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So what is it specifically that they are not doing that they once did?
Playing with stunning fluidity (in Taylor's case) and rhythmic brilliance (in Keith's).

Does it change the overall sound of the song?

Yes.

Does it make the songs any less powerful?

Yes.

Or is it something only a trained ear can pick up?

No.

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You're kidding, right?

They certainly sounded great on Ladies and Gentlemen, but did you see the video posted earlier today of them performing live during the '72, 73 tour? Awful. I am just asking a question. I haven't seen every tour throughout the years. Steven Van Zandt seems to think they are performing better than ever. Is it possible that we are confusing higher levels of energy with better playing? Certainly they had more energy in those days thanks to youth and the drugs they were taking. Today they are doing it straight. And of course they are pushing 70. But what about the actual playing today with the addition of Mick Taylor?

They most likely had some off nights on every tour over the past 50 years. And in my own personal observations, they played their instruments much better then. There was an abundance of energy, despite the booze and pills and powders, not to mention the cooze and lack of sleep. In their 20s they could push past all that. Now they have three days off between appearances.

Steven Van Zandt has a vested interest in thinking they're playing better. He's old too and probably likes to think he's still as good as he was. It's nothing personal against the Stones. They are now the older, slower bluesmen they told us they were going to be. Personally I wish they'd do some more blues, and knock this Tumbling Dice/Sympathy For The Devil off the table. I'd really like to see this whole thing grow up. They can be the group they are now without trying to recreate 1969.

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So what is it specifically that they are not doing that they once did?
Playing with stunning fluidity (in Taylor's case) and rhythmic brilliance (in Keith's).

Does it change the overall sound of the song?

Yes.

Does it make the songs any less powerful?

Yes.

Or is it something only a trained ear can pick up?

No.

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Doesn't get better than this.

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Do you think that the drugs they took in those days enhanced their playing?

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Do you think that the drugs they took in those days enhanced their playing?

ARE YOU MY 2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER?
OR ARE YOU A PRAYING VIRGIN? IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT YOU AND BV ARE IN CHARGE OF THIS BOARD. JUST DON'T RUN TOO MANY RED LIGHTS IN HIS HIS OWNER. I GUESS "HE" IS JAGGER IN BV'S CASE

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

It's spelled 'imbecile'. Other than that I agree.

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

It's spelled 'imbecile'. Other than that I agree.

So what do you think of Ronnie and Steven Van Zandt?

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It's definitely killer, but Mick's singing is actually better today.

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It's definitely killer, but Mick's singing is actually better today.

Now you're being silly!

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

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His voice is too 'thin' now.

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His voice is too 'thin' now.

He is a much better singer today though. I think his voice was at it's best probably in the early to mid sixties.

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

It's spelled 'imbecile'. Other than that I agree.

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

It's spelled 'imbecile'. Other than that I agree.

Not in norwegian

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

It's spelled 'imbecile'. Other than that I agree.

Not in norwegian

Any country that misspells its largest city Oslo instead of Also is certainly questionable!

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SO BRAIN DEAD THREAD LIKE THIS, FROM THE SAME OLD NAME-CHANGING-IMBECIL-POSTER JUMPIN JACK IS OK BUT STONESTOD IS BEING BANNED?
OK; BUT QUITE FRANKLY; I'M FEELING CHEATED. NO WONDER PEOPLE LIKE GAZZA IS STAYING LOW. SO WILL I.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

It's spelled 'imbecile'. Other than that I agree.

Not in norwegian

Any country that misspells its largest city Oslo instead of Also is certainly questionable!

Thanks....I don't think it landed as well as it might have.

There's a better joke there, I just couldn't find it.

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What do you think? Is it crazy to suggest that this is the best version of the Rolling Stones ever?

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You're kidding, right? I just watched Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones last night from the'72 tour. Keith fighting off Taylor's virtuosity so he can get in a tasty lead or two of his own. Bill bringing the bottom, and some danger, with throbbing bass lines. Jagger and Richards head to head doing vocals on Happy. Taylor's Love In Vain and All Down The Line masterpieces. Charlie kicking up the energy level to a frenzy for the Street Fighting Man finale.

By comparison the current version is the Rolling Stones in name only. A pleasant little rock and roll get together, not too strenuous, gloriously familiar, with an occasional authentic note pulled from somewhere far back. This is cabaret compared to the Jack Daniels and fat coke chunks on a knife blade Stones. This is The Rolling Stones on Broadway, not the Stones in a sweaty Long Beach Arena blowing the doors off. There is menace in the 1972 Mick Jagger slamming his Midnight Rambler belt to the stage floor. 2013 is Good Times Rock and Roll, and Remember When? Delivered professionally, cleanly, with more than a few spoons of nostalgia. But, the best Live Version of the Stones, ever? You're kidding, right?

Agree 100% Like Comparing Ali at 22 to Ali at 36. Please

What about Ali at 32 or 33? I think the Ali that defeated Foreman then Frazier in Manilla would have beaten the 22 year old Cassius Clay. Experience would have prevailed.

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Just ask a 19 year old what they think. Time is relevant more in their eyes and ears then ours. All of them i have asked say its the best concert they ha e ever been to.....

The only question you need to ask is would you tell your friends to go see a show. For most of us that answer is yes, even today.......,,,.

Look they are just great at anytime you see them... If not well then your just not going anymore.

Who is still going most of us are!!! That includes DC Tonight

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His voice is too 'thin' now.

He is a much better singer today though. I think his voice was at it's best probably in the early to mid sixties.

I don't know how you can say that, JumpinJack. Jagger's voice has lost its raw vitality. Paul is correct - Jagger's voice is too thin now, and irritating. Back in the day his voice was very much the essence of rock 'n' roll.