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I find quite a lot of the comments in this thread amusing because (1) those who chose not to show up get criticized for choosing not to show up, (2) those who chose not to show up get criticized for how badly they would have played had they chosen to show up (i.e., The Rolling Stones), and (3) those who did show up get criticized for how they played/performed (except The Who).
I think it's better not to show up for something like this. An artist/performer rarely can be shown in the best light, because an event of this magnitude is too restrictive, too choreographed, and the artist/performer has so little control over how they will go over. Can anyone blame Kate Bush for not showing, when she's only performed live 12 times in her entire career? And ultimately, an event like this hardly has any lasting relevance--the Olympians themselves are only going to be on TV for the next couple of years appearing in schlock commercials hawking crap products for their corporate sponsors. And it does nothing for Ray Davies' legacy one way or the other to be seen miming to Waterloo Sunset one more time. Perhaps a lot of the big names in British rock who said no were just too dignified to appear. The Who said no twice--wish they'd refused a third time. I'll see them live on their upcoming tour, thank you very much.
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Now peopel are arguing that the Stones should do that "for their country", like they have some strange national duty to do that. In some sports event, for god sake. What next: to play for their soldiers when they are fighting in some foreign country? Anyeways, there are always some george michaels dying to do that.
I suppose quite many of artists still see - despite euphoria and hype over the games now - the whole as a kind tricky business, and are not not comfortable with it. And I can totally understand them. Personally I was afraid of that Jagger mmight take the bite, but gladly he did not. I like think it is due to artistic dignity. (I tried to figure Jagger's decision with more detail in the other thread).
Just to make myself clear: I am a big fan of Olympic Games, and I enjoyed great deal in following the events (the actual substance: sports), but I can't see what the hell The Stones or any other major act with some artistic dignity should do anything with it. It's not their cake. Or should we need to have Usain Bolt running some faked 30 meters in middle of a Rolling Stones show?
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Pink Floyd's drummer with a bunch of nobodys
Mike Rutherford a nobody ?
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Pink Floyd's drummer with a bunch of nobodys
Mike Rutherford a nobody ?
Exactly what I thought.
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I find quite a lot of the comments in this thread amusing because (1) those who chose not to show up get criticized for choosing not to show up, (2) those who chose not to show up get criticized for how badly they would have played had they chosen to show up (i.e., The Rolling Stones), and (3) those who did show up get criticized for how they played/performed (except The Who).
I think it's better not to show up for something like this. An artist/performer rarely can be shown in the best light, because an event of this magnitude is too restrictive, too choreographed, and the artist/performer has so little control over how they will go over. Can anyone blame Kate Bush for not showing, when she's only performed live 12 times in her entire career? And ultimately, an event like this hardly has any lasting relevance--the Olympians themselves are only going to be on TV for the next couple of years appearing in schlock commercials hawking crap products for their corporate sponsors. And it does nothing for Ray Davies' legacy one way or the other to be seen miming to Waterloo Sunset one more time. Perhaps a lot of the big names in British rock who said no were just too dignified to appear. The Who said no twice--wish they'd refused a third time. I'll see them live on their upcoming tour, thank you very much.
Very well put, and I agree 100%. To me it looks like the whole Olympic thing in regards to these opening/closing ceremonies has gone out of hand. Some sort of common sense seem to be lost. I remeber wtaching LA 1984 ceremonies, and watching Lionel Richie singing there, and thinking, I hope The Stones will never do anything that corny. Now peopel are arguing that the Stones should do that "for their country", like they have some strange national duty to do that. In some sports event, for god sake. What next: to play for their soldiers when they are fighting in some foreign country? Anyeways, there are always some george michaels dying to do that.
I suppose quite many of artists still see - despite euphoria and hype over the games now - the whole as a kind tricky business, and are not not comfortable with it. And I can totally understand them. Personally I was afraid of that Jagger mmight take the bite, but gladly he did not. I like think it is due to artistic dignity. (I tried to figure Jagger's decision with more detail in the other thread).
