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ugh.
Let's hope you're wrong!
Yeah. No kidding!
Although it does appear from what has been released thus far that they are going with the most famous and/or popular booted titles, I would expect something like Atlantic City 89 or Leeds 71 to come out. Regarding any shows released post 89, I would be happy as hell if they released the 1995 Paradiso gig due to the set list and venue departure for the time.
It doesnt ignore half of their performing career, though.
The Stones played their 1,000th show in 1967.
Their 2,000th was played in 2006.
BBC sessions
Olympia radio recordings
Honolulu'66
Sydney'66 ain't bad either.
Maybe thats true. . But all new released cd dvd we got last 5 years were recordings all of us already have. .. Brussel la75 or hampton. . Just like the future bootleg in 2 months. . It will ne well known. . NOTHING we have never heard before. ... So thats why miami or tokyo (both tv shows) could be the next one. ... I myself love to get club shows like paradiso or sheperds bush
...and the Chess Sessions, although they don't seem to fit the bill for this so far.
Hmm.. this is just very rough speculation from my side but somehow I tend to think that special shows are out of the scheme here. They just want to offer a great show that represents certain tour very well (and has a bootleg reputation). So, Altamont, Hyde Park, Knebworth and I am afraid El Mocambo is out of question here. The Nicaragua concert belongs to those as well.
So I wouldn't be very surprised if two or three shows come from the following ones: LIVER THAN YOU'LL EVER BE (69), LEEDS (71), WELCOME TO NEW YORK (72), ATLANTIC CITY (89). My heart wishes Jones era recording but that seems to be unlikely. But what is within my will is that no recording without Bill Wyman will ever find its way to my computer (if it costs something).
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-08 20:08 by Doxa.
Crazy!!!
I bloody hope not!
I'd googled El Cocojambo, sorry to say that the STONES had never played
at this place
HMN
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Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
LieB
()
Date: April 7, 2012 16:48
Apart from El Cocojambo, I've definitely had enough of Ronnie shows for now. Sure, I'd love to hear more from '78 and '81, but certainly not at the cost of monster shows like Philly/NYC/Boston/Charlotte/DC '72, Sydney/Perth '73, Essen '70, etc. etc.
The '72 tour is still criminally underrepresented. They should have released the L&G dvd with a live cd like they did with Some Girls in Texas. But maybe it means that they're gonna release it as part of these six archive releases.
If they release something from later than '82, I ain't paying for it.
The '72 tour is still criminally underrepresented. They should have released the L&G dvd with a live cd like they did with Some Girls in Texas. But maybe it means that they're gonna release it as part of these six archive releases.
If they release something from later than '82, I ain't paying for it.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
melillo
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Date: April 7, 2012 17:40
a 71 show with wild horses and CYHMK would do just fine
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: April 7, 2012 18:00
They have already picked the 6 boots. 2 70s shows and one 81 down. My guess is the next one will be Atlantic City 89 and thereafter one 90s show and one 00s show.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: April 7, 2012 18:16
Quote
Stoneage
They have already picked the 6 boots. 2 70s shows and one 81 down. My guess is the next one will be Atlantic City 89 and thereafter one 90s show and one 00s show.
ugh.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Paul Kersey
()
Date: April 7, 2012 18:37
Quote
Stoneage
They have already picked the 6 boots. 2 70s shows and one 81 down. My guess is the next one will be Atlantic City 89 and thereafter one 90s show and one 00s show.
Let's hope you're wrong!
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Tumblin_Dice_07
()
Date: April 7, 2012 21:02
As others have pointed out, there's absolutely nothing in these first 3 releases to give us the idea that we'll get something like an unheard '71 show or a pristine '70 show.
Famous bootleg TITLES is the thing here. "Brussels Affair" is probably the most famous of all. Nevermind that most of the music was different, the selling point was the name on that one. The L.A. '75 show and Hampton '81 were represented by a 1000 different releases and titles but they are very popular bootlegs.
We'll get something like "Live'r Than You'll Ever Be" Leeds '71,or "Philadelphia Special" or "Welcome To New York" or maybe the Perth '73 show or "Garden State '78". Maybe Atlantic City '89. Honestly, I know "Live'r" was the first Stones boot and is very famous, but I hope we don't get that one. The '69 tour is already well documented with the Ya Ya's stuff which is much better than Oakland '69. I don't think the "Live'r" performance is anything special.
Famous bootleg TITLES is the thing here. "Brussels Affair" is probably the most famous of all. Nevermind that most of the music was different, the selling point was the name on that one. The L.A. '75 show and Hampton '81 were represented by a 1000 different releases and titles but they are very popular bootlegs.
