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jamesfdouglas
I won't bother with Voodoo Lounge Part 7, or Licks part two, or whatever this SAME SHOW is that we've been getting since '94.
There's nothing fresh at all about any of this, it feels like a hollow shell with a complete lack of anything artistic.
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jamesfdouglas
I won't bother with Voodoo Lounge Part 7, or Licks part two, or whatever this SAME SHOW is that we've been getting since '94.
There's nothing fresh at all about any of this, it feels like a hollow shell with a complete lack of anything artistic.
You must not have been at Wembley Arena, 8-29-03.
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jamesfdouglas
I won't bother with Voodoo Lounge Part 7, or Licks part two, or whatever this SAME SHOW is that we've been getting since '94.
There's nothing fresh at all about any of this, it feels like a hollow shell with a complete lack of anything artistic.
You must not have been at Wembley Arena, 8-29-03.
Or any of the 1999 Tour...
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jamesfdouglas
I won't bother with Voodoo Lounge Part 7, or Licks part two, or whatever this SAME SHOW is that we've been getting since '94.
There's nothing fresh at all about any of this, it feels like a hollow shell with a complete lack of anything artistic.
You must not have been at Wembley Arena, 8-29-03.
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deadegad
Sponsored by Bain Capital?
Actually, the National Endowment for the Arts is sponsoring it, so the tour is free for everyone! They're gonna broadcast the whole thing on PBS instead of pay-per-view, and Big Bird is rumored to be the guest on marimba for Paint it Black.
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jamesfdouglas
I won't bother with Voodoo Lounge Part 7, or Licks part two, or whatever this SAME SHOW is that we've been getting since '94.
There's nothing fresh at all about any of this, it feels like a hollow shell with a complete lack of anything artistic.
You must not have been at Wembley Arena, 8-29-03.
Good one Edith Grove
i loved it
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jamesfdouglas
I won't bother with Voodoo Lounge Part 7, or Licks part two, or whatever this SAME SHOW is that we've been getting since '94.
There's nothing fresh at all about any of this, it feels like a hollow shell with a complete lack of anything artistic.
You must not have been at Wembley Arena, 8-29-03.
Good one Edith Grove
i loved it
jeroen
Ok... um, guess I had to be there? Glad that they decided not to do their Vegas show for one night of the tour??
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beepee
So whats supposed to happen at 9am ?
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Lorenz
A well run business is not necessarily the business that can ask the highest prices. It's the one that understands its market ... It's the one that wants to create value ... But hell, I rather earn 8 million instead of 16 million and feel satisfied that I did a great job and provided something of value instead of a rip-off.
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Gazza
if they play to half empty stadiums when they tour for real, its not as if they'll learn from it and make the NEXT tour affordable.
Maximising profits sadly means that it can be more profitable to have a 50% full venue at high prices than completely full at moderate prices. 25.000 x €100 is just more than 50.000 x €40.
This certainly was the philosophy when selling ABB tickets. They did not need to sell out at those prices. (Only at some places where they turned out to have really overestimated their potential they have cancelled a show, possibly with some health related excuse).
Even if this often led to uncomfortably emtpy stadiums and possibly some image damage from it ("Stones can't sell out stadiums anymore", which is just not true), they appearantly didn't mind playing for empty seats. Because financially, it didn't matter.
I'm tired of that BS. If it doesn't matter anymore for them if they play in empty houses while the cash is ok, then they can f... off.
Well, not exactly empty. It's a balance. In my example, they have marketeers found out that they'll always have a 25.000 base that will pay €100 anyhow. People like us and people with money. Any ticket sold extra is a nice plus, but not necessary. That's a more secure situation than actually needing all 50.000 tickets sold to break even.
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Lorenz
A well run business is not necessarily the business that can ask the highest prices. It's the one that understands its market ... It's the one that wants to create value ... But hell, I rather earn 8 million instead of 16 million and feel satisfied that I did a great job and provided something of value instead of a rip-off.
Well, you're young... Idealism wears off, apparently. Pride in a job and the wanting to minimise the risk of image damage are no prominent features with the RS anymore.
I'm not trying to be a marketing expert, but I very much think the current business model is something like I posted in another thread:Quote
Limbostone
Yeah, I saw what you posted and I agree with your observation. Clever and cunning, as you said as well. Just should that make us be fine with all of it?
I don't think idealism just wears off or is reserved for the young(er). It's just that life can make one cynical and prefer profit to moral. Along the way that must've happened to the Stones.