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OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 15, 2012 04:08

Maybe one of the Beatles experts here can help me out with this. At the very end of TNK, there's a few seconds of barely audible piano, played, I believe, by George Martin. My question is this: Is he playing an actual, recognizable song? Or is he just noodling around? If it's a song, what song is it?






Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-09-15 12:12 by tatters.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: September 15, 2012 04:12

Yup that is George Martin. It isn't part of another song, or another song, just an outro to the TNK.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 15, 2012 04:17

I could swear I hear a couple seconds of Anthony Newley's "Once In A Lifetime."



Just once in a lifetime
A man knows a moment
One wonderful moment
When fate takes his hand
And this is my moment
My once in a lifetime
When I can explore a new and exciting land

For once in my lifetime
I feel like a giant
I soar like an eagle
As though I had wings

For this is my moment
My destiny calls me
And though it may be just once in my lifetime
I'm gonna do great things



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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: September 15, 2012 04:59

WOw! I am not sure I hear it. And man what a strange video. I was waiting for him to kiss Sammy.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 15, 2012 05:06

It's possible, though, isn't it? Stop The World I Want To Get Off opened in 1961, so Martin certainly would have been familiar with it.



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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: BJPortugal ()
Date: September 15, 2012 05:36

Nothing to say about the question of the thread, but this song is amazing. The effect of Lennon's voice is perfect.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: September 15, 2012 05:43

And if you listen to the version on Anthology you find it's totally different, yet equally fascinating.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Blueranger ()
Date: September 15, 2012 06:36

Although a Lennon song, Much of it is the work of McCartney.

It was his idea with the tape loops, Ringo's drumming and the backwards guitar solo, also played by him.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: cookwazzahoe ()
Date: September 15, 2012 06:38

I'd rather listen to Tomorrow Never Knows 100 times in a row than listen to another cut from Sgt. Peppers thats been played to death on Classic Rock stations

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: September 15, 2012 07:02

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Blueranger
Although a Lennon song, Much of it is the work of McCartney.

It was his idea with the tape loops, Ringo's drumming and the backwards guitar solo, also played by him.

hmm not sure Ringo's drumming could be done by McCartney...that just doesn't make sense.
Yes, McCartney did do a lot of the tape loops though. He was experimenting with tape loops and encouraged the others to make their own, which they did. But yeah, it is Ringo drumming with his cymbal work being done in a backwards loop.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: September 15, 2012 10:30

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BJPortugal
Nothing to say about the question of the thread, but this song is amazing. The effect of Lennon's voice is perfect.

He asked George Martin if he could sound like Buddah singing from the top of a mountain.

They did something to make him happy I guess.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Blueranger ()
Date: September 15, 2012 10:37

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whitem8
Quote
Blueranger
Although a Lennon song, Much of it is the work of McCartney.

It was his idea with the tape loops, Ringo's drumming and the backwards guitar solo, also played by him.

hmm not sure Ringo's drumming could be done by McCartney...that just doesn't make sense.
Yes, McCartney did do a lot of the tape loops though. He was experimenting with tape loops and encouraged the others to make their own, which they did. But yeah, it is Ringo drumming with his cymbal work being done in a backwards loop.

It was not McCartney performing on drums but the unconventional idea to drum that way, was his.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: stonesnow ()
Date: September 15, 2012 10:52

it is interesting that none of the McCartney home electronic tapes from that era such as in TNK have ever been available on bootleg.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Blueranger ()
Date: September 15, 2012 11:58

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stonesnow
it is interesting that none of the McCartney home electronic tapes from that era such as in TNK have ever been available on bootleg.

His is very concerned about the Beatles legacy. In fact only a few of his private demos has made the bootlegs, and thats only because Lennon had them copied...

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: September 15, 2012 12:11

OK - here's a treat for y'all. The multitrack for TNK but spliced together with Within You Without You. Have a psychedelic day. You'll need to have or download Audacity to play them.

[www.mediafire.com]

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 15, 2012 12:28

Interestingly, Anna Quayle, the actress who starred opposite Anthony Newley in STWIWTGO's original London stage production, is also the actress who played the brief, but noteworthy, "You don't look like him at all" scene with John Lennon in A Hard Day's Night.






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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: NoCode0680 ()
Date: September 15, 2012 17:09

Quote
Silver Dagger
OK - here's a treat for y'all. The multitrack for TNK but spliced together with Within You Without You. Have a psychedelic day. You'll need to have or download Audacity to play them.

[www.mediafire.com]

Isn't that the same track that appears on "Love" and "Beatles Rock Band"?

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: September 15, 2012 18:31

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Blueranger
Quote
stonesnow
it is interesting that none of the McCartney home electronic tapes from that era such as in TNK have ever been available on bootleg.

