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Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: May 16, 2012 22:05

And at least Carla Bruni didn't charge Mick. What a classy tramp... err lady! >grinning smiley<

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: May 16, 2012 22:53

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Max'sKansasCity
...the beauties rushed to assure me that they "never" charged if their new friend was a major rock star...

aint that the way it always works? the freekin people who can afford it the easist... get it free... just like amps and guitars and clothes and cars and...



and yes I understand the marketing value of it... just sayin...

It ain't what it appears to be Max. You want the good stuff you gotta look quite a ways past the group that is givin it away because you play a mean guitar or have notoriety and fame. I learned that a long time ago.

To be quite honest, the dudes who are having this kind of sexual rendezvous are likely missing out on the AMAZING sex that can happen when you are with someone you love and respect and have developed a trusting bond with. Truly.

Funny story... I recently played a resort on the coast here a while back and one of the cocktail waitresses put out a tip jar (tacky, I'm gettin paid no need)) I play music that pulls the heartstrings on a good night and this must have been one of them because there were three! room keys with notes attached...(come to my room and I'll.....). I thought about it for about a minute but decided to blow it off. One of them was smokin hot but how was I to know which room she was in? Women are not subtle these days, they go for what they want too, unabashedly and agressivly, good for them I say! whoo Hoo! peace

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:44

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Father Ted
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ROPENI
found this at Radar online a new book claims Mick has been hiring hookers for sex since the 70's,l don't believe it,l thnk he could have and probably did get any girl he wanted for free. What say you?
[www.radaronline.com]

Why do you find it unbelievable that a wealthy man would pay for sex?
When the person that we are talking about is Mick Jagger,indeed for me is hard to believe that he had to pay for sex,Mick is one of the greatest sex symbols of our time,and girls everywhere would throw themselves at him,so why pay? I mean after all he is not some fat banker,that can't get laid unless he pays for it,but as some have written here,maybe he paid to avoid all the the problems that came with free sex.

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:53

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Naturalust
....three! room keys with notes attached...(come to my room and I'll.....). I thought about it for about a minute but decided to blow it off. One of them was smokin hot but how was I to know which room she was in?

Bob Barker should have been there... sounds like LETS MAKE A DEAL!
3 doors.... 3 keys..... one grand prize.... 2 possible zonks. winking smiley

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: deadegad ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:53

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treaclefingers
I'd just like to point out the obvious, in that any time you take a girl out for dinner, you are paying for sex, which is to say, every male on the board has likely paid for sex (more than once!).

Yes and being what The Stones have charged in ticket prices, RS.com membership fees; et. al. , it could be argued that we paid for Mick's hookers too!

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: May 17, 2012 03:54

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ROPENI
When the person that we are talking about is Mick Jagger,indeed for me is hard to believe that he had to pay for sex,Mick is one of the greatest sex symbols of our time,and girls everywhere would throw themselves at him,so why pay? I mean after all he is not some fat banker,that can't get laid unless he pays for it,but as some have written here,maybe he paid to avoid all the the problems that came with free sex.

Yes, but think about it. If you're a "non-professional" and you slept with a famous rock star or movie star, you're going to want to share the story with others to gain some small measure of fame yourself. You're not going to just keep it to yourself! You may also assume there is now an emotional connection between you and the celebrity and perhaps even start stalking him/her when your phone calls are not returned. And if you're evil or conniving, you may then publicly claim it was forced/non-consensual sex, to win a nice chunk of change (in court or out) or at least in order to gain some additional publicity.

Celebrities have to be extremely careful; they have public images and large fortunes to protect. And no one is more aware of this than Jagger.

Drew

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: May 17, 2012 04:43

In STONE ALONE Bill Wyman said he and Mick were offered some prostitutes by some promoter (if memory serves, this was in Thailand). Bill said he and Mick were both bashful about these prostitutes being laid at their feet. But they did eventually go off with them. But these weren't anything they pursued, or paid for themselves. They were a "gift." So that arguably gives Bill and Mick a "free pass," so to speak, on this one.

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: May 17, 2012 18:55

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drewmaster
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ROPENI
When the person that we are talking about is Mick Jagger,indeed for me is hard to believe that he had to pay for sex,Mick is one of the greatest sex symbols of our time,and girls everywhere would throw themselves at him,so why pay? I mean after all he is not some fat banker,that can't get laid unless he pays for it,but as some have written here,maybe he paid to avoid all the the problems that came with free sex.

