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Munichhilton
Is this some sort of High hopes for the next song?
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MrMonte
I do not believe that is Charlie. Not a matter of mixing.
It's not all Charlie.
But Charlie is there.
Underneath.
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superrevvy
the Stones itunes version is WAY WAY better than the Taylor Swift-ish video version
and that's coming from a these-days pretty hardcore pop radio fan
and also somebody who very much likes the bulk of Stones re-mixes over the last
twenty years
this re-mix is stupid, adding absolutely nothing in the way of pop radio
appeal, or disco dance appeal, and subtracting nearly everything that's
good about the Stones.
I disagree, the remix is better with the drum dynamics... the "what's it all about" bits.
Charlie just ploughs on in the original.
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vudicus
Was Charlie not available that week?
Are we not able to record one complete take of a song these days?
I'm running out of reasons to tell myself these guys shouldn't hang it up.
I never wanted to be one of those people. These guys are my heroes.
Please don't try and convince me this recording technique is an artistic one.
It's really not.
Quite right. My first reaction was "what's with the mixing here? Then it was "that is NOT Charlie Watts", then it was "I guess Keith is only doing his typical open-g 1-4 two-string variation riffy thing that he's done 1,000,000 times already... and nothing else., then it was "sounds like they've got an army of backup people spliced in there, not properly, but in a smoke-and mirrors version", then it was "Mick... those lyrics... really??? You've done better in recent years, why go back to sterile, meaningless, jot random phrases that rhyme together Bigger Bang lyrical style".
I ran out of reasons to consider this band a band at all a couple of years ago when Keith put out "Life". This disposable song which they could have written in a hour is what we get after seven years - the longest we've had to wait for %100 new material? I'm gonna throw on the Exile outakes and pretend I didn't hear this trainwreck.Quote
DiscoVolante
So it took them 7 years to release Rough Justice Pt.2?
The song ain't bad but I've heard it before.
Yup, I think Mick is using 3, maybe 4 notes in total the whole way through, 3rd from the rootnote, just like Rough Justice, with compltely forgettable lyrics, like A Bigger Bang. I actually had a wee glimmer of hope this time, since it was 7 years. Nope, more useless ABB snorefest.Quote
KRiffhard
I'm really happy to hear a new Stones tune...but it seems a Mick's solo song and a 'Goddes in the doorway' outtake
Worse, at least with Mick's stuff you get variation and an attempt for freshness. I found Godess to be more artistically genuine than the knee-jerk Bigger Bang. This sounds like a re-patched outtake from those weak sessions (second only to Dirty Work for sheer lame-ness).Quote
Redhotcarpet
Yeah well ok time to quit then. This is pure crap. Sorry but it is. Maybe they have more new songs, I hope so because this is just pointless. Sounds like some early 90s local retro wanna-be band with a catchy but empty vowel refrain. Doom and Gloom?
It doesn't even sound like they're trying, hell, it doesn't even seem like any of them were involved AT ALL in this track. I bet that this is material from 2005 thown into a "track" with other people filling in the blanks. Keith's "contribution" sounds mixed in from another song, it BARELY fits into what Mick "or whoever" is playing. PS, again, that's not #$%&ing Charlie.Quote
stonesnow
Well, gave it 3 listens, enough to know that I never want to hear it again.... But everyone here, except 5% of us dissenters, seem to to have their heads in the clouds about it like it's the greatest thing they've ever or could've done.Best since 1969? It's 1972 again? If you like overproduced Jagger solo filler-type Fauxlling Stones, I suppose it can be whatever year you wish for.... but let's see what people think next year, when the sudden euphoric high over new product and activity has subsided...
Yes, you have a point for sure. The high of the excitement of a new track. Thing is, a lot of poeple here are past their age of musical adventure don't listen to much stuff released since 1990 or so (unless released by an aged artists who peaked in the 60s or 70s). Every month there's AMAZING music released by actual ARTISTS which goes ignored by these types (not that they matter to current artists); then, The DEMIGODS OF ALL MUSIC release this... songs, and they're perfectly happy with it. That's fine, I almost envy the naiveity of a 'fanboy'and/or their lack of muscial sense to realize that this new song very much sucks.Quote
otonneau
Bah. Two listens, that will do. Totally uninteresting. Indeed they could pay any session musicians to record a song "in the style of" and it would result in that. Empty shell.
The fact that they seems to have cobbled this mess together for what SHOULD be a simple, damn 4/4 song speaks volumes enough. No tour announcement? Gee, wonder why. The Rolling Stones are finished.Quote
gotdablouse
So they picked this over Keith's "One More Shot" to the single...that can't be a very good sign for that other song !
