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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: August 8, 2014 16:41

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Drummerboy

Yeah. Unless he's playing with a band - he's just noodling - playing a guitar for his own amusement.

Yep, I get your point. And for his fans sake he could easily have made a 45 minutes album called "just noodling for my own amusement" - without a band. That would have been great. The link below proves it, enough talent there, don't you think? smiling smiley

[www.youtube.com]

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 8, 2014 20:40

Hi Luxurystones.

You're obviously much too sensitive about MT & the noodling bit. You don't need to remind me that Mick's got talent

So let's end it here.



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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: August 8, 2014 20:47

No, I'm not too sensitive, I just think you're ignoring the noodling subject/link a bit deliberately. So agreed, lets end it here.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-08 20:56 by LuxuryStones.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 8, 2014 21:26

Hi Luxurystones

What do you mean "ignoring the noodling subject/link a bit deliberately"

I'm new to this forum stuff - did I forget to check a box or something.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: August 8, 2014 21:35

Thanks for sharing your story, Drummerboy. And welcome aboard! smileys with beer

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: August 8, 2014 21:58

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Drummerboy
Hi Luxurystones

What do you mean "ignoring the noodling subject/link a bit deliberately"

I'm new to this forum stuff - did I forget to check a box or something.

Taylor can play the guitar just alone, playing chords and slide, keep the groove going for minutes, without a band accompanying him. Not just for himself, but for a larger audience. The clip I posted twice in reply to you, that's no noodling like you state. Unless you missed the link twice of course. smiling smiley

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Stoneburst ()
Date: August 8, 2014 23:10

That link directed me to a porn site

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: moonlightaffair ()
Date: August 9, 2014 03:15

Link worked for me. No porn just amazing guitar by MT.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Date: August 9, 2014 09:13

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moonlightaffair
Link worked for me. No porn just amazing guitar by MT.

Taylor-noodling IS like porn for the Taylorites grinning smiley

I liked the first clip better, Luxury - with Dylan.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: August 9, 2014 10:38

I see your point DandelionPowderman. Sometimes I get more pleasure listening to Mick T's infamous "noodling". Guess I'm a Taylorite thru and thru.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 9, 2014 12:10

Dear Luxurystones.
RE. the link. Like Stoneburst all I got was a pornsite - twice.
Either way I don't need to watch video of Mick doing his thing. I've sat on stage & watched him do it countless times. It seems my appearance on this forum has, to a certain extent, put the cat amongst the pigeons mainly due to the perhaps inappropriate choice of the N-word. I note that until I stuck my nose in there had not been a post since 2012 - please correct me if I'm wrong, so in a way I've woken you all up, which can't be a bad thing. In an earlier post you said something about "starting this thread". What does that mean, & what was the premise/subject of said thread.

In my original post where I used the N-word, all I was trying to say is - don't forget the other instrumentalists. We are so often overlooked because of the on-stage presence of a guitar hero. Incidentally got to watch your Mick link. The pornsite was I think another link.



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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 9, 2014 14:35

Attention: TheGreek

If you want to hear more - ask me a question.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Date: August 9, 2014 15:05

I got Taylor playing acoustic in LA 1993 when I pressed the link...

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 9, 2014 15:23

Yeah. That's what I got.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-08-09 15:24 by Drummerboy.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: August 9, 2014 17:02

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Drummerboy
Yeah. That's what I got.

Me too!

Welcome to IORR Drummerboy, enjoy your stay! smileys with beer
Would like to hear some stories from your long carreer, especially from your Mick Taylor years (hope you can understand my/our particular passion).
Greetings from Argentina.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 9, 2014 20:23

Thankyou for your welcome. Quique-stone . Yes I understand your passion.