Just to make myself clear: I am a big fan of Olympic Games, and I enjoyed great deal in following the events (the actual substance: sports), but I can't see what the hell The Stones or any other major act with some artistic dignity should do anything with it. It's not their cake. Or should we need to have Usain Bolt running some faked 30 meters in middle of a Rolling Stones show?
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
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I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
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Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
The concept? Not hard to grasp...just not well thought out.
The excellent quoting work by Max. That's hard to grasp. Take That.
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definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category
Hey Gazza ... how about that one where Mick's hangin 'round Leicester Square & Nelsons Column ........
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
The concept? Not hard to grasp...just not well thought out.
The excellent quoting work by Max. That's hard to grasp. Take That.
Munich, you're showing an ability to think in only, One Direction.
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
The concept? Not hard to grasp...just not well thought out.
The excellent quoting work by Max. That's hard to grasp. Take That.
Munich, you're showing an ability to think in only, One Direction.
I knew your Beady Eye was lurking
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
The concept? Not hard to grasp...just not well thought out.
The excellent quoting work by Max. That's hard to grasp. Take That.
Munich, you're showing an ability to think in only, One Direction.
I knew your Beady Eye was lurking
oh yeah, who are you?!
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
The concept? Not hard to grasp...just not well thought out.
The excellent quoting work by Max. That's hard to grasp. Take That.
Munich, you're showing an ability to think in only, One Direction.
I knew your Beady Eye was lurking
oh yeah, who are you?!
I'm the 6th spice girl...Drunk Spice.
They never let me perform with them...ever. I hate them for that.
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
The concept? Not hard to grasp...just not well thought out.
The excellent quoting work by Max. That's hard to grasp. Take That.
Munich, you're showing an ability to think in only, One Direction.
I knew your Beady Eye was lurking
oh yeah, who are you?!
I'm the 6th spice girl...Drunk Spice.
They never let me perform with them...ever. I hate them for that.
I heard StonesTod's joining them for a Fall tour, and he'll be known as Old Spice.
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Also, what the hell was the point of the Bowie tribute?
He's not dead and couldn't be bothered to show!
Why not give Robert Plant his own 10 picture moment?
What about Eric Clapton?
That made zero sense to eulogize a living man...Quote
GazzaQuote
Max'sKansasCity
I am still mildly curious... and ask again... I wonder why they gave Bowie such a nice segment, but did not give The Rolling Stones so much as a whisper.
I am only mildly curious at this point, it is not a big deal.
Bowie is and has been every bit as big in the UK as the Stones. He's probably the most important and iconic British act since the 60s.
Watching bits of it again, its sort of dawning on me a bit more that a lot of us are missing the 'context' a bit. Naturally, if you were including great and iconic British acts, the Stones would be in the top tier of music to be represented - but if you're showcasing 'Britishness' in music - maybe less so. The Stones' music isn't really typically British in the way that The Beatles, Bowie, The Who or The Kinks would be.
'Waterloo Sunset' was the absolute perfect choice for an occasion like this. Its probably THE definitive London pop song. The Stones don't really have a song that could be pigeonholed into that category ('Street Fighting Man' maybe - at an absolute push....but its not anywhere near their most iconic song). Neither do Led Zeppelin for that matter.
[www.iorr.org]
Excellent use of the quoting thingy. I need to learn that.
I'm not sure I'm satisfied with the answer though.
If Bowie can't be bothered to be there, just be happy you got Take That to show up...
They belonged there whether you or I like them or not, as theyre a hugely successful act from the 90s onwards. The event was supposed to showcase different eras and genres of musical history, not be merely a 60s/70s 'rock' timewarp - seriously, how hard is this concept to grasp for some people?
The concept? Not hard to grasp...just not well thought out.
The excellent quoting work by Max. That's hard to grasp. Take That.
Munich, you're showing an ability to think in only, One Direction.
I knew your Beady Eye was lurking
oh yeah, who are you?!
I'm the 6th spice girl...Drunk Spice.
They never let me perform with them...ever. I hate them for that.
I heard StonesTod's joining them for a Fall tour, and he'll be known as Old Spice.
Why didn't I think of that. Thats why they don't want me. They have him