No, it can't. And just think about this... seven years. SEVEN YEARS and this is what we get. I'm fighting back, and lost, the urge to say "told ya".Quote
Koen
Keith sounds ready for a tour!
He sure was when he recorded his parts. Bigger Bang was a long tour, after all.Quote
DandelionPowderman
Sometimes it's good just enjoying some new classic rock'n'roll.
This is one of those times
We don't need to be overwhelmed or mesmerized by the Stones - good music cuts it for me.
There's a TON of "good" music out there. I'm glad it works for you. As for me, I choose to listen to "great" or "excellent" music. Only so many hours in a day, why settle for mediocre? It seems that 95% of you do. That's fine, not for me though.Quote
ROPENIIf this is the best they could come up with after 7 years,there is not much hope,just an ok song,the type that Mick can come up with his eyes closed,very average and it will be forgetten in a couple of days,but for those here that are goin gaga over it,great for you..
I don't even think there's hope for a live performance after hearing this.Quote
Virtual_Nobody
OK guys
Listened to this song for 10+ times
It still does not give me goosebumps, like Brown Sugar, Honky Tonk Women gave me when I first heard them.
The spark is not there anymore.
I will pass on this and the Doom & Gloom tour
The good thing is, there's plenty of GOOD music still being produced, out of this apparenly muscially isolated bubble of fanboys who think this is worth a damn thing.Quote
ohotos
Not a masterpiece but D&G is so much better than most of the "Gaga" stuff being played on the radio nowadays!
I'm sorry that apparently where you live you have only one radio station that plays one artist, and that you've chosen it to be your only input of new music.Quote
nankered
lol at all the people hating on this track
your loss
it fooking rocks
it's as simple as that
here is a fact
it's almost 2013
these guys are in their 70's
you should be thankful and "HAPPY" that they are doing anything at all
you will never get a recreation of the golden years 67-73-it;s just not gonna happen.
so either enjoy what you've got or continue to be a mope!
... or stick true to your gut, ignore this crap song, and listen to BETTER music released from ARTISTS instead oc McRock'n'roll.
I should be thankful and happy for this? Please don't take this personally, but it's lucky for the Stones, easy-to-please fanboys like you exi$t.Quote
rbarnes00
I like it, but it's almost as if I like anything they release nowadays!
Yeah, my niece is like that with Disney Princesses. Branding is a powerful thing. Guess for you the Stones' PR folks are doing their job.Quote
Long John Stoner
He's not singing here, he's yelling. It sounds like he's trying to yell away the years. It doesn't work.
He's not 'singing' because this is not a 'song'. There's no hooks, no melody. It's weak songwriting by someone who sounds like they were wishing not to even bother with it, were in not for a hopeful ca$h-in.Quote
punkfloyd
THIS IS GOOD.
NO IT'S NOT.
I've listened to both versions, and there's questionable mixing and production. The pop version does not sound like a band at all, the itunes version is even less interesting. But no studio trickery can hide the fact that it's a very poorly written "song" (if you want to call it that).Quote
71Tele
Um, you are missing the ingredient that made the wobble-less songs you mentioned palatable (and wonderful): Quality songwriting.
Spot on.
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melillo
nice tune but iam not going to do the overeacting its the BESTEST-GREATESTES MOST WONDERFULLEST SONG EVER, simply because its not
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MrMonte
I do not believe that is Charlie. Not a matter of mixing.
It's not all Charlie.
But Charlie is there.
Underneath.
Oh, "underneath"! THAT'S where Charlie is! Thanks for telling us. Pardon me if I prefer to hear his actual playing. You know, I heard he used to be the Rolling Stones' drummer.
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different;
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different;
Just want to be sure you realize the song only just came out today. Sounds as though you have a fairly fleeting attention span. ADD?
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different; the sound to me,is reminiscent of the ABB album.. I know I am not one of the appointed experts on the subject here,if I want it as part of my collection, I'll record it off "you tube" into Adobe Audition.Way too much hype for one song which after played several times will fade into obscurity.
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different; the sound to me,is reminiscent of the ABB album.. I know I am not one of the appointed experts on the subject here,if I want it as part of my collection, I'll record it off "you tube" into Adobe Audition.Way too much hype for one song which after played several times will fade into obscurity.
No one is an expert here, our opinoins are our own. Some may share them, others may not. But don't let some people's arrogance or post-policing make you feel that your own opinions aren't JUST as valid.
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different;
Just want to be sure you realize the song only just came out today. Sounds as though you have a fairly fleeting attention span. ADD?
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MrMonte
I do not believe that is Charlie. Not a matter of mixing.
It's not all Charlie.
But Charlie is there.
Underneath.
Oh, "underneath"! THAT'S where Charlie is! Thanks for telling us. Pardon me if I prefer to hear his actual playing. You know, I heard he used to be the Rolling Stones' drummer.
