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Darryl is well educated, academic jazz player...and Bill Wyman was a punk rock n roll player...Rolling Stones are rock n roll band ...so why on earth they decided to have this jazz guy ? - It's like.. having Eddie Van Halen replace Keith, - sorry -it wouldnt be the same
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and i'm sure i speak for the community when i say we miss the bass player who would just stand there, play while chewing gum and with that disdained look on his face, suggesting he'd rather be anywhere else. the band just doesn't feel right without that disdaining look.
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and i'm sure i speak for the community when i say we miss the bass player who would just stand there, play while chewing gum and with that disdained look on his face, suggesting he'd rather be anywhere else. the band just doesn't feel right without that disdaining look.
Coolest image ever!
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Surely it must be some kind of record for a bass player to be in a band for twenty years and still not be considered an official member?
He's been with the band for a longer period than Brian Jones and Mick Taylor put together.
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its rocked around the world for 20 years with Darryl
it is what it is. still not sure I agree with Dylan's (offhand) remark about the Stones turning into a funk band after Bill retired.
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Surely it must be some kind of record for a bass player to be in a band for twenty years and still not be considered an official member?
He's been with the band for a longer period than Brian Jones and Mick Taylor put together.
The thing is...hes not "in the band" anymore than Chuck L. or Bobby Keys are. Nevermind that he's been on every tour since Wyman left. The official Stones have chosen not to replace Wyman with another member. When they decide to work, they call D. Jones and he comes to work for them for whatever salary they're choosing to pay him. Even Ron Wood was not made a full member until the early 90's. Mick and Keith don't share the wealth very freely.
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and i'm sure i speak for the community when i say we miss the bass player who would just stand there, play while chewing gum and with that disdained look on his face, suggesting he'd rather be anywhere else. the band just doesn't feel right without that disdaining look.
Coolest image ever!
it was. sigh. i'm getting a little verklempt here....
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Someone said the "roll" disappeared with Bill. Maybe that's it?
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
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Darryl's a hired hand. He sold out to the big money of the Stones.
That's kind of a silly thing to say. Hired hand yes, but sold out? Because he can make a decent living now? Besides, The Stones weren't the first high profile gig he took, he was touring with Sting in the 80's and with Madonna in 1990. Why does the Stones gig make him a sell-out?
I just think he's a lazy musician in relation to his work with the Stones. Either he can't, or doesn't care enough to put his own stamp on the music. This is a band of idiosyncratic players. Except for Taylor they were not especially technical giants. But they all had a feel. All right, maybe he's not a sell out for the Stones. Maybe he's just a sell out in general. It's not because he's black. In fact it's confounding that a black bass player can't come in and give a little swing to the Stones rhythm section. But he doesn't. Sonny Rollins came in and added to the sound and walked away with 'Waiting On A Friend'.
Maybe sell out isn't a good term. But he's not a great artist either as a part of the most incredible rhythm section in rock, or even a top tier member of the great Stones sidemen. It's akin to replacing Keith Moon with Kenney Jones; it had to be done but it wasn't done right.
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
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Bill's playing on Brussels is all you need to know.. He is a pioneer and a force to be reckoned with... Darryl's just not that good. In 20 years he should have made an impact and place for himself.
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
It was a postface on that so amazingly ignorant comment! It's so out of touch it needed a postface comment.
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
Any other inaccuracies so far in 2013 that can challenge this one?
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
It was a postface on that so amazingly ignorant comment! It's so out of touch it needed a postface comment.
ok. but this is a dangerous precedence-setting move that could have major extended storage impact for this site. amazingly ignorant comments are now the rule rather than the exception, you know....
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
It was a postface on that so amazingly ignorant comment! It's so out of touch it needed a postface comment.
ok. but this is a dangerous precedence-setting move that could have major extended storage impact for this site. amazingly ignorant comments are now the rule rather than the exception, you know....
Are you saying it's... NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Global Ignoranting!!!???
