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Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:40




Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: February 10, 2013 14:55

weeks is awesome and will be playing for weeks at a time with clapton, on his upcoming us tour....

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: microvibe ()
Date: February 10, 2013 15:07

great player.underrated

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: February 10, 2013 17:06

love to listen to Willie Weeks. that bass is beautiful, the sound, the color, and the way he plays.

very creative time for Ronnie.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: JuanTCB ()
Date: February 10, 2013 17:47

I was treated to the Willie Weeks/Steve Jordan rhythm section with Ronnie in AC last April and then with Clapton at 12.12.12. They're a fantastic pair. Hopefully, they'll show up on more Stones-related projects soon - they both groove with power!

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: February 10, 2013 18:14

Willie is really great at Crotch Music....the Stones are oriented more around the pocketbook so it probably wouldn't work.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: bbkink ()
Date: February 11, 2013 08:09

WOW! Somebody was reading my mind today. This is just plain strange, but in a good way.

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Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: February 11, 2013 10:08

We recognize a kind of kinship with Stones.




I saw Eric Clapton with Willie Weeks, Steve Jordan, Derek Trucks and Doyle Bramhall II in Tokyo. Good performance.

Boz Scaggs returns with "Memphis" in coming March.
Willie and Steve are joining on this album.

on Busetto Travel Bass



Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: February 12, 2014 12:08

5.55-6.08







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-02-12 12:08 by Redhotcarpet.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: February 12, 2014 12:25

Willie Weeks is amazing but I'd rather he stayed with EC. He played on the IORR album didn't he?

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: erad ()
Date: February 12, 2014 13:09

Studio version of Crotch Music is reat, Mick Taylor is on it if I'm not mistaken?

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 12, 2014 13:28

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erad
Studio version of Crotch Music is reat, Mick Taylor is on it if I'm not mistaken?

A fantastic Ronnie/Taylor on-slaught in there thumbs up

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 12, 2014 15:05

From memory Crotch Music credits 'Guitar Effects' to Keith and Ronnie - but I'll check.

Taylor plays bass? - and synth? - on Shirley.

Just an all-round, all-star, all-good album.
Win, win, win.


......but I have another solution to their bass(ic) problem (which is lack of core band bass-player sans Bill).

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: mighty stork ()
Date: February 12, 2014 18:18

Does anyone know why he was replaced with Stanley Clarke for the main tour?


Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 13, 2014 23:19

Their never was a First Barbarians. That's just a retrospective title for the band that was the cor of Ronnie's first album in '74.

They did 2 gigs to promote that album. (This sweet sixteen-year-old witnessed one of them),

In 1979 Ronnie formed a band to tour his solo stuff and some Stones numbers. But that band (New Barbarians) was not the core of his '79 album. which had, from memory, a more varied cast - and thogh Mac and Keith were on some numbers I don't think (will have to check) that S. Clarke and Zig Modeliste were on every number.
Mick fleetwood played on one number - Dylan's Seven Days, (the single).

Strength of Ronnie's first album was that it was recorded in one place - his house, The Wick, (means 'harbour' and is same as Bjornulf's surname Vik) - with a core cast of musicians, some of whom basically lived there - like Keith. Others dropping by - such as Taylor.

Very reminiscent of Nellcote if you think about it.

I found the sleeve notes to 'Own Album' - copiously and humourously illustrated by Woodie.

Crotch Music has Keith Ronnie AND Weeks credited with guitar effects. taylor is not on it - but Mac plays the ARP synthesiser which BELONGED to Taylor!

Taylor plays on many tracks - but he plays guitar on only one - Keith's Sure the One You Need.

He plays HIS(!) ARP synth on If You Gotta make a Fool of Somebody.
Mac plays that instrument on Shirley, on which taylor plays wurlitzer and bass.

Taylor plays bass on Far East Man.

So eat your heart out Willie Weeks - there's another bass-player in the house!

Taylor's ARP features on 4 out of 10 tracks, Where would they have been without him?

And what does a Wurlitzer look like?

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 14, 2014 00:39

Quote
Deluxtone
From memory Crotch Music credits 'Guitar Effects' to Keith and Ronnie - but I'll check.

Taylor plays bass? - and synth? - on Shirley.

Just an all-round, all-star, all-good album.
Win, win, win.


......but I have another solution to their bass(ic) problem (which is lack of core band bass-player sans Bill).

Taylor plays co-lead with Ronnie on both.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 14, 2014 00:43

....Maybe Willie don't own a fax-machine ....



