT: Found it! We were (for some reason) discussing Down In The Hole. It still sounds like a blues songs to me, btw
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-06-05 14:10 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
RobertJohnson
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Date: June 5, 2014 14:13
Fine bluesy atmosphere without being a classical blues take - whatever "classic" in this respect may be. Only I have some troubles with the falsetto voice that I don't like at all. Otherwise a great song.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 5, 2014 14:18
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RobertJohnson
Fine bluesy atmosphere without being a classical blues take - whatever "classic" in this respect may be. Only I have some troubles with the falsetto voice that I don't like at all. Otherwise a great song.
The whole debate in this thread, about what's pure or classical blues or not, was about Down In The Hole.
No Use In Crying sounds more like a soul tune to me, albeit with some blue-flavoured stuff
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
RoughJusticeOnYa
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Date: June 5, 2014 14:59
"Standing in the kitchen, looking way out across the fields..."
Such a great line.
Such a great line.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: June 5, 2014 17:47
How anyone can think that Hang Fire and Neighbours are filler is beyond me. Every track on this album is a 10.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
michaelsavage
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Date: June 5, 2014 18:05
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gimmelittledrink
Tops is the weak link, if there is one. And Exile wouldn't be Exile without Turd.
TOPS is the Tops. Fantastic. Great guitar
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
gimmelittledrink
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Date: June 5, 2014 18:13
With better lyrics, it might be as good as the other songs.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 5, 2014 18:46
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michaelsavageQuote
gimmelittledrink
Tops is the weak link, if there is one. And Exile wouldn't be Exile without Turd.
TOPS is the Tops. Fantastic. Great guitarS
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
dandelion1967
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Date: June 5, 2014 18:51
Nicky or Stu play the piano? If it's Stu, it's a proof of the stupid nonsense sentences like "Stu did not play minor chords" doesn't match with reality at all.
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"I'm gonna walk... before they make me run"
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"I'm gonna walk... before they make me run"
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Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
stupidguy2
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Date: June 5, 2014 18:54
The best song on TY, and the most heartbeaking.
And when his voice breaks, I swear he's singing...'I love you...'
Its like he's left, and and is telling her he's never cominb back - but his delivery reveals him: he's still in love, but can't deal with the hurting, the fighting, the games etc...
Great song, one of Jagger's greatest performances and lyrics.
And when his voice breaks, I swear he's singing...'I love you...'
Its like he's left, and and is telling her he's never cominb back - but his delivery reveals him: he's still in love, but can't deal with the hurting, the fighting, the games etc...
Great song, one of Jagger's greatest performances and lyrics.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
Winning Ugly VXII
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Date: June 5, 2014 19:03
This is a very underrated song. I think that it would work well live.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
MKjan
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Date: June 5, 2014 19:23
Loved this song the first time I heard it and just as much today.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
24FPS
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Date: June 5, 2014 19:27
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GasLightStreet
How anyone can think that Hang Fire and Neighbours are filler is beyond me. Every track on this album is a 10.
Way back in '81, when I got this LP, I used to play Start Me Up, and then flip it over to side 2 immediately, for the first 4 songs. AT the time I thought it was one side of great material. In time I grew to like Hang Fire, and Little T&A. Some of it was bad production on side 1. I've never cared the studio version of Black Limousine, or Neighbors, they both hurt my ears. It wasn't until I got the Hampton '81 DVD that I finally dug Black Limousine, especially Bill's absolute killer bass. And Ernie Watts sax on Waiting On A Friend finally got me into that song, and of course I dig Sonny Rollins' studio version. But Neighbors. Please. That's filler along the lines of 'Lies' on Some Girls.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 5, 2014 19:50
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1962Quote
DandelionPowderman
It's not a 12 bar blues, but it surely is a classic blues in every other sense - by instrumentation (rhythm and harp), the feel as well as the guitar playing.
Stones music is always bluesy. When they make country, soul, rock and roll, even disco (Emotional Rescue) you can always hear the bluesy attitude, style. That's because they are fundamentally a blues band who play various kind of music but always with a bluesy touch IMO And that's their magical unique sound that we call The Rolling Stones.
Not with Winning Ugly or a plethora of other horrible tracks.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 5, 2014 19:52
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michaelsavageQuote
gimmelittledrink
Tops is the weak link, if there is one. And Exile wouldn't be Exile without Turd.
TOPS is the Tops. Fantastic. Great guitar
Holy crap. For once I agree with you on something.
Tops is brilliant. Mick Taylor, great lyrics. Awesome song.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 5, 2014 19:54
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24FPSQuote
GasLightStreet
How anyone can think that Hang Fire and Neighbours are filler is beyond me. Every track on this album is a 10.