We'll get something like "Live'r Than You'll Ever Be" Leeds '71,or "Philadelphia Special" or "Welcome To New York" or maybe the Perth '73 show or "Garden State '78". Maybe Atlantic City '89. Honestly, I know "Live'r" was the first Stones boot and is very famous, but I hope we don't get that one. The '69 tour is already well documented with the Ya Ya's stuff which is much better than Oakland '69. I don't think the "Live'r" performance is anything special.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
LieB
()
Date: April 7, 2012 21:03
Quote
Paul KerseyQuote
Stoneage
They have already picked the 6 boots. 2 70s shows and one 81 down. My guess is the next one will be Atlantic City 89 and thereafter one 90s show and one 00s show.
Let's hope you're wrong!
Yeah. No kidding!
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Kuntaman
()
Date: April 7, 2012 21:20
Anything from Europe tour 1970 that was recorded by the Stones themself? A release from this tour, wouldn't that be a surprise?
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
MrMonte
()
Date: April 7, 2012 21:55
I don't get the animosity toward pretty much ANY release from the second half of the Stones' career - (1989 on). I understand the greatness and the allure of the old stuff, but it ignores HALF of their career. I think the difference is that there are fewer shows from the latter half that we'd want - whereas there are just oodles from the first half that would be just fine. I for one would be very happy to get Atlantic City 1989 or one of the club shows from the 1990s or later.
The vast majority of posters here seem to be clamoring for another tour - yet at the same time seem ready to just slag the second half of their career, and in particular the megatours,to no end. Seems like an inconsistency to me. No, the tours weren't the same. But they were damn good at times!
MM
The vast majority of posters here seem to be clamoring for another tour - yet at the same time seem ready to just slag the second half of their career, and in particular the megatours,to no end. Seems like an inconsistency to me. No, the tours weren't the same. But they were damn good at times!
MM
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Sighunt
()
Date: April 7, 2012 22:33
Quote
MrMonte
I don't get the animosity toward pretty much ANY release from the second half of the Stones' career - (1989 on). I understand the greatness and the allure of the old stuff, but it ignores HALF of their career. I think the difference is that there are fewer shows from the latter half that we'd want - whereas there are just oodles from the first half that would be just fine. I for one would be very happy to get Atlantic City 1989 or one of the club shows from the 1990s or later.
The vast majority of posters here seem to be clamoring for another tour - yet at the same time seem ready to just slag the second half of their career, and in particular the megatours,to no end. Seems like an inconsistency to me. No, the tours weren't the same. But they were damn good at times!
MM
Although it does appear from what has been released thus far that they are going with the most famous and/or popular booted titles, I would expect something like Atlantic City 89 or Leeds 71 to come out. Regarding any shows released post 89, I would be happy as hell if they released the 1995 Paradiso gig due to the set list and venue departure for the time.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Gazza
()
Date: April 7, 2012 22:36
Quote
MrMonte
I don't get the animosity toward pretty much ANY release from the second half of the Stones' career - (1989 on). I understand the greatness and the allure of the old stuff, but it ignores HALF of their career. I think the difference is that there are fewer shows from the latter half that we'd want - whereas there are just oodles from the first half that would be just fine. I for one would be very happy to get Atlantic City 1989 or one of the club shows from the 1990s or later.
The vast majority of posters here seem to be clamoring for another tour - yet at the same time seem ready to just slag the second half of their career, and in particular the megatours,to no end. Seems like an inconsistency to me. No, the tours weren't the same. But they were damn good at times!
MM
It doesnt ignore half of their performing career, though.
The Stones played their 1,000th show in 1967.
Their 2,000th was played in 2006.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
opj
()
Date: April 7, 2012 23:53
The next show must be "Get Your Leeds Lungs Out"
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
LieB
()
Date: April 8, 2012 00:04
The main gripe for me is that some of their best and most legendary performances are still non-represented officially, or not at all. We don't have a live album from '72, and nothing apart from Got Live if You Want It and Rock 'n' Roll Circus from the whole Brian Jones era.
At the same time, we already have pretty well-produced official live albums and films from pretty much every tour 1989-2007 (and 1975-81 too, for that matter), many of which -- in my opinion -- sound alike.
At the same time, we already have pretty well-produced official live albums and films from pretty much every tour 1989-2007 (and 1975-81 too, for that matter), many of which -- in my opinion -- sound alike.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
nankerphlege
()
Date: April 8, 2012 03:09
What are the most popular pre 69 boots?
Go Dawgs!
Go Dawgs!
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: April 8, 2012 12:58
Quote
nankerphlege
What are the most popular pre 69 boots?
BBC sessions
Olympia radio recordings
Honolulu'66
Sydney'66 ain't bad either.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
GOO
()
Date: April 8, 2012 13:59
The next bootleg will be from 1989-90
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
DECCA61
()
Date: April 8, 2012 14:48
.....Quote
dcbaQuote
DECCA61
This also good be a good change for a future bootleg release; TOKYO 1990 - URBAN JUNGLE LONDON - VOODOO AT HALLOWEEN or MIAMI
Triple yuck! Give us 1982 (London 1st?) 1978 (Detroit?) or El Mocambo instead!