ROCKMAN

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 14, 2014 01:03

Taylor is evidently on Crotch Music, deluxe. No Keith on the album version.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 14, 2014 13:50

I have the original vinyl and accompanying sleeve notes:

They clearly state (in Ronnie's fair hand):

WOOD, WEEKS, RICHARDS > GUITAR EFFECTS

I know nothing about the deluxe version - info very welcome - extra tracks? 2 Versions of Crotch Music? Personnel info?

I have checked Ronnie's '79 album and it's almost all Charlie on Drums - and Woody much on bass.

Taylor (as wll as Richards) plays also on Ronnie's second solo outing, Now Look, 1975.

So it rather puts paid to the idea of a rift between Richards and Taylor.
It shows how Wood and Taylor were pals then - as they were acquintances in the 60s.

But nearly everyone is a friend of Wood.

A Ronnie is a man's best friend.
Weeks and Newman are the Rhythm section on that.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 14, 2014 14:32

I was referring to you (deluxe) smiling smiley

A closer listen reveals that the guitar I always thought was Taylor in the left channel indeed is Ronnie!

Two Ronnie-guitars + the percussive guitar who enter the bridges + lots of Ronnie solo guitars in the ending. No Keith on this. The liner notes are wrong.




Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 14, 2014 17:13

At least 3 Guitars, I think, DP.

And as well as 'Guitar Effects' (which Ronnie credits (wrongly or rightly) to himself, KR and WW) - he also credits himself to Electric GuitarS (with an 's' at the end.

So you right - 2 Ronnie guitars - and some other 'effects'!

Hey Ho.

Info on the deluxe? How different to vinyl original?

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 14, 2014 17:36

There is no deluxe release! Look at the comma in this sentence:

"Taylor is evidently on Crotch Music, deluxe".

Don't forget what your own moniker is, LOL! grinning smiley

There are two guitars on the verses, a third guitar that enters on the bridges (but plays very sparsely) + some overdubbed guitars in the ending, played by Ronnie.

For 35 years, I've thought that the left guitar was Taylor. Thanks for contributing to me opening my ears thumbs up

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 17, 2014 12:13

Fine, yes. my blinking 'moniker'.

I'm assuming therefore you don't have the vinyl original with Ronnie's full fold-out insert.

Worth buying just for that-even if you don't like or play vinyl.

I'm now wondering about recording dates of Now Look Summer '74? - i.e before Taylor left the Stones.

But Taylor was still playing with Keith in '76 (or late '75?) on the John Phillips tracks (while Keith was hanging out there - California?)

Perhaps it's all in Keith's Bio.
Recording dates of New Look probably in Woodie's Bio.

I've read neither.

Pete Townsend later bought The Wick. Can't remember when - but it's in his Bio!

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 17, 2014 12:57

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Deluxtone
Fine, yes. my blinking 'moniker'.

I'm assuming therefore you don't have the vinyl original with Ronnie's full fold-out insert.

Worth buying just for that-even if you don't like or play vinyl.

I'm now wondering about recording dates of Now Look Summer '74? - i.e before Taylor left the Stones.

But Taylor was still playing with Keith in '76 (or late '75?) on the John Phillips tracks (while Keith was hanging out there - California?)

Perhaps it's all in Keith's Bio.
Recording dates of New Look probably in Woodie's Bio.

I've read neither.

Pete Townsend later bought The Wick. Can't remember when - but it's in his Bio!

I have the vinyl, but it is a different release called "Cancel Everything".



The only thing I know about Now Look and Taylor is that he played on It's Unholy.

Info about It's Unholy and recording (from Nico Zentrgraf):

740400B late April - early June: RON WOOD. London, The Wick. Producer: Ron Wood
and Gary Kellgren. Sound engineers: Chuch McGee, Mike Bobak, Ron Nevison and Gary Kellgren.

- Act Together (Mick Jagger/Keith Richards)
- Am I Grooving You (Bert Russell/Jeff Barry)
- Breathe On Me I (Ron Wood)
- Breathe On Me II (Ron Wood) -edit
- Cancel Everything (Ron Wood)
- Caribbean Boogie (Ron Wood)
- Crotch Music (Willie Weeks)
- Far East Man (Ron Wood/George Harrison)
- Forever (Ron Wood)
- I Can Feel The Fire (Ron Wood)
- I Can Say She’s Alright I (Ron Wood)
- I Can’t Stand The Rain (Donald Bryant/Ann Peebles/Bernard Miller)
- If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody (Rudy Clark)
- It’s Unholy (Ron Wood)
- Money Money (Ron Wood) -unverified
- Mystifies Me (Ron Wood)
- Now Look (Ron Wood)
- Shirley (Ron Wood)
- Sure The One You Need (Mick Jagger/Keith Richards)
- Take A Look At The Guy I (Ron Wood)
- Take A Look At The Guy II (Ron Wood) -edited promoversion

Note: The songs with Mick Taylor got recorded before Willie Weeks arrived. The tracks with Keith Richards got recorded on the last three (of the five
weeks) of recordings. All in all about 25 songs got recorded.

