NO LOVE

9/19/2012

Brian Wilson and Al Jardine both say they were "shocked" by Mike Love's announcement on Monday that Love's pre-50th-Anniversary-Tour lineup of The Beach Boys -- which includes Bruce Johnston, but not Wilson, Jardine and David Marks -- would resume doing shows following the band's London dates later this month. Jardine told us at last night's opening of the Good Vibrations: 50 Years of The Beach Boys exhibit at L.A.'s Grammy Museum that he'd just spoken to Love a few minutes earlier: "I said I really do feel you need to rethink it, because there's so many opportunities left for us, and I'd really appreciate talking to you about it -- and he was agreeable to that."

You mind sharing a source for this? Those exact quotes haven't appeared anywhere on the BB board I"m on...

Found it--thanks!

We always knew it was all coming to an end--but we didn't want to be reminded of it. Unfortunately, Mike saw this as a very temporary reunion not a full time one. The tour was a complete success (in every sense of the word) but the scale and costs of it is several times higher than the leaner tours Mike and Bruce go out on every year. They travel lightly with no stage or equipment and with less crew. Mike seems to be ready to ditch the huge scope of this tour and go back to his more smaller scale that he's more used to be in charge of.

Shame because having them all on stage together proved that it was the only way to continue on this band's legacy (whatever is left, of course.) Let's hope they get together in the future for another string of shows. We were lucky to get what we did though. Everyone had a great time and the fans were in heaven. I know I was.

Hardly surprising, especially when you consider that Mike Love has developed a working and likely personal relationship with members of the pre-reunion lineup over years and years, and he wouldn't want to leave them hanging and out of work, and since, of course, that the new album--as good as it was--won't change the overall set list of a BB concert any more than a new Stones album would.

The question is, Will anyone who saw the reunited Beach Boys still pay to see a version of the Beach Boys in which Mike Love is the only original member? I guess they can always get bookings to play at county fairs, in between the poultry judging and the tractor pull.



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... I guess they can always get bookings to play at county fairs, in between the poultry judging and the tractor pull.

Exactly as they have been doing for the last 40 years.

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The question is, Will anyone who saw the reunited Beach Boys still pay to see a version of the Beach Boys in which Mike Love is the only original member? I guess they can always get bookings to play at county fairs, in between the poultry judging and the tractor pull.

Well I've seen several of the Mike/Bruce shows before the reunion and of course seen many of the reunion shows this past few months. I'll continue to see the Mike/Bruce shows. They have John Cowsill on drums and he adds so much to the music. Regardless of who's in the band...it's always good to hear your favorite songs played live--especially by the guy who orginally sung them.

"Mixed Emotions" about all of this.

Really like the idea of them all together, but understand that Mike and Brian (and Al) have been in charge of their own thing for so long that it's hard to cede any power (remind ya of Mick and Keith?).

Anyway, I still think Mike is a douche and Brian is an extremely gifted nut case. In any instance, I love the music.

Douche isn't a strong enough word.

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... I guess they can always get bookings to play at county fairs, in between the poultry judging and the tractor pull.

Exactly as they have been doing for the last 40 years.

Not 40 years...maybe 15. Things changed a lot after Carl Wilson passed away in early 1998, then Al left the band shortly after.

Mike Love UGH!

Can you really be shocked????? its mike love??? cares more about the dollar then friendships and harmony's

what is pathetic is his hypocrisy - need we forget this????

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"i know mick jagger wont be here tonight, he's gotta stay in england, but i'd like to see us at the collusium and him at wembley stadium, cause he's always been chicken-sh it, to get on stage with the beach boys"-mike love

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... I guess they can always get bookings to play at county fairs, in between the poultry judging and the tractor pull.

Exactly as they have been doing for the last 40 years.

More like 15-20 years.

Does Mike use the name Beach Boys with the other line up as well?

Yes he does. He own the rights on the Beach Boys trademark.

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Hope they can stick together before the Royal Albert Hall show I'm going to next Thursday.

I figured after this tour they should just stop touring. A nice bookend to their career, that looks like it'll probably end on a sour note.

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Can you really be shocked????? its mike love??? cares more about the dollar then friendships and harmony's

If he cared about the dollar he'd keep touring with Brian and Al. He could charge more and sell more tickets.



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Mike Love is a horrendous little shit. I really love the Beach Boys music, but I had reservations about seeing them on this tour. I've seen many fantastic Brian Wilson shows since 2004, with performances and moments that have left me speechless and / or close to tears. Amazing stuff. I hope Wilson continues to do his thing with his own, incredible touring band.

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Will Beach Boys reunion end on a sour note?

The Beach Boys perform at the Grammy Museum amid questions about the future of their latter-day reunion. (Becky Sapp / Grammy Museum )
Randy Newman is 'Dreaming' about the Obama-Romney race

By Randy Lewis
September 19, 2012, 11:36 a.m.


Even on a day designed to celebrate 50 years of the signature harmonies of the Beach Boys, the notoriously fractious group couldn’t avoid striking yet another discordant note amid all the good vibrations.

A day before band members gathered at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles to take in various accolades, singer and lyricist Mike Love caught his fellow band members by surprise in announcing his decision to resume touring with his latter-day incarnation of the Beach Boys -- minus creative leader Brian Wilson or original members Al Jardine and David Marks.