Yes, but think about it. If you're a "non-professional" and you slept with a famous rock star or movie star, you're going to want to share the story with others to gain some small measure of fame yourself. You're not going to just keep it to yourself! You may also assume there is now an emotional connection between you and the celebrity and perhaps even start stalking him/her when your phone calls are not returned. And if you're evil or conniving, you may then publicly claim it was forced/non-consensual sex, to win a nice chunk of change (in court or out) or at least in order to gain some additional publicity.

Celebrities have to be extremely careful; they have public images and large fortunes to protect. And no one is more aware of this than Jagger.

Drew

You got it Drew, that's a pretty good explanation if I've ever heard one. It's probably hard enough for Mick to engage all the ladies he has slept with when he just happenes to come face to face with them, at a party, on the street , wherever.

I watched "Being Mick" the other day, loved it. There was a scene when he was at Elton John's Ventican themed party and as he was meandering about with his daughter. People were acknowledging him and engaging him in many different ways; from the newspaper columnist who wanted to know what the brand of his suit jacket was to women he obviously had slept with screaming with giddy delight, wrapping their arms around him and presenting their lips to be kissed (again). He took it all in stride but on ocaision wrapped his arm around one of the ladies and walked away from the camera with her for a priavte chat.

That documentary film certainly gave you a glimmer to what it was like to be so obviously sexually popular with the ladies. It's easy to see why he could seek sex from a professional, if not only to bypass the many aspects of another "my relationship with Mick" chick. "Oohh Mick, I wore this just for you honey..." could get old pretty quickly. peace

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: May 17, 2012 23:43




Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: May 17, 2012 23:48

If he did pay for the occasional hooker, you have to suspect they were VERY high end and he no doubt hired them because he felt the need for a challenge; what fun is it to sleep with women who toss their panties at him, night after night...even for Mick, that must be boring...at least with a hooker you can assume they're in it for the $$ and try to really turn them on..thus, the challenge.

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: May 18, 2012 02:13

I like the way you think mickschix and you are probably spot on here. peace

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: May 18, 2012 11:03

What none of you seems to grasp is that he who pays the piper calls the tune. A buyer of prostitutes' time can specify exactly what he wants in a sexual partner - age, nationality, looks, skills, personality. He can specify his sexual desires in the same way a diner at a restaurant can choose any item on the menu. While there are certain definite requirements of clients, eg, advance payment, discretion, a standard of hygiene and behaviour, the client is under no obligation to offer reciprocal sexual gratification. And has been pointed out, the commercial sexual encounter has pre-defined limits; it does not morph into a personal relationship with concommitent expectations.

The question should be......why WOULDN'T Mick choose to pay high class escorts?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-18 12:54 by Bliss.

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: May 18, 2012 11:34

The woman must know what she is talking about and have some reliable sources or witnesses. Otherwise she can count on getting sued.

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: May 18, 2012 13:48

So ROPENI you're also surprised that Tiger Woods paid [a lot of money] for sex because he was hot
and wealthy and sexy and powerful...?

And sorry to burst anyone's bubble here, but Mick's an old dude now, and 20-somethings [who he'd
probably hire] would not likely be--as someone put it here--throwing any panties his way. He's their
grandfather's age and...well, just not that hot any more--I mean he's probably appealing in some ways
and still's "got it," to some extent, but his age and relative unattractiveness to the women of the level
of beauty he formerly attracted effortlessly may be another reason he would have to pay now.

And I think Bliss and others have said, hiring a woman is about controling the whole situation.

Finally-------treacle, not sure I'll ever see you quite the same way (but who cares---most of us will
never actually "see" each other anyway winking smiley), but if you're a man and the woman pays for dinner that's
because she wants sex? Or does it not work that way? Why would a woman pay for a meal then?
And to whomever said "This is how guys are - like it or not, ladies" you may take comfort in knowing
you have a lot of company in seeing things this way, but it's really not all men. And I say this as
a lover of men, a friend to many men, a sister to a hoard of brothers, and an observer of human nature.
Sure, some of you see things that way--and I hope it felt good bumping chests here on iorr about how
you're buying sex like commodity in exchange for food from women who---it seems in many of your
experiences you haven't apparently understood very well and--sadly have seemed to have left you
confused, calloused, and let down. And not to be unkind, but that state is one that's rather more likely
to attract the type of women who you do have to pay [with food] in order to sleep with you, because
perhaps there's a scoatch too much bitterness to attract a woman with whom things naturally unfold
leading to a mutual desire to jump each others' bones.

