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Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: April 28, 2013 15:48

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Kurt, fellow posters seem to be irate due to my post.Bear in mind I also asked if it would be considered rude to Ronnie. Maybe he would have no problem letting the '69 to '74 lineup do a couple of songs together.
Also , sonomastone & DandelionPowderman, I don't need a history lesson on who played on what and when.I'm fully aware studio LIV was pre-Taylor with Cooder on mandolin-can't recall any live mandolin version.It is a Mick T era song nonetheless as it was played regularly live in his time.
And ridiculous comments such as"yeah, why doesnt Charlie and keith sit out as well"-same 'em for someone else's post.
tongue sticking out smiley

No worries!
I LOVE THE ROLLING STONES!

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: lazzzybones ()
Date: April 28, 2013 15:59

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Keith, Ronnie and Mick T. play togther well, no one has to sit it out.
Right, no-one HAS to sit out, and, yes, Ron is an awesome player, and yes, 3 guitars sound good but COULD MICK T JUST PLAY A COUPLE OF HIS ERA TUNES while Ron goes and does whatever Mick J does when he sits out.Sheesh!

Then WHY do you want this to happen?

What is really to be obtained by that?
I don't understand why there seems to be an issue with this.I'm not trying to "obtain" anything-just do it!

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: lazzzybones ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:04

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Look,I see no need for Mick T to sit in on any Ron Wood era tunes and vice-versa.But would it be rude for Ron to be asked to leave the stage when Mick T comes on Yes it would be! What a stupid question..Sure,since Ron has been playing Mick T's "bits" for nearly 40 years now he could play on a couple but is a third guitar really needed for Midnight Rambler,Love In Vain etc.-don't we all want Mick T to be given a chance to stretch out?Not all of us for sure!

Ronnie is a band member and MT not! He's in the band ten times longer than MT was.
MT is nothing more than a guest like all the other guest that have been playing with them.
Errrrr...."nothing more than a guest like all the other guest"? Getta offa my post you poor misguided fool.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:09

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Look,I see no need for Mick T to sit in on any Ron Wood era tunes and vice-versa.But would it be rude for Ron to be asked to leave the stage when Mick T comes on Yes it would be! What a stupid question..Sure,since Ron has been playing Mick T's "bits" for nearly 40 years now he could play on a couple but is a third guitar really needed for Midnight Rambler,Love In Vain etc.-don't we all want Mick T to be given a chance to stretch out?Not all of us for sure!

Ronnie is a band member and MT not! He's in the band ten times longer than MT was.
MT is nothing more than a guest like all the other guest that have been playing with them.
Errrrr...."nothing more than a guest like all the other guest"? Getta offa my post you poor misguided fool.

Very nice of you...thank you kindly...not very keen on getting other opinions, aren't you?

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:15

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Keith, Ronnie and Mick T. play togther well, no one has to sit it out.
Right, no-one HAS to sit out, and, yes, Ron is an awesome player, and yes, 3 guitars sound good but COULD MICK T JUST PLAY A COUPLE OF HIS ERA TUNES while Ron goes and does whatever Mick J does when he sits out.Sheesh!

Then WHY do you want this to happen?

What is really to be obtained by that?
I don't understand why there seems to be an issue with this.I'm not trying to "obtain" anything-just do it!

It is you who have made it in an issue that the guitarist that replaced the former guitarist when he chose to withdraw, shall step out during a couple of guest numbers from the former. You won't give no reason, but you continue to insist.

I am in no way opposed to Mick Taylor, in fact, I have expressed my wish and hope that he might rejoin the band.



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Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: lazzzybones ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:17

Roadster32, I'm looking for opinions on this but surely you don't consider Mick T's presence to be "just like any other guest".Do you actually know who he is?

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:19

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Roadster32, I'm looking for opinions on this but surely you don't consider Mick T's presence to be "just like any other guest".Do you actually know who he is?

I must confess I never heard of the guy...Dick Taylor? Who cares.



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Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:21

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Next stage will be: should Ronnie be asked to leave? After all, he's only been filling in all these years until the Only Acceptable Second Guitarist can return...

Seriously, if the three guitars sound good together (and when I heard them, they did) then I'd rather hear the band enjoy the new possibilities of that setup than try to take the time machine back to an exact recreation of 1972.

I'd love to see an exact recreation of 1972, but they had their chance in November and they blew it, and with Bill no longer involved, it's not gonna happen now anyway, so there's really no point in asking Ronnie to go outside and have a smoke.