How can it be stopped?
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
It was a postface on that so amazingly ignorant comment! It's so out of touch it needed a postface comment.
ok. but this is a dangerous precedence-setting move that could have major extended storage impact for this site. amazingly ignorant comments are now the rule rather than the exception, you know....
Are you saying it's... NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Global Ignoranting!!!???
How can it be stopped?
it can only be done at the polls. the power of the vote can never be replaced...
Well I'm willing to take my lumps here and have respect for you guys but I stand firm that Darrell is not a rocker or not allowed to do his job properly. Chuck is a fish out of water as multi keyboard player, he fell into this role with Clapton. On the reverse he's one of the greatest rock pianists alive. I'm curious as to why you'd want him chucked. perhaps it's personal? Maybe they shouldn't hire "yanks". Peace...Quote
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
It was a postface on that so amazingly ignorant comment! It's so out of touch it needed a postface comment.
ok. but this is a dangerous precedence-setting move that could have major extended storage impact for this site. amazingly ignorant comments are now the rule rather than the exception, you know....
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DoomandGloomWell I'm willing to take my lumps here and have respect for you guys but I stand firm that Darrell is not a rocker or not allowed to do his job properly. Chuck is a fish out of water as multi keyboard player, he fell into this role with Clapton. On the reverse he's one of the greatest rock pianists alive. I'm curious as to why you'd want him chucked. perhaps it's personal? Maybe they shouldn't hire "yanks". Peace...Quote
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
It was a postface on that so amazingly ignorant comment! It's so out of touch it needed a postface comment.
ok. but this is a dangerous precedence-setting move that could have major extended storage impact for this site. amazingly ignorant comments are now the rule rather than the exception, you know....
I meant American. I think he's from Louisiana. Nice guy I thought.Quote
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DoomandGloomWell I'm willing to take my lumps here and have respect for you guys but I stand firm that Darrell is not a rocker or not allowed to do his job properly. Chuck is a fish out of water as multi keyboard player, he fell into this role with Clapton. On the reverse he's one of the greatest rock pianists alive. I'm curious as to why you'd want him chucked. perhaps it's personal? Maybe they shouldn't hire "yanks". Peace...Quote
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DoomandGloomNope there are other reasons but it's a great bassists responsibility to make those mistakes impossible or less probable. He does not make the impact Bill did as Bill was very definite about sections sometimes using long swipes like Enthwistle (Whoop, Whoop). I heard a clip of Keith and Ron with Willie Weeks, where's that guy???? Clapton and Neil Young for instance change sidemen from time to time to keep things fresh, Stones are likely too lazy but at the very least Chuck should be featured on grand piano, he's out of his element as keyboard tech geek and he's much too fine a pianist to be wasted in the mud. Considering Chuck's knowledge of the material he should be allowed to do what few can do on a real piano.Quote
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Darryl does not lead the band or is not allowed to lead the band as a proper bass player should. His does not define choruses of section changes as well as Bill did and it is one of the causes of many of the train wrecks The Stones are making a habit of.
Hmmm, who else is responsible for these "wrecks"?
None...I think we can agree this is all completely Darryl's fault.
What a bunch of crap that is. Most bloated inaccuracy of 2013. Darryl should be leading and preventing them from the trainwrecks Keith causes? Chuck should be on a real piano? Chuck should be FIRED.
it's all crap - i see no reason to preface one's comment with such a clause. it's a given....
It was a postface on that so amazingly ignorant comment! It's so out of touch it needed a postface comment.
ok. but this is a dangerous precedence-setting move that could have major extended storage impact for this site. amazingly ignorant comments are now the rule rather than the exception, you know....
hmmm...chuck a yank? a redneck, perhaps...but no yank.
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i think he's from georgia. what does everyone else think?
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i think he's from georgia. what does everyone else think?
georgia. the man is from georgia.
and Darryl is from Chicago.
lots of good music out of those two cities..