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why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: May 5, 2013 15:15

Bad mixing, even worse editing...why do these guys upload those live videos of the new tour on youtube? they don`t do justice what they do on stage. they sound much better than this...

some examples:

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-05 15:25 by hockenheim95.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: Lynd8 ()
Date: May 5, 2013 15:21

Maybe they are plotting a decent DVD of "Video Rewind"?

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: May 5, 2013 15:24

So ppl can DL the audience recordings from various sites?

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: EasterMan ()
Date: May 5, 2013 15:29

Just read the comments on the videos. People are very negative.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: May 5, 2013 15:40

I can understand their reactions. to me it doesn`t sound good. and I think it is because of the bad mixing and editing

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: still ill ()
Date: May 5, 2013 15:54

Not only are the sound and editing appalling but,out of an
entire gig, they chose to include clips of Keith playing a solo in the wrong key and Ronnie blundering through Wild Horses. Incredible really

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: TheBlockbuster ()
Date: May 5, 2013 16:07

Uploading these videos is the worst possible way for The Rolling Stones to promote their tour. They should spend a couple of days mixing and equlizing the audio before uploading that kind of videos if they wanna boost ticket sales.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-05 16:10 by TheBlockbuster.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: KurtKuurna ()
Date: May 5, 2013 16:19

Incredible, yes!

Maybe it's because everything in Youtube sounds shit so they wanna follow the trend! =-)
Or maybe it's the trend of the day of music business that there's no money to anything, and sound-designers and mixers or editors are paid nothing... Because everything sounds shit anyway in Youtube and in ipods and nobody cares.

Like Keef said he still listens to real cd:s and vinyls and cassettes cause they just sound better than mp3's. And they really sound better. Just bought by the way Grrrrr as a Blue Ray Audio-disc, and THAT IS the thing!!! You can hear the difference to itunes mp3's, or whatever if you listen the same song switching between. And when the sound of the cd or blue-ray is better it's easier for ears, you can listen the songs longer, but with mp3's you, or i get tired after a few songs.

It's actually a miracle that music-industry is still alive. What other industry could have survived over ten years people stealing your products in the internet and royalties and fees from writing songs go down 200 %, or something. THAT's why everything sound shit nowadays, nobody cares and the sound-technicians are not hired like they used to be. They were the first ones to go cause nobody sees them. Thank You.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: KurtKuurna ()
Date: May 5, 2013 16:22

And by the way the music clips from the concert sound like someone's monitor-mix recorded. No kick at all, no ambience. Maybe Charlie's monitormix. Don't know.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: May 5, 2013 17:18

Quote
hockenheim95
Bad mixing, even worse editing...why do these guys upload those live videos of the new tour on youtube? they don`t do justice what they do on stage. they sound much better than this...

some examples:

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]


Official? Why do you think they are official videos....IMO they are just mobile phone recordings............

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Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: May 5, 2013 17:28

Quote
NICOS
Quote
hockenheim95
Bad mixing, even worse editing...why do these guys upload those live videos of the new tour on youtube? they don`t do justice what they do on stage. they sound much better than this...

some examples:

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]


Official? Why do you think they are official videos....IMO they are just mobile phone recordings............

Because they're published on the official Rolling Stones YouTube channel?

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: May 5, 2013 17:30

Quote
EasterMan
Just read the comments on the videos. People are very negative.

That's the human condition...

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: Slim Harpo ()
Date: May 5, 2013 17:35

Quote
still ill
Not only are the sound and editing appalling but,out of an
entire gig, they chose to include clips of Keith playing a solo in the wrong key and Ronnie blundering through Wild Horses. Incredible really

Agree totally. If you actually set out to make them look past it you could hardly do any better. I couldn't believe what I was watching.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: andrewt ()
Date: May 5, 2013 18:18

Had to see for myself after reading this...wow that's shockingly bad indeed.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: May 5, 2013 19:16

Maybe because they don't do anything to them. It's not mixed or anything. It's just off the soundboard. If they mixed it and got the levels right, it would be a much better sound. Did anybody expect them to run those recordings past a studio to get the sound right for a fricking YouTube video?

JumpingKentFlash

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: rebelrebel ()
Date: May 5, 2013 19:25

They have form doing this. After the last night at the O2 in 2007 they posted She Was Hot and it was a train wreck. Hard to answer the question as to why though.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: flacnvinyl ()
Date: May 5, 2013 19:30

They need to hire me. Ditch the interns. I will do it for free!

