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Bill Wyman is becoming tiresome with all his bleating of late. He got into the band purely on the strength of having a decent amp. They kept him in the band throughout the 60's, 70's and 80's...There were many better bass players they could have used, but they stuck with Bill - he was by then a Stone and the loyalty was there. It was his choice to walk away and if I remember correctly at the time he said in more than one interviews he had had enough of the band, the touring, the lack of recognisation for his song writing abilities. He moved on, set up his own relatively succesful band and, cough...became a metal detector of some noteriety!

Come 2012 and they are celebrating their 50 years and along with Taylor - who also walked away from them, they invite him to be a part of the party and he accepts. He plays on a couple of songs at some of the gigs as does Taylor. Now, if he wanted a bigger role in all this surely he should have had it clarified before he turned up for the first gig exactly what the deal was. I mean, if any one should know how the Glimmer Twins operate, it's Bill. It's no good turning up, getting a real buzz out of it and then saying well, I want more but they won't let me!

Bill should be glad they invited him, welcomed him, let him back into the greatest rock n roll band on the planet. If his attitude was a bit better maybe Jagger would have opened the door a little wider. TO me it all smacks of Wyman being a little ungrateful.

Wyman wasn't a little anything Newman!

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CrumblingMice, ..."a little ungrateful" It seems to me that both you and Mick have chosen your words re Bill very badly.

AND if Keith is such a great peacemaker, he might think about stepping up and showing a little further respect for Bill Wyman. As Bill did for him year in and year out in KR's years as a junkie.

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From the same article, Richards is more open to a Wyman return. "I don't close doors," he says. "But sometimes I lose the key."

What does that even mean??

It means Mick closes the door, then Keith locks it and throws the key away.

How could that not be more clear?

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CrumblingMice, ..."a little ungrateful" It seems to me that both you and Mick have chosen your words re Bill very badly.

AND if Keith is such a great peacemaker, he might think about stepping up and showing a little further respect for Bill Wyman. As Bill did for him year in and year out in KR's years as a junkie.

By accepting to play with him? His patience while waiting for Keith to turn up to sessions? What do you mean, exactly?

All we know is that is was indeed Keith who invited Wyman to the London sessions.

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It sounds a bit macabre. Like Mick put out a contract on Bill or something.

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"I was very happy to see him. I don't know, really, what he wanted, to be perfectly honest."

Maybe the courtesy of a soundcheck for a start?

Absolutely agree, although, Bill could have told Mick what he wanted instead of going to the press. Then again what does Mick think he wanted...THIS IS BILL WYMAN, 30 YRS IN THE BAND, THE BLOKE WHO SHARED STU'S VAN WITH THEM, THE BLOKE WHO WAS THERE FROM 1962, THE BLOKE WHO'S ARCHIVES HAVE BEEN INVALUABLE IN PROVIDING US GREAT RELEASES/INFO OVER THE PAST DECADE..THE BLOKE WHO WAS A KEY PART OF THE STONES SOUND..THE BLOKE WHO WANTED TO CELEBRATE THE 50TH SHOWS BY PLAYING FOR MORE THAN 8 MINUTES...It's not really hard to figure what he wanted Mick.

I know I'll get slapped down by Bill bashers but hey like or not YOU LOVE the music which he contributed to....

Right on Rollin92! I'm real surprised that this was not all worked out a few weeks in advance on what songs he would play on. Would Bill really remember the whole catalog of songs if he was to do a whole concert without proper rehearsals? Anyway, if anything was to happen to Darryl Jones before or during this next tour, you-know-who would probably be getting a call from you-know-who...

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The fact is that Bill was the bass player on the majority of great Stones recordings and concert performances.

In retrospect, perhaps the Stones should have simply asked him to appear in London last December and simply introduced him. No bass playing required. Keeping it to two songs was a slap in the face...like he was being given a favor.

If you didn't see the Stones with Bill, you missed something.

And I expect that Keith will ultimately show Wyman the respect he deserves.

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The fact is that Bill was the bass player on the majority of great Stones recordings and concert performances.

In retrospect, perhaps the Stones should have simply asked him to appear in London last December and simply introduced him. No bass playing required. Keeping it to two songs was a slap in the face...like he was being given a favor.

If you didn't see the Stones with Bill, you missed something.

And I expect that Keith will ultimately show Wyman the respect he deserves.

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The man, whom I've got the proper amount of respect for, being a founding and longtime member of THE ROLLING STONES, quit the band.

His position has been filled.
Coming back and doing anything more than a couple numbers on the 50th tour would have been unfair,and to criticize shows a lack of class.

Mick Taylor clearly showed the right attitude, graciousness, and talent to be asked to join up for the next round.

Bill, god love him, has shown the opposite. Unfortunately.

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At the first show Mick Taylor was like a kid in a toy store...

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Pity they all have to act like children at their age...could have been a special time for the band right now if they handled it right.

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Well, it's a bit disappointing, but not much of a surprise. I was at the O2 shows, and Bill being on stage again with the bad was wonderful. But honestly, I wasn't expecting more than a song or so. The problem is that unlike guitarists, a band needs only one bass player, and a band needs a bass player full-time. Bill clearly doesn't want to commit to being a full member of the band. So, I guess I kind of agree with Mick - what exactly would have been the "right" number? Three songs? Five?

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Well, it's a bit disappointing, but not much of a surprise. I was at the O2 shows, and Bill being on stage again with the bad was wonderful. But honestly, I wasn't expecting more than a song or so. The problem is that unlike guitarists, a band needs only one bass player, and a band needs a bass player full-time. Bill clearly doesn't want to commit to being a full member of the band. So, I guess I kind of agree with Mick - what exactly would have been the "right" number? Three songs? Five?

I've been thinking the same thing drbryant, how does a band incorporate more than one bass player for a tour? That's assuming that Bill Wyman was willing to tour, which he said he was not. It seems easy to add another guitarist, but I've never heard of more than one bass player. That may have been part of the problem as well, and where would that leave Darryl Jones? He has, after all, has been with them a very long time now.

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"I was very happy to see him. I don't know, really, what he wanted, to be perfectly honest."

Maybe the courtesy of a soundcheck for a start?

Absolutely agree, although, Bill could have told Mick what he wanted instead of going to the press. Then again what does Mick think he wanted...THIS IS BILL WYMAN, 30 YRS IN THE BAND, THE BLOKE WHO SHARED STU'S VAN WITH THEM, THE BLOKE WHO WAS THERE FROM 1962, THE BLOKE WHO'S ARCHIVES HAVE BEEN INVALUABLE IN PROVIDING US GREAT RELEASES/INFO OVER THE PAST DECADE..THE BLOKE WHO WAS A KEY PART OF THE STONES SOUND..THE BLOKE WHO WANTED TO CELEBRATE THE 50TH SHOWS BY PLAYING FOR MORE THAN 8 MINUTES...It's not really hard to figure what he wanted Mick.

I know I'll get slapped down by Bill bashers but hey like or not YOU LOVE the music which he contributed to....

Right on Rollin92! I'm real surprised that this was not all worked out a few weeks in advance on what songs he would play on. Would Bill really remember the whole catalog of songs if he was to do a whole concert without proper rehearsals? Anyway, if anything was to happen to Darryl Jones before or during this next tour, you-know-who would probably be getting a call from you-know-who...