Way back in '81, when I got this LP, I used to play Start Me Up, and then flip it over to side 2 immediately, for the first 4 songs. AT the time I thought it was one side of great material. In time I grew to like Hang Fire, and Little T&A. Some of it was bad production on side 1. I've never cared the studio version of Black Limousine, or Neighbors, they both hurt my ears. It wasn't until I got the Hampton '81 DVD that I finally dug Black Limousine, especially Bill's absolute killer bass. And Ernie Watts sax on Waiting On A Friend finally got me into that song, and of course I dig Sonny Rollins' studio version. But Neighbors. Please. That's filler along the lines of 'Lies' on Some Girls.
That's funny. I love Neighbours. I don't get the 'bad production'. Hang Fire and Neighbours have a very full sound to them, a lot of bottom end, nothing thin at all about them like anything from SOME GIRLS.
Lies is brilliant, by the way - a thousand times better than the boring by the numbers boring boring Respectable.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: June 5, 2014 19:55
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DandelionPowderman
Slave????
No Use In Crying.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 5, 2014 20:13
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GasLightStreetQuote
DandelionPowderman
Slave????
No Use In Crying.
Slave????
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: June 5, 2014 20:30
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
DandelionPowderman
Slave????
No Use In Crying.
Slave????
No Use In Crying?
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
geordiestone
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Date: June 5, 2014 21:15
I've been saying for years now that No Use In Crying would be great in the set list. It's a beautiful, chilling, haunting song that you can almost feel heartache coming out of the speakers. The b side to the first Stones single i bought at 7 year old too.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: June 5, 2014 21:23
Just think - it was recorded for EMOTIONAL RESCUE. Imagine if they had finished it, I Think I'm Going Mad, Little T&A and Hang Fire and put them on ER instead of Send It To Me, Let Me Go, Indian Girl and how much better that album would've been.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
Doxa
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Date: June 5, 2014 22:22
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GasLightStreet
Just think - it was recorded for EMOTIONAL RESCUE. Imagine if they had finished it, I Think I'm Going Mad, Little T&A and Hang Fire and put them on ER instead of Send It To Me, Let Me Go, Indian Girl and how much better that album would've been.
My EMOTIONAL RESCUE had been poorer though, since I find all those songs you want to skip as essential tracks in that album.
"Send It To Me", by the way, is the reggae version of "Neighbours" - or the latter a 'punk rock' version of the former...
But that said, "Think I'm Going Mad" should have found its place in some major album, had it been EMOTIONAL RESCUE, TATTOO YOU or UNDERCOVER.
- Doxa
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: June 6, 2014 00:43
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DoxaQuote
GasLightStreet
Just think - it was recorded for EMOTIONAL RESCUE. Imagine if they had finished it, I Think I'm Going Mad, Little T&A and Hang Fire and put them on ER instead of Send It To Me, Let Me Go, Indian Girl and how much better that album would've been.
My EMOTIONAL RESCUE had been poorer though, since I find all those songs you want to skip as essential tracks in that album.
"Send It To Me", by the way, is the reggae version of "Neighbours" - or the latter a 'punk rock' version of the former...
But that said, "Think I'm Going Mad" should have found its place in some major album, had it been EMOTIONAL RESCUE, TATTOO YOU or UNDERCOVER.
- Doxa
Well, you just have to use your imagination with the way you know ER and put those songs on instead. Afterall, if those songs I mentioned to take off weren't on it and were on TY instead and it was suggested the other way around you'd probably say the same thing!
Regarding I Think I'm Going Mad it certainly would've fit best on ER, it would have possibly fit in on TY but no way would it have fit on U.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
tops06
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Date: June 6, 2014 01:39
I love the way this song leads into Waiting on a Friend.
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
RawIguanaCologne
()
Date: June 6, 2014 04:13
This is a real treasure, one of the greatest underrated songs - it was never played live, was it?
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: June 6, 2014 07:12
A really really nice song, and melody.
BUT A REALLY REALLY GREAT vocal.
Mick's delivery is pretty much spot on. You can hear heartache and smell them tears....
BUT A REALLY REALLY GREAT vocal.
Mick's delivery is pretty much spot on. You can hear heartache and smell them tears....
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: June 6, 2014 07:49
Quote
gimmelittledrink
With better lyrics, it might be as good as the other songs.
I agree with you 100%. This song rides on its' great chorus, unfortunately it would have a better place as a non album B side. Think I'm Going Mad would have been a better choice, talk about an upgrade!
Re: Track Talk: No Use In Crying
Posted by:
MingSubu
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Date: June 6, 2014 08:59
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bitusa2012
A really really nice song, and melody.
BUT A REALLY REALLY GREAT vocal.
Mick's delivery is pretty much spot on. You can hear heartache and smell them tears....
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