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Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: lazzzybones ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:24

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Keith, Ronnie and Mick T. play togther well, no one has to sit it out.
Right, no-one HAS to sit out, and, yes, Ron is an awesome player, and yes, 3 guitars sound good but COULD MICK T JUST PLAY A COUPLE OF HIS ERA TUNES while Ron goes and does whatever Mick J does when he sits out.Sheesh!

Then WHY do you want this to happen?

What is really to be obtained by that?
I don't understand why there seems to be an issue with this.I'm not trying to "obtain" anything-just do it!

It is you who have made it in an issue that the guitarist that replaced the former guitarist when he chose to withdraw, shall step out during a couple of guest numbers from the former. You won't give no reason, but you continue to insist.

I am in no way opposed to Mick Taylor, in fact, I have expressed my wish and hope that he might rejoin the band.
I'm not opposed to Ron either! This is a golden opportunity for the band to perform in that lineup.I'd say the same if Brian were still alive.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: lazzzybones ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:34

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Roadster32, I'm looking for opinions on this but surely you don't consider Mick T's presence to be "just like any other guest".Do you actually know who he is?

I must confess I never heard of the guy...Dick Taylor? Who cares.
We all do, Roadster32.We all do.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:51

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.......................................... This is a golden opportunity for the band to perform in that lineup.I'd say the same if Brian were still alive.

All the same, I have to repeat that I find it rude to suggest that the replacing guitarist should leave the stage. It must suffice that the other band members (minus Bill Wyman) are playing.

[Apart from that, I prefer to consider the new possiblities instead of seeking nostalgia. I very much want to hear what the band might be able to create and develop as a three guitar band.]



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Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Beast ()
Date: April 28, 2013 16:56

Dream on and just be thankful that MT is even there at all. FGS.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: April 28, 2013 17:06

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Roadster32, I'm looking for opinions on this but surely you don't consider Mick T's presence to be "just like any other guest".Do you actually know who he is?

I have the same opinion as Roadster32, MT is nothing more than a guest these days, and he is NOT a member of the band.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: lazzzybones ()
Date: April 28, 2013 17:12

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Roadster32, I'm looking for opinions on this but surely you don't consider Mick T's presence to be "just like any other guest".Do you actually know who he is?

I have the same opinion as Roadster32, MT is nothing more than a guest these days, and he is NOT a member of the band.
(agitation creeping in here).duh!

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: April 28, 2013 17:20

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Roadster32, I'm looking for opinions on this but surely you don't consider Mick T's presence to be "just like any other guest".Do you actually know who he is?

I have the same opinion as Roadster32, MT is nothing more than a guest these days, and he is NOT a member of the band.

For a lot of people, his guest appearance is the only reason to even consider the possibility of paying these ridiculous prices to see them on this tour, and frankly, if two songs are all he's going to be doing, that's not reason enough.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: April 28, 2013 17:29

No Ronnie should play. He has been loyal, and is playing very well. Three guitars, or four, is fine live. Bring it on. Turn them all up loud!

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: VT22 ()
Date: April 28, 2013 17:35

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Ronnie is a Stone. I love how everyone compares based on their ability to solo which I prefer RW over MT in most cases style wise anyway. But a real guitar player has to be great at everything else. Ronnie is an awesome rhythmn player, awesome slide player, awesome riffer, and awesome pedal steel player.

After 38 years, I finally got used to it.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: April 28, 2013 17:44


Don't worry Geppetto. He may be made of .... wood, but he'll be a real boy any day now.



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Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: April 28, 2013 18:01

I disagree with those that say Mick T is no more than a guest. The line up with Taylor was brief, but it was those years in which the Stones were, without a doubt, the world's greatest rock and roll band. And that's the key for me.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: slew ()
Date: April 28, 2013 18:11

I for one will be interested to see how Mick T, Ronnie and Keith play together. It's better than Blondie playing in the shadows.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: vermontoffender ()
Date: April 28, 2013 18:14

The concept that Ronnie should leave the stage when Mick Taylor joins the Rolling Stones for a few songs is both absurd and an extremely helpful example of some of the delusional thinking that occurs on this board.

I'm truly sorry that your hero playing on tour in 2013 with the band that made his career isn't enough for you.

Try and enjoy the show, or shows, you're attending!

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: April 28, 2013 18:31

Imo Chuck should definitely sit out during any Stones numbers!

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Date: April 28, 2013 18:56

Hi hey just to be clear on this point, I saw Keith Richards about two or three weeks ago, maybe a month ago, on the Jimmy Fallon show, an American late-night talk show and he was quite emphatic and quite happy about having Make Taylor on stage playing with them.