And yeah...it's weird when this kind of convo goes down. Should we women on the board start trotting out
those tired bitter "Men Are This Way" gems? Talk about what some men think sex is about and what we
know is actually often the case? I don't think so. Among other things, this isn't the place, and
it would be divisive and make it a less comfortable and fun atmosphere to hang out in...plus I'm just
not angry enough at or sufficiently bitter about men to do something like that and I enjoy the comraderie (sp?)
here too much to be that obnoxious.

- swiss

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: dandelion1967 ()
Date: May 18, 2012 13:52

Maybe he just can't be satisfied, and just can't keep from cryin... or maybe he can't get no satisfaction...

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"I'm gonna walk... before they make me run"

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Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: May 18, 2012 14:57

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swiss
So ROPENI you're also surprised that Tiger Woods paid [a lot of money] for sex because he was hot
and wealthy and sexy and powerful...?

And sorry to burst anyone's bubble here, but Mick's an old dude now, and 20-somethings [who he'd
probably hire] would not likely be--as someone put it here--throwing any panties his way. He's their
grandfather's age and...well, just not that hot any more--I mean he's probably appealing in some ways
and still's "got it," to some extent, but his age and relative unattractiveness to the women of the level
of beauty he formerly attracted effortlessly may be another reason he would have to pay now.

And I think Bliss and others have said, hiring a woman is about controling the whole situation.

Finally-------treacle, not sure I'll ever see you quite the same way (but who cares---most of us will
never actually "see" each other anyway winking smiley), but if you're a man and the woman pays for dinner that's
because she wants sex? Or does it not work that way? Why would a woman pay for a meal then?
And to whomever said "This is how guys are - like it or not, ladies" you may take comfort in knowing
you have a lot of company in seeing things this way, but it's really not all men. And I say this as
a lover of men, a friend to many men, a sister to a hoard of brothers, and an observer of human nature.
Sure, some of you see things that way--and I hope it felt good bumping chests here on iorr about how
you're buying sex like commodity in exchange for food from women who---it seems in many of your
experiences you haven't apparently understood very well and--sadly have seemed to have left you
confused, calloused, and let down. And not to be unkind, but that state is one that's rather more likely
to attract the type of women who you do have to pay [with food] in order to sleep with you, because
perhaps there's a scoatch too much bitterness to attract a woman with whom things naturally unfold
leading to a mutual desire to jump each others' bones.

And yeah...it's weird when this kind of convo goes down. Should we women on the board start trotting out
those tired bitter "Men Are This Way" gems? Talk about what some men think sex is about and what we
know is actually often the case? I don't think so. Among other things, this isn't the place, and
it would be divisive and make it a less comfortable and fun atmosphere to hang out in...plus I'm just
not angry enough at or sufficiently bitter about men to do something like that and I enjoy the comraderie (sp?)
here too much to be that obnoxious.

- swiss

Hi Swiss,l have seen the light,yes now l see why Mick would pay for sex,privacy,no commitment,plus all the other hundreds of reason stated by everyone here smileys with beer

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: May 18, 2012 15:00

If he did,and i am sure he did, good for him
I hope he enjoyed it 100%
jeroen

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: aprilfool ()
Date: May 18, 2012 17:14

Why not, Hugh Grand paid for sex and don't forget DSK too..>grinning smiley<

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Title5Take1 ()
Date: May 18, 2012 18:28

A friend of mine had a girl pursuing him aggressively one summer. He told me, "What bugs me is her boyfriend." I said, "You don't want to sleep with her because she'd be cheating on her boyfriend?" He said, "No, her boyfriend is ugly! So it's none too flattering that she wants to sleep with me." Part of the flattery of sex is the standards of the person wanting to sleep with you. That's all canceled out with prostitutes. "That whore slept with Jagger. And then she slept with Jerry Springer." So I hope Mick didn't sleep with any, other than the time Bill Wyman mentioned in STONE ALONE where the prostitutes were just offered to Mick and Bill as a free amenity by a promoter.

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Claire_M ()
Date: May 18, 2012 18:40

It's not that he "has to" hire prostitutes, he wants to. Mick has spoken publicly about it - I remember in Creem magazine in the 80's he talked about a brothel he visited where the women had numbers printed on their clothes. You looked at them from behind a glass & then "ordered" one or more by number.

Sting is another one notorious for hiring prostitutes. I know one isn't supposed to be judgmental, but I really can't respect a man who treats women like a commodity. Especially someone like Sting who presents himself as a great humanitarian, enlightened & sensitive soul. Gag.

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: May 18, 2012 19:02

Sorry to disagree BUT when I last saw Mick and Co in 2006, thee were STILL young chicks tossing bras and panties up on that B-Stage to him, and he was 63 then!! Frank Sinatra, even Tony Bennett today are ( or WERE in the case of Sinatra) VERY appealing to young women at any age...if you've got IT, you've got IT, it " doesn't FADE AWAY".

