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The Worst.
I can't understand why they didn't play Gimme Shelter. The lyrics would have fit perferct.
Gimme Shelter is WAY too dark and apocalyptic for an event like this.Quote
The Worst.
I can't understand why they didn't play Gimme Shelter. The lyrics would have fit perferct.
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TeddyB1018
Christ. This place. The Stones were great. They were not allowed to play more than the short set because of the upfront deal with the WWE, which preceded their joining this event. They headed straight to Newark to rehearse and work on sound. Everyone complains that they don't play anything after 1981 (including the New York Times review), so they play something a bit more recent, and people complain. I thought they were far and away the most spirited of the old guard and the guitars sounded nice and dirty and Charlie swing. As for he others, Eric's set was classy and Bruce was Bruce. I thought The Who and Eoger Waters were ossified classic rock. McCartney's set was kind of bizarre.
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TeddyB1018
Christ. This place. The Stones were great. They were not allowed to play more than the short set because of the upfront deal with the WWE, which preceded their joining this event. They headed straight to Newark to rehearse and work on sound. Everyone complains that they don't play anything after 1981(including the New York Times review), so they play something a bit more recent, and people complain. I thought they were far and away the most spirited of the old guard and the guitars sounded nice and dirty and Charlie swing. As for he others, Eric's set was classy and Bruce was Bruce. I thought The Who and Eoger Waters were ossified classic rock. McCartney's set was kind of bizarre.
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TeddyB1018
Christ. This place. The Stones were great. They were not allowed to play more than the short set because of the upfront deal with the WWE, which preceded their joining this event. They headed straight to Newark to rehearse and work on sound. Everyone complains that they don't play anything after 1981(including the New York Times review), so they play something a bit more recent, and people complain. I thought they were far and away the most spirited of the old guard and the guitars sounded nice and dirty and Charlie swing. As for he others, Eric's set was classy and Bruce was Bruce. I thought The Who and Eoger Waters were ossified classic rock. McCartney's set was kind of bizarre.
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stonesrule
I agree the Stones were a non-factor.
StrawberriesBlueberries, I am assuming you have never stood on stage in a big arena but some of your critiques of Jagger on stage are ridiculous...to put it politely. I enjoyed your feelings re "Lady Jane" but that was then and this is now. Strawberries, When you've performed in front of 20,000 people on a big stage, then I will respect your opinions.
It generally takes at least two songs for most bands to get into the groove and Jagger doesn't have any particular breathing problems. And, Keith who was "sick" seemed quite well tonight.
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superrevvy
Maybe because my tastes have changed, I'm still not particularly impressed with
the Stones act this time around BUT
I am totally amazed that Keith has significantly improved with each show,
loosening up, gaining confidence. He's definitely in the acceptable range now.
If he can step it up two more notches by Saturday, it will be quite something.
Otherwise, I was of course happy to hear Mick echo just a bit of my cynicism about
this event. "If it rains in London, you come help us, okay?" lol
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The Sicilian
All in all it was a fun night. Very enjoyable. I didn't even know the last 12 songs
If anything it gave you a look at the condition of most of the major players in classic rock. Too bad Zeppelin couldn't be there. I'd love to see this show on tour. Kind of like the old Motown Revue.
I hate to say this but I really think the Stones have allowed themselves to become trapped in this hole of no change. They can't climb out of it. They are locked into this set performance with no deviations. Like a bunch of stubborn old men. Look at all the compliments on how good they sound...at playing the same songs. Satisfaction was great, JJF was the best yet. People, they have been playing them since 1969. Enough said.
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The Worst.
I can't understand why they didn't play Gimme Shelter. The lyrics would have fit perferct.
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stonesrule
I agree the Stones were a non-factor.
StrawberriesBlueberries, I am assuming you have never stood on stage in a big arena but some of your critiques of Jagger on stage are ridiculous...to put it politely. I enjoyed your feelings re "Lady Jane" but that was then and this is now. Strawberries, When you've performed in front of 20,000 people on a big stage, then I will respect your opinions.
It generally takes at least two songs for most bands to get into the groove and Jagger doesn't have any particular breathing problems. And, Keith who was "sick" seemed quite well tonight.
I didn't state Keith was sick, if you still referred to me with that. I only thought it was a possibility, he was, as some source stated it as a reason for Keith not being on Letterman. But I also thought, it could have been an excuse, because he maybe just didn't want to go. Who knows, what is true. It doesn't really matter, since he looked and played fine.
No, I never stood on a stage in an arena. I would be scared for sure. But there are other, experienced artists, that do and don't seem to be that stressed at the beginning of their performance. Keith for example, standing in front of the same audience during his solo slots, doesn't look as cramped as Mick sometimes does, when entering the stage. Most probably because he doesn't feel the obligation to move that much. So it's at least possible to act more relaxed for some performers in front of 20,000 people. Everbody is different, okay, I know, some are more nervous than others. But I simply get the impression, that Mick sometimes wants to do it too good, too perfect, even better than when he was, lets say, 30. And this 'wanting to do it better' often seems to focus on the most energetic and wild 'moves like Jagger' performance possible, driven by a really amazing willpower but at the expense of singing and feeling. His attitude changed in this respect, he used to be more relaxed, sensitive or spontaneous, or at least behaved and looked that way, even at the beginning of a performance (all only based on the video and audio material I know). Everytime he finds this back, I think he is captivating. To me he had several of these great moments during the last gigs in London (didn't see much of the Brooklyn concert videos yet).
About "particular breathing problems: I don't think they are particularly a Mick problem, in fact it is remarkable, he doesn't have more breathing problems. The way he jumps and runs, most people would be out of breath doing that, even younger ones like me. But I'm convinced, he had some problems at the beginning of the White House gig, for example, so one can't say, he never has any. And apparently the reason for this was his wild dancing, mixed maybe with an understandable nervousness, while not being warmed up enough, yet. So I wonder, if it is neccessary, if it serves the song, especially when he still needs to warm up.
I didn't say Mick was awful on this Sandy benefit, I really liked YGMR, which was good despite being the first song, and I thought JJF was okay (Mick-wise, the band was great on both songs, I think, though I focused on Mick). But since I sensed some breathlessness towards the end, JJF would probably have profited singingwise by Mick moving less and not demanding that much of himself. This is all my interpretation and you, of course, may disagree. Also it was my first impression on watching it, I can hardly remember the performance now, after all this writing about it and concerts in general. I will have to watch it again for more impressions. I didn't want to make it that long, I think this little, short performance isn't really worth a long analysis. But I wanted to expain my opinion more generally, not only for these two songs.
By the way, having listened to Paul MacCartney on the show, while writing, he seems to have real troubles with his voice. Does he have a cold or hoarse? Didn't he sound a little bit hoarse during the Queen's celebrations already?
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superrevvy
Maybe because my tastes have changed, I'm still not particularly impressed with
the Stones act this time around BUT
I am totally amazed that Keith has significantly improved with each show,
loosening up, gaining confidence. He's definitely in the acceptable range now.
If he can step it up two more notches by Saturday, it will be quite something.
Otherwise, I was of course happy to hear Mick echo just a bit of my cynicism about
this event. "If it rains in London, you come help us, okay?" lol