Just saying.
He's there though.
Did you know Charlie is not on some RS records at all?
Hell, Kenny Jones and Jimmy Miller played on a couple of popular numbers.
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different; the sound to me,is reminiscent of the ABB album.. I know I am not one of the appointed experts on the subject here,if I want it as part of my collection, I'll record it off "you tube" into Adobe Audition.Way too much hype for one song which after played several times will fade into obscurity.
No one is an expert here, our opinoins are our own. Some may share them, others may not. But don't let some people's arrogance or post-policing make you feel that your own opinions aren't JUST as valid.
I don't think anyone asked your opinion james
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different; the sound to me,is reminiscent of the ABB album.. I know I am not one of the appointed experts on the subject here,if I want it as part of my collection, I'll record it off "you tube" into Adobe Audition.Way too much hype for one song which after played several times will fade into obscurity.
No one is an expert here, our opinoins are our own. Some may share them, others may not. But don't let some people's arrogance or post-policing make you feel that your own opinions aren't JUST as valid.
I don't think anyone asked your opinion james
^ steve, that's exacly what I mean. Don't let people tell you how to post here.
(Thank you for the quick example of such arrogance, munich.)
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MrMonte
I do not believe that is Charlie. Not a matter of mixing.
It's not all Charlie.
But Charlie is there.
Underneath.
Oh, "underneath"! THAT'S where Charlie is! Thanks for telling us. Pardon me if I prefer to hear his actual playing. You know, I heard he used to be the Rolling Stones' drummer.
Just saying.
He's there though.
Did you know Charlie is not on some RS records at all?
Hell, Kenny Jones and Jimmy Miller played on a couple of popular numbers.
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steverogan
The song initially caught my attention but soon sounded like nothing fresh or different; the sound to me,is reminiscent of the ABB album.. I know I am not one of the appointed experts on the subject here,if I want it as part of my collection, I'll record it off "you tube" into Adobe Audition.Way too much hype for one song which after played several times will fade into obscurity.
No one is an expert here, our opinoins are our own. Some may share them, others may not. But don't let some people's arrogance or post-policing make you feel that your own opinions aren't JUST as valid.
I don't think anyone asked your opinion james
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MrMonte
I do not believe that is Charlie. Not a matter of mixing.
It's not all Charlie.
But Charlie is there.
Underneath.
Oh, "underneath"! THAT'S where Charlie is! Thanks for telling us. Pardon me if I prefer to hear his actual playing. You know, I heard he used to be the Rolling Stones' drummer.
Just saying.
He's there though.
Did you know Charlie is not on some RS records at all?
Hell, Kenny Jones and Jimmy Miller played on a couple of popular numbers.
Bill Wyman as well was not on bass on a number of tracks during his tenure. Keith as well made himself absent a few times such as Saint Of Me in later years and Shine A Light in earlier times, even Brian missed a studio recording or two in the early days. But if Mick is not in there somewhere, then it will get to sound like something very different entirely.
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MrMonte
I do not believe that is Charlie. Not a matter of mixing.
It's not all Charlie.
But Charlie is there.
Underneath.
Oh, "underneath"! THAT'S where Charlie is! Thanks for telling us. Pardon me if I prefer to hear his actual playing. You know, I heard he used to be the Rolling Stones' drummer.
A drum machine AND Charlie.
Just saying.
He's there though.
Did you know Charlie is not on some RS records at all?
Hell, Kenny Jones and Jimmy Miller played on a couple of popular numbers.
yes, I know. Happy to have them play with Jimmy Miller instead of a drum machine, except I hear he's not available.
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GravityBoy
Did you know Charlie is not on some RS records at all?
Hell, Kenny Jones and Jimmy Miller played on a couple of popular numbers.
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MrMonte
I do not believe that is Charlie. Not a matter of mixing.
It's not all Charlie.
But Charlie is there.
Underneath.
Oh, "underneath"! THAT'S where Charlie is! Thanks for telling us. Pardon me if I prefer to hear his actual playing. You know, I heard he used to be the Rolling Stones' drummer.
Just saying.
He's there though.
Did you know Charlie is not on some RS records at all?
Hell, Kenny Jones and Jimmy Miller played on a couple of popular numbers.
Bill Wyman as well was not on bass on a number of tracks during his tenure. Keith as well made himself absent a few times such as Saint Of Me in later years and Shine A Light in earlier times, even Brian missed a studio recording or two in the early days. But if Mick is not in there somewhere, then it will get to sound like something very different entirely.
So by your logic, as long as Mick so much as farts along to a drum machine it is still the Rolling Stones, as long as he chooses to call it that.
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This band has given us a lifetime of music.