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: May 5, 2013 22:41

Quote
open-g
Quote
NICOS
Quote
hockenheim95
Bad mixing, even worse editing...why do these guys upload those live videos of the new tour on youtube? they don`t do justice what they do on stage. they sound much better than this...

some examples:

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]


Official? Why do you think they are official videos....IMO they are just mobile phone recordings............

Because they're published on the official Rolling Stones YouTube channel?

Oops...... confused smiley

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Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: May 5, 2013 23:04

Quote
hockenheim95
Bad mixing, even worse editing...why do these guys upload those live videos of the new tour on youtube? they don`t do justice what they do on stage. they sound much better than this...

some examples:

[www.youtube.com]

[www.youtube.com]

The Keith out of tune bit was a strange choice for a compilation.

video: [www.youtube.com]

What is the matter with the people putting this together?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-05-05 23:05 by GravityBoy.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: May 5, 2013 23:13

The reason is because they still plan on releasing, in lieu of a new studio album, disc media (CDs, DVDs) versions of the tour at some point, so that they can put out a "new" album.

If people have perfect soundboard versions of concerts to download from YouTube, then who would want to buy the "new" product to be eventually released on CD and/or DVD?

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: May 5, 2013 23:18

Quote
stonehearted
The reason is because they still plan on releasing, in lieu of a new studio album, disc media (CDs, DVDs) versions of the tour at some point, so that they can put out a "new" album.

If people have perfect soundboard versions of concerts to download from YouTube, then who would want to buy the "new" product to be eventually released on CD and/or DVD?

to post nothing would be better than this. it sounds terrible

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: May 5, 2013 23:19

Quote
stonehearted
The reason is because they still plan on releasing, in lieu of a new studio album, disc media (CDs, DVDs) versions of the tour at some point, so that they can put out a "new" album.

If people have perfect soundboard versions of concerts to download from YouTube, then who would want to buy the "new" product to be eventually released on CD and/or DVD?

THat's not the reason.

These are snippets, not full performances.

Terrible ones.

Someone needs slapping in the marketing/production team.

Word will spread, this will go viral.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: May 5, 2013 23:22

Quote
GravityBoy
Quote
stonehearted
The reason is because they still plan on releasing, in lieu of a new studio album, disc media (CDs, DVDs) versions of the tour at some point, so that they can put out a "new" album.

If people have perfect soundboard versions of concerts to download from YouTube, then who would want to buy the "new" product to be eventually released on CD and/or DVD?

THat's not the reason.

These are snippets, not full performances.

Terrible ones.

Someone needs slapping in the marketing/production team.

Word will spread, this will go viral.

The Emotional Rescue vid is a full performance (albeit an audience recording), and there were plenty of full songs available on YouTube from the 2012 shows (again audience versions).

But the reason the official Stones page only releases snippets is because if they put out full clips that would be tantamount to bootlegging themselves.

We will have to wait for an official release, and not via YouTube.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: May 5, 2013 23:24

Quote
stonehearted
But the reason the official Stones page only releases snippets is because if they put out full clips that would be tantamount to bootlegging themselves.

I think you are missing the point.

These are F*****G TERRIBLE snippets.

People are laughing.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: Muddyw ()
Date: May 5, 2013 23:41

Quote
KurtKuurna
Incredible, yes!

Maybe it's because everything in Youtube sounds shit so they wanna follow the trend! =-)
Or maybe it's the trend of the day of music business that there's no money to anything, and sound-designers and mixers or editors are paid nothing... Because everything sounds shit anyway in Youtube and in ipods and nobody cares.

Like Keef said he still listens to real cd:s and vinyls and cassettes cause they just sound better than mp3's. And they really sound better. Just bought by the way Grrrrr as a Blue Ray Audio-disc, and THAT IS the thing!!! You can hear the difference to itunes mp3's, or whatever if you listen the same song switching between. And when the sound of the cd or blue-ray is better it's easier for ears, you can listen the songs longer, but with mp3's you, or i get tired after a few songs.

It's actually a miracle that music-industry is still alive. What other industry could have survived over ten years people stealing your products in the internet and royalties and fees from writing songs go down 200 %, or something. THAT's why everything sound shit nowadays, nobody cares and the sound-technicians are not hired like they used to be. They were the first ones to go cause nobody sees them. Thank You.

Well, if the Stones actually would've put effort in getting the best sound and mix on their albums, maybe then the difference with MP3 would be more audible. All of their studio and live albums since Live Licks are mix and soundwise not among their best. They sound thin and too compressed and lacks dynamics.

MP3 is music for the mass, not really for the musical listener.

Re: why do the official youtube videos sound like sh*t?
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: May 6, 2013 10:07

Have they removed the videos from Youtube yet?



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