His is very concerned about the Beatles legacy. In fact only a few of his private demos has made the bootlegs, and thats only because Lennon had them copied...

I know of one - We Can Work It Out but he taped over it at about the 20 second mark. Heard on the Lost Lennon Tapes.

Ringo came up with the title Tomorrow Never Knows, but this title does not appear in the lyrics. And the song has only 1 chord - C.

Paul originally experimented with these tapes but all the Beatles went home and made tapes and came back with them.


From Wikipedia:

Five tape loops are audible in finished version of the song. Isolating the loops reveals that they contained:

A "laughing" voice, played at double-speed (the "seagull" sound)
An orchestral chord of B flat major (from a Sibelius symphony) (0:19)
A fast electric guitar phrase in C major, reversed and played at double-speed (0:22)
Another guitar phrase with heavy tape echo, with a B flat chord provided either by guitar, organ or possibly a Mellotron Mk II (0:38)
A sitar-like descending scalar phrase played on an electric guitar, reversed and played at double-speed (0:56)



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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 15, 2012 19:00

Quote
NoCode0680
Quote
Silver Dagger
OK - here's a treat for y'all. The multitrack for TNK but spliced together with Within You Without You. Have a psychedelic day. You'll need to have or download Audacity to play them.

[www.mediafire.com]

Isn't that the same track that appears on "Love" and "Beatles Rock Band"?

Absolutely brilliant mash-up. I remember reading a review of the Love album in New Yorker Magazine that said something to the effect that it was the one track on the album that actually sounds like something the Beatles themselves might have done. In other words, something that even Lennon and Harrison would have approved of.






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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Jah Paul ()
Date: September 15, 2012 19:21

The mash-up before its time (released in 1967)...




Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: September 15, 2012 19:38

Phil Collins was a paid teenage extra at the end of 'A Hard Day's Night'.
17 years later...





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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: September 15, 2012 19:56

Just as affecting as the known version:

Tomorrow Never Knows - Anthology Version

[www.youtube.com]

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: BJPortugal ()
Date: September 15, 2012 20:02

Quote
24FPS
Just as affecting as the known version:

Tomorrow Never Knows - Anthology Version

[www.youtube.com]

Indeed thumbs up

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 15, 2012 20:14

What's so incredible, is that TNK was the FIRST SONG that the Beatles recorded for the Revolver album! The date was April 6, 1966. It seems to have come out of nowhere. There was nothing else even remotely similar that they could have previously heard and been influenced by. The only recording they could have heard that was anywhere near that progressive was the Byrds "Eight Miles High", which had been released as a single a few weeks earlier, on March 14, 1966.



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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: September 15, 2012 20:22

Quote
jamesfdouglas
Phil Collins was a paid teenage extra at the end of 'A Hard Day's Night'.
17 years later...



Face Value was released just two months after Lennon was murdered. Not sure whether this had already been recorded or if Phil rushed into the studio to add this track as a last-minute tribute. Makes me wonder what it would be like if John were alive and touring today, maybe performing this song as an encore. Just imagine the setlist he could have put together if he'd wanted to.

Btw, at the very end of Phil's version, you can just barely hear him singing "Over The Rainbow".



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Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: September 15, 2012 22:26

Quote
NoCode0680
Quote
Silver Dagger
OK - here's a treat for y'all. The multitrack for TNK but spliced together with Within You Without You. Have a psychedelic day. You'll need to have or download Audacity to play them.

[www.mediafire.com]

Isn't that the same track that appears on "Love" and "Beatles Rock Band"?

That's the one but by downlaoding audacity you can remix the track anyway that you want. You can be George Martin for the day!

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Long John Stoner ()
Date: September 15, 2012 22:29

Quote
Silver Dagger
Quote
NoCode0680
Quote
Silver Dagger
OK - here's a treat for y'all. The multitrack for TNK but spliced together with Within You Without You. Have a psychedelic day. You'll need to have or download Audacity to play them.

[www.mediafire.com]

Isn't that the same track that appears on "Love" and "Beatles Rock Band"?

That's the one but by downlaoding audacity you can remix the track anyway that you want. You can be George Martin for the day!

No kidding, I got re-directed to a porn site when I went to that link.

Re: OT: "Tomorrow Never Knows" Question
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: September 15, 2012 22:33

Quote
Long John Stoner
Quote
Silver Dagger
Quote
NoCode0680
Quote
Silver Dagger
OK - here's a treat for y'all. The multitrack for TNK but spliced together with Within You Without You. Have a psychedelic day. You'll need to have or download Audacity to play them.

[www.mediafire.com]

Isn't that the same track that appears on "Love" and "Beatles Rock Band"?

That's the one but by downlaoding audacity you can remix the track anyway that you want. You can be George Martin for the day!

No kidding, I got re-directed to a porn site when I went to that link.

Lucky you! I just tried it again and it's still there.



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