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Is it Darryl?

It's Charlie on Bass since he did not play Drums. He had to do something!

That is what I mean. Perfect example you have by naming When The Whip.
Wyman was so integrated a part of the group, that he can never be replaced.
That is why I respect Darryl, because he is not trying to fill Wymans shoes, he acts a backing musician. Though I'm not doubting that he could dominate if he chose to. And I have heard him in a lot of other bands, and I am not in doubt still, that he is one of the best best bass players in the world. Wyman is the best bassist -for The Stones.

And Keith, he played guitar ?

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That is what I mean. Perfect example you have by naming When The Whip.
Wyman was so integrated a part of the group, that he can never be replaced.
That is why I respect Darryl, because he is not trying to fill Wymans shoes, he acts a backing musician. Though I'm not doubting that he could dominate if he chose to. And I have heard him in a lot of other bands, and I am not in doubt still, that he is one of the best best bass players in the world. Wyman is the best bassist -for The Stones.

THAT I agree with

Not sure who's playing except it sure isn't Bill Wyman.

Darryl is doing exactly what Keith and Mick want him to do. I wouldn't attack his style or chops with the Stones, he is certainly capable of playing more like Wyman but he is a sympathetic player and plays what works to make the others happy, imho. He comes from the Chuck Leavell school of Stonesmanship. peace

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Not sure who's playing except it sure isn't Bill Wyman.

Darryl is doing exactly what Keith and Mick want him to do. I wouldn't attack his style or chops with the Stones, he is certainly capable of playing more like Wyman but he is a sympathetic player and plays what works to make the others happy, imho. He comes from the Chuck Leavell school of Stonesmanship. peace

No one's attacking Darryl, and I think he does a fine job.

However, I think Mick and Keith are a bit lazy about how the bass should be included in the rhythm section. I suspect they're happy with Darryl doing his thing, playing in key.

Of course, Darryl is a magnificent player, and I've heard him with Miles Davis etc.

I'm not so sure it's that easy to play like Bill, neither to play like Ronnie and Keith for skilled musicians. It's VERY hard to limit oneself musically - and to fool around with the rhythm like they do is particularly hard. Not hard in terms of technical challenges - certainly not - but it's more like ditching your fine technique, to start playing with the perspective of a beginner or a knowledge-hungry student - not easy!

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A band with Joey Satriani, Steve Vai, Mark King and Simon Phillips would certainly be a wet dream for people who are interested in skilled musicians - but will they swing, and have they ever done that?

It's only to put on When The Whip Comes Down from Hampton 1981 to understand what Darryl never will be able to do.

Such a true statement - nothing has to be said again about this...

I agree. Just a bit more: "When the Whip Comes Down" (Live version) – 1978 Tour. 7th track of Sucking in the seventies. (I write it again: Darryl is technically better (light years away) than any stones member. But Wyman (I do not know why, I do not know how) adds the pixie dust, so to speak. If Darryl is only diplomatic.....gosh...he should be bored to tears....

i really don't care who is the bass player !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have any doubt that the bass on Doom and Gloom is played by Darryl Jones.

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Not sure who's playing except it sure isn't Bill Wyman.

Darryl is doing exactly what Keith and Mick want him to do. I wouldn't attack his style or chops with the Stones, he is certainly capable of playing more like Wyman but he is a sympathetic player and plays what works to make the others happy, imho. He comes from the Chuck Leavell school of Stonesmanship. peace

So Chuck is the Doom and Darryl is the Gloom?

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Naturalust
Not sure who's playing except it sure isn't Bill Wyman.

Darryl is doing exactly what Keith and Mick want him to do. I wouldn't attack his style or chops with the Stones, he is certainly capable of playing more like Wyman but he is a sympathetic player and plays what works to make the others happy, imho. He comes from the Chuck Leavell school of Stonesmanship. peace

So Chuck is the Doom and Darryl is the Gloom?

Thats a stretch , more like Jagger is the Doom and Virgin is the Gloom. peace

Is "The Complete Works of The Rolling Stones Database" Nico's site?

The other musicians in addition to the core four are Darryl and Chuck.



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And Keith is the 'Shroom.

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Nope - Jones is!

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A band with Joey Satriani, Steve Vai, Mark King and Simon Phillips would certainly be a wet dream for people who are interested in skilled musicians - but will they swing, and have they ever done that?

It's only to put on When The Whip Comes Down from Hampton 1981 to understand what Darryl never will be able to do.

Get your musical intuition straight. I have seen Mark King several times, he swings and plays like hell, he also has a great rock sound and groove. Making it funky/slapping is just his trademark, Level 42. Listen to his amazing down to earth sound - between the lines - and you will understand that Bill will never be able to do that. The Stones could use MK. The same goes for Darryl and Vai or Satriani btw. These guys are skilled and talented enough to copy and swing like Bill or Ron etc if they were asked to. Blame Charlie, not Darryl.

Bill could take what was sometimes a guitar shambles on stage and envelop it in a warm, rubbery rhythm. In the studio he added emotional elements to songs with just the right well placed note. Daryll not so much. I don't know why.

Wow, a lot of hate on this thread!

I still like the bass line on D&G... Not the finest of all times (let's be real, this is 2012's Stones we're talking about), but still pretty good.

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Bill could take what was sometimes a guitar shambles on stage and envelop it in a warm, rubbery rhythm. In the studio he added emotional elements to songs with just the right well placed note. Daryll not so much. I don't know why.

Bill loves Willie Dixon.

It always showed.

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