It was interesting to hear him talk about the idea that in the studio he and Keith lay a number of tracks over to make up a finished song, yet onstage the challenge is to pick out which of those tracks are used and carried on to a live performance and which they'll have to leave behind. Keith was really happy and really beaming when he said how great it was to have Mick T on the tour, now thry'll be three guitars and it will give them more room to do more things.

So no disrespect intended to anyone in this thread but I think things will be quite fine!!!!

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: SundanceKid ()
Date: April 28, 2013 19:18

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Ronnie is a band member and MT not! He's in the band ten times longer than MT was.
MT is nothing more than a guest like all the other guest that have been playing with them.

Ehm... No, Mick T is not just another guest like all the others.
Everyone that's been at the O2, Prudential Center, or Echoplex shows appreciates why he's very important to the band. I'm sure that you will eventually come to realise this, too.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: April 28, 2013 19:25

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Ronnie is a band member and MT not! He's in the band ten times longer than MT was.
MT is nothing more than a guest like all the other guest that have been playing with them.

Ehm... No, Mick T is not just another guest like all the others.
Everyone that's been at the O2, Prudential Center, or Echoplex shows appreciates why he's very important to the band. I'm sure that you will eventually come to realise this, too.

Yes, maybe in another life.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: bestfour ()
Date: April 28, 2013 19:25

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Yes, it is so rude to make such a suggestion.

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Next stage will be: should Ronnie be asked to leave? After all, he's only been filling in all these years until the Only Acceptable Second Guitarist can return...

Seriously, if the three guitars sound good together (and when I heard them, they did) then I'd rather hear the band enjoy the new possibilities of that setup than try to take the time machine back to an exact recreation of 1972.

My secret dream is that after the concerts in Hyde Park as the latest fixed concert so far, Mick Taylor will rejoin the band as a fulltime member. That those new possibilities, which Green Lady mentions, will inspire a phase of recording sessions for an album, and that the buzz around Mick Taylor rejoining the band will occasion much more interest in a Rolling Stones studio album, due to the new possiblities. That the revived interest in a new studio offering from the Stones will make it possible to have much more new and I hope very good songs in setlists of following concerts.

This is wishthinking, but it is also the time for some wishes to come true.

I love and agree with your dream - it would make for an exiting new album as well as some brilliant concerts smileys with beer

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: April 28, 2013 19:30

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Ronnie is a band member and MT not! He's in the band ten times longer than MT was.
MT is nothing more than a guest like all the other guest that have been playing with them.

Ehm... No, Mick T is not just another guest like all the others.
Everyone that's been at the O2, Prudential Center, or Echoplex shows appreciates why he's very important to the band. I'm sure that you will eventually come to realise this, too.

Everyone? Who are you joking.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: April 28, 2013 19:54

It's the Stones business as to how they handle stage performance...not ours.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: April 28, 2013 20:02

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Yes, it is so rude to make such a suggestion.

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Next stage will be: should Ronnie be asked to leave? After all, he's only been filling in all these years until the Only Acceptable Second Guitarist can return...

Seriously, if the three guitars sound good together (and when I heard them, they did) then I'd rather hear the band enjoy the new possibilities of that setup than try to take the time machine back to an exact recreation of 1972.

My secret dream is that after the concerts in Hyde Park as the latest fixed concert so far, Mick Taylor will rejoin the band as a fulltime member. That those new possibilities, which Green Lady mentions, will inspire a phase of recording sessions for an album, and that the buzz around Mick Taylor rejoining the band will occasion much more interest in a Rolling Stones studio album, due to the new possiblities. That the revived interest in a new studio offering from the Stones will make it possible to have much more new and I hope very good songs in setlists of following concerts.

This is wishthinking, but it is also the time for some wishes to come true.

I love and agree with your dream - it would make for an exiting new album as well as some brilliant concerts smileys with beer

We can but hope. At the moment MT is still a guest, but not "just another guest" - he's a Very Special Guest (a much-overused term, but for him it's true). However, it looks as if he is being involved more this time than last, and this may continue and grow as time passes. It remains to be seen what they can do with a third guitar available. I just hope the band have the insight to use MT properly now they've got him.

Whatever the answer to 'Wood or Taylor?' was in the past, these days it's BOTH.

Re: Should Ronnie Sit It Out During Mick T Numbers?
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: April 28, 2013 20:04

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I disagree with those that say Mick T is no more than a guest. The line up with Taylor was brief, but it was those years in which the Stones were, without a doubt, the world's greatest rock and roll band. And that's the key for me.

I agree drbryant.

In many ways (if not all), Mick T's short stint with the Stones has overshadowed musically what the band has accomplished during the Ronnie era.

With that said, I do like Ronnie and believe Some Girls wouldn't be the same without his input.

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