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2 new faces like they used to is a fraud to me.
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I saw them last year. Pretty good. But Stanley was NOT good. Compared to Mick he is a joke today. But the show was good, and the roadie (Thayer) had learned Ace's licks.
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I saw them last year. Pretty good. But Stanley was NOT good. Compared to Mick he is a joke today. But the show was good, and the roadie (Thayer) had learned Ace's licks.
pauls voice is struggling but to be fair most of the KISS songs are 1 full octave higher then most stones songs. it would be like mick singing 80% of a concert in the falsetto range for 40 years, his voice wouldn't be so hot anymore either
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I saw them last year. Pretty good. But Stanley was NOT good. Compared to Mick he is a joke today. But the show was good, and the roadie (Thayer) had learned Ace's licks.
pauls voice is struggling but to be fair most of the KISS songs are 1 full octave higher then most stones songs. it would be like mick singing 80% of a concert in the falsetto range for 40 years, his voice wouldn't be so hot anymore either
True, but I actually thought he was singing pretty good. The rest of his duties, however...
PS: Most of Stanley's high pitch-screaming IS falsetto, btw - and you gotta use the voice you're born with - hence comparing range is useless, imo
But, as I said, the Kiss show in Oslo last summer was good.
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I saw them last year. Pretty good. But Stanley was NOT good. Compared to Mick he is a joke today. But the show was good, and the roadie (Thayer) had learned Ace's licks.
pauls voice is struggling but to be fair most of the KISS songs are 1 full octave higher then most stones songs. it would be like mick singing 80% of a concert in the falsetto range for 40 years, his voice wouldn't be so hot anymore either
True, but I actually thought he was singing pretty good. The rest of his duties, however...
PS: Most of Stanley's high pitch-screaming IS falsetto, btw - and you gotta use the voice you're born with - hence comparing range is useless, imo
But, as I said, the Kiss show in Oslo last summer was good.
Listening to Kiss I have always preferred Simmons and Criss...Pauls latest Solo-album is really good on the other hand...(no high-singin there)...
why do I bother you may think....my son is a die-hard Kiss-fan visiting their latest concert this saturday...I have heard hundreds of hours with Kiss music in the car and from his room....
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I saw them last year. Pretty good. But Stanley was NOT good. Compared to Mick he is a joke today. But the show was good, and the roadie (Thayer) had learned Ace's licks.
pauls voice is struggling but to be fair most of the KISS songs are 1 full octave higher then most stones songs. it would be like mick singing 80% of a concert in the falsetto range for 40 years, his voice wouldn't be so hot anymore either
True, but I actually thought he was singing pretty good. The rest of his duties, however...
PS: Most of Stanley's high pitch-screaming IS falsetto, btw - and you gotta use the voice you're born with - hence comparing range is useless, imo
But, as I said, the Kiss show in Oslo last summer was good.
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I saw them last year. Pretty good. But Stanley was NOT good. Compared to Mick he is a joke today. But the show was good, and the roadie (Thayer) had learned Ace's licks.
pauls voice is struggling but to be fair most of the KISS songs are 1 full octave higher then most stones songs. it would be like mick singing 80% of a concert in the falsetto range for 40 years, his voice wouldn't be so hot anymore either
True, but I actually thought he was singing pretty good. The rest of his duties, however...
PS: Most of Stanley's high pitch-screaming IS falsetto, btw - and you gotta use the voice you're born with - hence comparing range is useless, imo
But, as I said, the Kiss show in Oslo last summer was good.
yes but the regular vocal parts of most KISS songs that paul sings are almost an octave higher then most stones songs.
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I saw them last year. Pretty good. But Stanley was NOT good. Compared to Mick he is a joke today. But the show was good, and the roadie (Thayer) had learned Ace's licks.
pauls voice is struggling but to be fair most of the KISS songs are 1 full octave higher then most stones songs. it would be like mick singing 80% of a concert in the falsetto range for 40 years, his voice wouldn't be so hot anymore either
True, but I actually thought he was singing pretty good. The rest of his duties, however...