Do you have info on Taylor and Keith recording with Phillips simultaneously? I always thought they did separate overdub sessions, but I don't know it for a fact..



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-02-17 13:02 by DandelionPowderman.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 17, 2014 18:00

So, much of Now Look recorded at the Own Album sessions.
But not all.

Now Look credits Taylor with Slide Guitar - but there's not a track by track breakdown as there is on the Own Album insert.

Re Phillips:

I think that Taylor and Richards did at least cross paths in the studio - there's the story of when Taylor came in to record his solo for Sweet Virginia - perfectly in one (or two?) takes: Keith is said to have said, "Now I know why I always hated you!".

When I listen to Zulu Warrior which has the classic Keith/Taylor sound -= it's hard to imagine them not playing it together in the studio. But perhaps it's another Taylor overdub.

Perhaps Phillips' Bio has some info on that?

(I'd be interested to know when the rest of Now Look was recorded).

I think that Gimme Some Neck was a dip in form - kind of thrown together, with Woody doing bass and stuff - though it did lead to a live outing.

I much prefer the feeling of 1234 - genearlly better songs and playing - and less drugged out!

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 17, 2014 18:14

750400A early April: RON WOOD. Richmond, England, The Wick (RW’s homestudio).
Producers: RW, Ian McLagan and Bobby Womack. Sound engineer:
Keith Harwood. First sessions for the upcoming 'Now Look'-album.
Note: For more info and musicians, see 750414A.

750414A 14th - 21st April: RON WOOD. Baambrugge, (near Amsterdam), Holland,
B.B.C. Studios. Producers: RW, Ian McLagan and Bobby Womack. Sound
engineer: Keith Harwood. Incl.
- Big Bayou (Gib Gilbeau)
- I Can Say She’s Alright II (RW/Bobby Womack)
- If You Don’t Want My Love I (Bobby Womack/Gordon T. Witt) -edit
- If You Don’t Want My Love II (Bobby Womack/Gordon T. Witt) -Now
Look-version
- I Got A Feeling (Bobby Womack/Ian McLagan/Jean Roussell) -The Womack
Sisters on backing vocals
- I Got Lost When I Found You (RW/Bobby Womack)
- Sweet Baby Mine (Jim Ford/Bobby Womack)
Line-up: RW (gtr, voc)/Bobby Womack (gtr, voc)/Ian McLagan (org, p)/Willie
Weeks (bass)/Andy Newmark (dr)/Jean Roussell (el p, synth, clavinet)
Note: Recordings mixed in Electric Ladyland Studios and The Record Plant
Studios, New York City during late April.
'I Can Say She’s Alright' with KR on guitar was begun at The Wick in
Spring 1974.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 19, 2014 11:49

Yes, the Wood/Womack combination was a very right-sounding and productive one. A very natural and professional feel to Now Look.

Ronnie's solo-work sessions of '74 and '75 -

- makes you wonder if he realised that the writing was on the wall wrt to future of the Faces.

Did he miss the camaradarie of Faces work once Ronnie Lane left?

Did he see that Rod was the 'star attraction' in the band and sense that Rod was going to concentrate on his solo stuff?

I think that Rod blames the Stones for breaking up the Faces - but really, once Ronnie lane left, hadn't a large part of that band's soul left and it could never be the same?

Just random thoughts. Perhaps all 'dealt with' in Ronnie's Bio!

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 19, 2014 12:02

Lots of good stuff about the Faces (Lane era, Tetsu, Jesse Ed Davis-75 lineup etc.) in Mac's brilliant "All The Rage" as well thumbs up

IMO, Something definitely happened with the band when Ronnie left, but also because Rod gradually became more successful as a solo artist..

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Posted by: Deluxtone ()
Date: February 24, 2014 13:29

OK. Thanks.

Will read All The Rage - order on Amazon this week.

Re: Willie Weeks - why not ask him to join
Date: February 24, 2014 13:34

Order it from Mac's own webpage. He'll sign it for you.

www.macspages.com



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