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: May 18, 2012 20:42

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mickschix
Sorry to disagree BUT when I last saw Mick and Co in 2006, thee were STILL young chicks tossing bras and panties up on that B-Stage to him, and he was 63 then!! Frank Sinatra, even Tony Bennett today are ( or WERE in the case of Sinatra) VERY appealing to young women at any age...if you've got IT, you've got IT, it " doesn't FADE AWAY".

Well...true enough I suppose...and also some people are starfockers and will sleep with anything that has enough power and name-recognition winking smiley

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: May 18, 2012 21:41

Not enough of a reason to rip your panties off and toss them up on stage!! That means that women would throw themselves at a powerful man like a Henry Kissenger perhaps! NOT HAPPENING!

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: May 18, 2012 21:42

Just make peace with it, Swiss, the guy has more sex appeal in his little pinkie than most other guys have in their entire package. winking smiley

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: May 18, 2012 23:31

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mickschix
Not enough of a reason to rip your panties off and toss them up on stage!! That means that women would throw themselves at a powerful man like a Henry Kissenger perhaps! NOT HAPPENING!

Believe it or not.....some would! I lived in DC for a dozen years and you would be surprised at the
powerful and fugly men some women would throw themselves at.

As I said, I'm sure Mick still holds genuine appeal for many women. Would he hold that appeal
to all of those women if he were not a massive celebrity? Who's to say? And I don't mean you,
at all. You know what you're attracted to, and probably in real life are attracted to men who
share characteristics with Mick (who he is, or who he seems to be - nod to stonesrule on her
point in another thread that a lot of this is fan-projection on our parts). But for many of us, and
I'd gander especially the case with women in their 20s, he's just no longer very appealing. I
met Mick at a party in 1979---and he was certainly powerful and magnetic in the way uber
celebrities are---and altho I was a young teen, he wasn't my cup of tea then, and doubt he
would be now. I don't tend to "like" guys with the vibe that I picked up from Mick in real
life (even while admiring them and being unintentionally impressed by their enormous power
and very intact ego, and can be amused by them). And I haven't met Keith yet,and I could
be 100% wrong (that projection thing), but my hunch is he's more like the guys I do actually
like. Tho I wouldn't throw underthings at Keith either!

To each his own, right? winking smiley

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: May 19, 2012 00:06

>>>>I met Mick at a party in 1979

PLEASE ELABORATE!

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: May 19, 2012 00:25

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swiss


And sorry to burst anyone's bubble here, but Mick's an old dude now, and 20-somethings [who he'd
probably hire] would not likely be--as someone put it here--throwing any panties his way. He's their
grandfather's age and...well, just not that hot any more--I mean he's probably appealing in some ways
and still's "got it," to some extent, but his age and relative unattractiveness to the women of the level
of beauty he formerly attracted effortlessly may be another reason he would have to pay now.


- swiss
This book which makes all these claims refers to the 80's, when Mick was about 40 and still attractive - and one can choose to believe or dismiss it

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: May 19, 2012 00:44

Quote
Claire_M
It's not that he "has to" hire prostitutes

No one has to - it's a choice. Whether you're a multi-millionaire 'rock star'or a regular guy.

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: May 19, 2012 00:51

The strange thing is that they rewarded this guy with a knighthood...

Re: A new book claims Mick paid for sex,it doesn't make sense..
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: May 19, 2012 02:24

I do agree that everyone has their own thing that makes someone appealing to them; for me, the minute I saw the Stones on tv in the 60's ( in black & white, no less) I was enormously attracted to him...the way he moved, the James Brown improvised moves, just about everything....so, that attraction never faded, in fact it grew. I was afraid that if I ever met him I'd be crushed because I thought he could never live up to my expectations...so WRONG! When I met him in 1982 in NYC in front of his townhouse on Central Park West, it was surreal..., he was so sweet, attentive, held my hand, walked to me to introduce himself to me, hugged me around the waist....absolute gentleman. The next time we met was 1998 in mOntreal, I had a little gift for him, he was even nicer that time! We had a private little chat, about the shows at the Molson Centre, now Bell Centre, talked about music...again, he held on to my hand the entire time...as a matter of fact, his bodyguard dragged him away because fans saw us after 5 minutes and the screaming was outrageous...so, I can say without hesitation that he has real magnitism but in a real, down to earth way.
Oh and Stoneage, he IS a knight!

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