PS: Most of Stanley's high pitch-screaming IS falsetto, btw - and you gotta use the voice you're born with - hence comparing range is useless, imo
But, as I said, the Kiss show in Oslo last summer was good.
yes but the regular vocal parts of most KISS songs that paul sings are almost an octave higher then most stones songs.
No, it's not an octave higher. It's higher of course, though, but it's not like Paul's lowest pitch is where Mick reaches on Too Tough
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i'd also like to point out that KISS has been around roughly 40 years and probably played more shows then the rolling stones which singing live takes a toll on your voice. since 1972 KISS has only had 6 years off (no shows or less than 10 shows) and 2 of those 6 years paul stanley did a solo tour. compare that to the stones who started 50 years ago but have had about 20 years without any live shows since 1962.
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i'd also like to point out that KISS has been around roughly 40 years and probably played more shows then the rolling stones which singing live takes a toll on your voice. since 1972 KISS has only had 6 years off (no shows or less than 10 shows) and 2 of those 6 years paul stanley did a solo tour. compare that to the stones who started 50 years ago but have had about 20 years without any live shows since 1962.
keefriff, I'm probably just as big a fan as you are
But Stanley just isn't in Mick's league when it comes to being a front man, no matter how good he's singing. That was my point.
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i'd also like to point out that KISS has been around roughly 40 years and probably played more shows then the rolling stones which singing live takes a toll on your voice. since 1972 KISS has only had 6 years off (no shows or less than 10 shows) and 2 of those 6 years paul stanley did a solo tour. compare that to the stones who started 50 years ago but have had about 20 years without any live shows since 1962.
keefriff, I'm probably just as big a fan as you are
But Stanley just isn't in Mick's league when it comes to being a front man, no matter how good he's singing. That was my point.
stanley is not in micks league as a frontman just like mick as a singer and guitar player was never anywhere close to stanley. did stanley use to move around more? yes. but the higher the notes the more air you need to sing and as you get older you have to concentrate more on it meaning he really has to stay still a lot now. same thing with rob halford from judas priest.
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i'd also like to point out that KISS has been around roughly 40 years and probably played more shows then the rolling stones which singing live takes a toll on your voice. since 1972 KISS has only had 6 years off (no shows or less than 10 shows) and 2 of those 6 years paul stanley did a solo tour. compare that to the stones who started 50 years ago but have had about 20 years without any live shows since 1962.
keefriff, I'm probably just as big a fan as you are
But Stanley just isn't in Mick's league when it comes to being a front man, no matter how good he's singing. That was my point.
stanley is not in micks league as a frontman just like mick as a singer and guitar player was never anywhere close to stanley. did stanley use to move around more? yes. but the higher the notes the more air you need to sing and as you get older you have to concentrate more on it meaning he really has to stay still a lot now. same thing with rob halford from judas priest.
Yeah, of course. However, what do you think the audience appreciates the most?
None of them are very good at playing the guitar, though, but good enough.
What's your favourite Kiss album btw?
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i'd also like to point out that KISS has been around roughly 40 years and probably played more shows then the rolling stones which singing live takes a toll on your voice. since 1972 KISS has only had 6 years off (no shows or less than 10 shows) and 2 of those 6 years paul stanley did a solo tour. compare that to the stones who started 50 years ago but have had about 20 years without any live shows since 1962.
keefriff, I'm probably just as big a fan as you are
But Stanley just isn't in Mick's league when it comes to being a front man, no matter how good he's singing. That was my point.
stanley is not in micks league as a frontman just like mick as a singer and guitar player was never anywhere close to stanley. did stanley use to move around more? yes. but the higher the notes the more air you need to sing and as you get older you have to concentrate more on it meaning he really has to stay still a lot now. same thing with rob halford from judas priest.
Yeah, of course. However, what do you think the audience appreciates the most?
None of them are very good at playing the guitar, though, but good enough.
What's your favourite Kiss album btw?
my favorite is actually the very first album.
btw i agree with several of the people who like peter criss singing the most. that guy could really wail and despite claims by gene, peter was actually a great drummer until the late 70's when booze, drugs, a car accident and not practicing took its toll.