The move by Love, who legally controls the Beach Boys name and who has sued Wilson and Jardine over various issues throughout the years, raises major questions about any future for the reunited edition of the quintessential California band. It's played more than 70 performances this year on four continents and released a warmly received new studio album for the first time in more than two decades.

“The 50th anniversary tour was designed to go for a year and then end,” Love said at the Grammy Museum just after he, Wilson, Jardine, Marks and Johnston were presented with triple-platinum awards signifying more than 3 million copies sold of their 2003 hits compilation, “Sounds of Summer -- The Very Best of the Beach Boys.

The framed awards were presented by EMI/Capitol Records executives Bill Gagnon and Jane Ventom in front of the Grammy Museum’s new Beach Boys exhibit, “Good Vibrations -- 50 Years of the Beach Boys,” which will run for the next year. Record label executives would love to keep the reformed band going as the reunion album, “That’s Why God Made the Radio,” gave the Beach Boys the highest chart debut in its history when it entered at No. 3 in June with first-week sales of 61,000 copies.

Love indicated that he’s being protective of the Beach Boys’ legacy.

“You’ve got to be careful not to get overexposed,” Love said. “There are promoters who are interested [in more shows by the reunited lineup], but they’ve said, ‘Give it a rest for a year.’ The Eagles found out the hard way when they went out for a second year and wound up selling tickets for $5.”

That left other band members confused and disappointed.

“Brian is very bummed,” Wilson’s manager, Jean Sievers, said Tuesday.

Wilson himself said this year’s tour, which includes two final performances later this week in London, has been “very tiring,” but he added, “I’m really looking forward to doing another album.”

Love said that he sees recording and touring as separate matters, and that his decision to return to touring without Wilson, who is his cousin, or Jardine and Marks, who started the Beach Boys when they were teenagers growing up in Hawthorne, wouldn’t preclude more recording together. “I’d be interested [in making another album] if I could write some songs with Brian,” Love said.

Love’s announcement generated dozens of mostly critical responses on Rolling Stone’s website when the news appeared Monday.

The shift in the touring lineup also has caused some confusion outside the group itself. Texas club Nutty Jerry's had booked a Beach Boys show, which has since been canceled. Love's manager Jay Jones said it was Love's decision to halt the show because it was being inaccurately promoted as part of the reunion tour with the original members.

Nevertheless, group members smiled for photos during the platinum award presentation and genially answered questions from the museum's executive director, Robert Santelli, before an enthusiastic crowd of about 200 people, including a few who flew in from Florida, New Jersey and Kentucky.

Following a Q&A session, a stripped-down version of the touring group using acoustic instruments performed five songs. The set showcased the distinctive, multilayered harmonies that propelled hits such as “California Girls,” “Surfer Girl,” “Help Me Rhonda” and “I Get Around” up the charts in the 1960s.

Wilson has his own group, the Brian Wilson Band, which has been accompanying him on tour and in the studio since 1999, and with which he has made several new solo albums. Love and Johnston have continued touring as the Beach Boys with their own support musicians, two of whom -- guitarist-singer Scott Totten and drummer John Cowsill -- were part of the 50th anniversary tour, along with several members of Wilson’s band.

The Grammy Museum exhibit includes various pieces of musical and personal memorabilia from over a half century of the band’s existence, including the surfboard once owned by drummer Dennis Wilson, who drowned in 1983. (The third Wilson sibling, Carl, died in 1998 of cancer.) The surfboard was pictured on the cover of two Beach Boys albums.

The exhibit also includes a high school theme paper Brian Wilson wrote outlining “My Philosophy,” in which he stated that he hoped to make his mark in the world through music. “The satisfaction of ‘a place in the world’ seems well worth a sincere effort to me,” the 17-year-old future architect of the Beach Boys sound wrote.

Copyright © 2012, Los Angeles Times

Nothing like a nice bit of controvery to further increase press interest.

Fine with me. As mentioned above, Brian's shows have been superb. He could ask Al & David to join him in creating new music and tours, we'll see who draws more interest and critical acclaim! Brian is writing great music and is singing better than he has is decades.

That said, I really did enjoy this "last blast" from the Beach Boys. Sure, it would be great to hear another album, but that just seems unlikely now that ML has pulled this stunt. It appears that the others were blindsided by this, and the line about "if I could write songs with Brian" sounds like he is trying to call the shots. Brian's version of what ever that album was going to be will do just fine!

Mike doesn't own the trademark. It's owned by Brother Records. I think that Al, Carl's estate, Brian, Mike, and maybe Denny's estate own Brother (or some affiliated entity). Mike has a license agreement to use the Beach Boys name for his shows. I'm not sure how long the license lasts.

There was litigation several years ago between Mike and Al because Al wanted to use a variation of the Beach Boys name for his own shows after Carl's death.

Thee guys are worst than the Monkees. Times running out.

Saw them this summer, really good show, plenty of warhorses, so I can, in one way understand the tourists
going to Stones shows.

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Thee guys are worst than the Monkees. Times running out.

Nope, they are not "worst."

I've seen both the Beach Boys and the Monkees in the last year and each show was better (deep cuts, b-sides, length of show, etc.) than the last couple of times I saw the Stones in 2006. No one was on auto-pilot.

I regret they do not show up in Paris, France.