Miami was a never-ending trainwreck. I remember being shocked watching it shaking my head in disbelief thinking what a great PPV they had given us just 5 years before in 1989.
Maybe thats true. . But all new released cd dvd we got last 5 years were recordings all of us already have. .. Brussel la75 or hampton. . Just like the future bootleg in 2 months. . It will ne well known. . NOTHING we have never heard before. ... So thats why miami or tokyo (both tv shows) could be the next one. ... I myself love to get club shows like paradiso or sheperds bush
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Lil' Brian
()
Date: April 8, 2012 15:32
Quote
dcbaQuote
nankerphlege
What are the most popular pre 69 boots?
BBC sessions
Olympia radio recordings
Honolulu'66
Sydney'66 ain't bad either.
...and the Chess Sessions, although they don't seem to fit the bill for this so far.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: April 8, 2012 19:35
One suggestion : the Nicaragua Benefit. The first 4/5 songs are rough due to lack of practice by the band but after it's pretty decent.
And the setlist is quite unique...
And the setlist is quite unique...
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: April 8, 2012 20:05
Quote
dcba
One suggestion : the Nicaragua Benefit. The first 4/5 songs are rough due to lack of practice by the band but after it's pretty decent.
And the setlist is quite unique...
Hmm.. this is just very rough speculation from my side but somehow I tend to think that special shows are out of the scheme here. They just want to offer a great show that represents certain tour very well (and has a bootleg reputation). So, Altamont, Hyde Park, Knebworth and I am afraid El Mocambo is out of question here. The Nicaragua concert belongs to those as well.
So I wouldn't be very surprised if two or three shows come from the following ones: LIVER THAN YOU'LL EVER BE (69), LEEDS (71), WELCOME TO NEW YORK (72), ATLANTIC CITY (89). My heart wishes Jones era recording but that seems to be unlikely. But what is within my will is that no recording without Bill Wyman will ever find its way to my computer (if it costs something).
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-08 20:08 by Doxa.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Raluca
()
Date: April 8, 2012 22:16
Liverpool, 12th March 71 would be great !!!
Greetings Raluca
Greetings Raluca
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: April 9, 2012 00:02
Use probability theory. They have already released two 70s boots; one 71 and one 75. And they have, besides that, released two 70s concert DVD:s ( 72 and 78). They will in total release six boots. Do you really think the next one will be another 70s recording?
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
GJV
()
Date: April 9, 2012 00:51
I've already said this somewhere else,
the 6 shows they will releasing were already known to some degree.
Brussels, Hampton and L.A. were right, so the chance that the others were right too is very big:
Atlantic City '89, Miami '94 and Oakland '69
althought the last one could've been replaced by San Jose '99.
No other shows are gonna be released this year, so forget Paradiso, El Mocambo and all the other real great ones, it's not gonna happen.
It's a pitty, that's for sure...maybe next year?
the 6 shows they will releasing were already known to some degree.
Brussels, Hampton and L.A. were right, so the chance that the others were right too is very big:
Atlantic City '89, Miami '94 and Oakland '69
althought the last one could've been replaced by San Jose '99.
No other shows are gonna be released this year, so forget Paradiso, El Mocambo and all the other real great ones, it's not gonna happen.
It's a pitty, that's for sure...maybe next year?
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: April 9, 2012 01:42
Oakland '69
Philadelphia '72
El Mocombo '77...............
Philadelphia '72
El Mocombo '77...............
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: April 9, 2012 02:17
Quote
Gazza
The Stones played their 1,000th show in 1967.
Crazy!!!
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: April 9, 2012 02:20
Quote
Stoneage
Use probability theory. They have already released two 70s boots; one 73 and one 75. And they have, besides that, released two 70s concert DVD:s ( 72 and 78). They will in total release six boots. Do you really think the next one will be another 70s recording?
I bloody hope not!
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Honestman
()
Date: April 9, 2012 02:32
Quote
LieB
Apart from El Cocojambo...
I'd googled El Cocojambo, sorry to say that the STONES had never played
at this place
HMN
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: April 9, 2012 02:34
Quote
HonestmanQuote
LieB
Apart from El Cocojambo...
I'd googled El Cocojambo, sorry to say that the STONES had never played
at this place
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
ryanpow
()
Date: April 9, 2012 02:37
El Machete would be a good choice because the show they were doing had evolved into something different from 75 and 76, its kind of like a tighter version of Knebworth. So it would be unlike anything that's already been released. We already have L&G and live in texas, now Brussels and LA. the YAYA's with added tracks is like a complete 69 show. the 77 version of the band would be something unique. If not the next one I hope its one of the next 3.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-09 02:44 by ryanpow.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-04-09 02:44 by ryanpow.
Re: Next official bootlegs? Your opinions ...
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: April 9, 2012 03:06
Thanks for your correction on The Brussels gig, H M. It was done in `73 not `71 as I falsely stated.
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