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His Majesty
Never, ever would I say that the atmosphere of the Stones was relaxed and happy. These five incredibly strong personalities were definitely guarded, controlling their emotions. They weren't very open with EACH OTHER, so they certainly couldn't have appeared relaxed to outsiders! It was just this tension, a moodiness, a sulking. You could never call them hypocrites. They're all very real, whether their nastiness or niceness is showing. But they exercised what I'd describe as controlling silences... They're not demonstrative. It's a loose-sounding band but they're not loose people! I've never in my life experienced five such uptight people. On the other hand, if somebody's sick or in a crisis, they have always been very good and loyal.
- Astrid Lundstrom, quoted in
Bill Wyman's Stone Alone (1990)
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His Majesty
Never, ever would I say that the atmosphere of the Stones was relaxed and happy. These five incredibly strong personalities were definitely guarded, controlling their emotions. They weren't very open with EACH OTHER, so they certainly couldn't have appeared relaxed to outsiders! It was just this tension, a moodiness, a sulking. You could never call them hypocrites. They're all very real, whether their nastiness or niceness is showing. But they exercised what I'd describe as controlling silences... They're not demonstrative. It's a loose-sounding band but they're not loose people! I've never in my life experienced five such uptight people. On the other hand, if somebody's sick or in a crisis, they have always been very good and loyal.
- Astrid Lundstrom, quoted in
Bill Wyman's Stone Alone (1990)
So maybe the cliched family and marriage analogies are quite near the truth.
Astrid's description is that of a typically dysfunctional english family ;^)
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gotdablouse
Er...so how does that fit in with "Stone Alone", "Rolling with the Stones" and that coffee table thing he's currently peddling? Oddly enough the dude who wrote that "article" seems to know nothing about them and Bill certainly hadn't "fallen out" with Mick & Co in 89/90 since he was still a band member in 1991 and says (in RWTS) that Mick and Charlie swung by his place one last time in 1992 (or 1993?) to see if would change his mind. If anything Mick just considered him to be part of the furniture and couldn't be bothered either way, except for the "best to have as many original members as possible" marketing spiel.
Anyway it seems like Bill is strapped for cash so he'll just keep on writing books!
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Stoneage
Maybe Bill is to much of an historian? I would rather read a 150 paged kiss and tell story than a 650 paged book of statistics.
As valuable as Bill's work is as an archivist, his was the only RS book that I didn't finish.
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Stoneage
Maybe Bill is to much of an historian? I would rather read a 150 paged kiss and tell story than a 650 paged book of statistics.
As valuable as Bill's work is as an archivist, his was the only RS book that I didn't finish.
Yes I understand...I had the same challenge as I was distracted by the need to watch my paint dry.
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Erik_Snow
I always find Bill Wyman interviews a lot more interesting than interviews with any other stone.....
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Silver Dagger
... He also expressed his anger that he wasn’t given sufficient credit as a songwriter and described Sir Mick as an “egomaniac”...
which I always find quite humorous ... In Stone Alone, Bill writes that in the early days, when Mick & Keith started writing, they spent all their time, after shows, holed up & writing tunes, while Bill & Brian went to clubs to get laid (he doesn't really mention what Charlie was doing). So it seems that Bill set himself up to not partake in the writing process, and later, when he saw how profitable it became, suddenly was bitter over it.
And to be fair, the songs Bill has written on his solo albums, are just "okay" at best.
Bill also complains that he wrote Jumping Jack Flash, but most of the evidence points against that (in particular that the riff is really just a adjustment of Satisfaction).
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TeddyB1018
Things didn't go terribly well between Bill and the Stones in the New Jersey rehearsals.
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Silver Dagger
... He also expressed his anger that he wasn’t given sufficient credit as a songwriter and described Sir Mick as an “egomaniac”...
which I always find quite humorous ... In Stone Alone, Bill writes that in the early days, when Mick & Keith started writing, they spent all their time, after shows, holed up & writing tunes, while Bill & Brian went to clubs to get laid (he doesn't really mention what Charlie was doing). So it seems that Bill set himself up to not partake in the writing process, and later, when he saw how profitable it became, suddenly was bitter over it.
And to be fair, the songs Bill has written on his solo albums, are just "okay" at best.
Bill also complains that he wrote Jumping Jack Flash, but most of the evidence points against that (in particular that the riff is really just a adjustment of Satisfaction).
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Bill as a matter of fact has had time enough before and after he quit to proof he can write decent songs. He failed completely. He now behaves like a bitter old man. Its as simple as that, he lost his lottery win by leaving the Stones and the more he says he has never regretted that decision the more I don't believe him.
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TeddyB1018
Things didn't go terribly well between Bill and the Stones in the New Jersey rehearsals.
Teddy, what do you mean? Do you talk about the rehearsals before the December shows or the spring rehearsals - I do not remember exactly when they were in March or April or something. There was no information about his involvement in both of these events. Please tell more
- or are you just kidding?
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DandelionPowderman
When Teddy shares info, no matter how sparse, you should be careful calling it BS. One day we might not get more drops of valuable info.
Just my two cents...
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24FPS
Do all English people have a problem with just telling each other what's bugging them?