Something I should make clear to all the IORR followers. I posted because I came across stuff that related to the Dylan band of 84, about which I had some inside knowledge so I decided to share that with you. Now I realize it's a forum/fanzone devoted to chatting about the Stones. That's OK. the Stones have been a big part of Brit musical history, have released some very good albums and have loads of fans. Unlike - I would imagine - all of you guys, I've never bought a Stones album. This doesn't mean I don't rate them, it just means I was more interested in other stuff. These days I don't really listen to music as such although I do enjoy finding stuff on the net. I'm not prepared to write stories about my long career but will endeavor to answer any questions that relate to Mick Taylor if I can.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: OutOfTime ()
Date: August 9, 2014 21:05

Reading this thread made think of Focus, a dutch band, which had a certain Drummerboy in the 70's. Had a look at YouTube toay and came across a Danisch TVshow from 75 uploaded by Jan Akkerman (ex-Focus guitarist) himself in january 2014.
Not my kind of music as a Rolling Stones believer, but still interesting as a music loving dutchman.
Thanks Drummerboy.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: August 9, 2014 21:20

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OutOfTime
Reading this thread made think of Focus, a dutch band, which had a certain Drummerboy in the 70's. Had a look at YouTube toay and came across a Danisch TVshow from 75 uploaded by Jan Akkerman (ex-Focus guitarist) himself in january 2014.
Not my kind of music as a Rolling Stones believer, but still interesting as a music loving dutchman.
Thanks Drummerboy.
Hocus Pocus!!

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: August 9, 2014 21:25

It's all clear Drummerboy, at least for me!
And it's not a condition for any registered member of IORR or to post here to have bought a Stones album, anyway it could be that you are the only one...or not! I/we have bought many Stones albums and some or it could be maybe all many times in all it's formats and editions but you are the one who played so many times with one of our heroes. LOL
Without no doubt Bob Dylan's 1984 tour is related to the Stones, because of Mick's and Ian McLagan's being part of the band and because of your participation and connection to Mick too. Also the Real Live album with Glyn Johns production is connected too.
The case is that you are here and you are welcome! Again, enjoy your stay and participation, that's important!

Don't know what to ask you, but I'm interested in knowing how the 1982 John Mayall's Bluesbreakers Reunion tour was... I always asked myself why a studio album wasn't released after the tour ended...maybe because of the commercial contracts you four had at the time...

And what about your Rod Stewart years...

Hey Quique-stone, let walk slowly, step by step and ask one question per post...sorry... LOL

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: August 10, 2014 01:29

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DandelionPowderman

I liked the first clip better, Luxury - with Dylan.

One of the best things he ever did on occasions: with Dylan indeed, imo, triggered me to listen to that stuff.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: moonlightaffair ()
Date: August 10, 2014 04:05

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DandelionPowderman
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moonlightaffair
Link worked for me. No porn just amazing guitar by MT.

Taylor-noodling IS like porn for the Taylorites grinning smiley

Good one Dandie. winking smiley



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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 10, 2014 11:57

Dear Dutchman -OutofTime.

My reply's will be done in sequence otherwise I'll get lost.

Yes I did indeed play with Focus for a year and a half. Understand it's not your kind of music. As a musician trying to make a buck I played with whatever band came my way as long as I thought I'd find "SATISFACTION". At the time Focus were enjoying much success so it seemed like something to be involved in. I thought Akkerman to be a great guitarist & I enjoy music that employs beautiful chords changes so although having previously played in blues, R & B type bands I thought I'd give Focus a go. The tension between Thijs & Jan that eventually caused the band to implode was always present but didn't really have too much of an impact on me. We were constantly touring so there was much other stuff to contend with. I also came across the Danish TV. video that Jan posted. The fact that he had intentionally called it "Focus with Colin" was interesting because he was the reason I got kicked out of the band. Perhaps he had finally realized that my input wasn't so bad after all. Although it's not your type of music as a Dutchman you should be proud of them. As far as that type of music goes they are held in high esteem. Tot ziens.



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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: August 10, 2014 14:06

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy


Dear Luxurystones.

In an earlier post you said something about "starting this thread". What does that mean, & what was the premise/subject of said thread.

In my original post where I used the N-word, all I was trying to say is - don't forget the other instrumentalists. We are so often overlooked because of the on-stage presence of a guitar hero. Incidentally got to watch your Mick link. The pornsite was I think another link.
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Hi Drummerboy,

By "starting this thread" I mean that I was the poster that started the topic " MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984 " way back in 2012. Not that it's really important that it was me, as the subject might already have been beaten to death prior to 2012. I pointed out several times that you were a great sounding band, so I didn't overlook the other instrumentalist. It's just that I feel cause of the genre, in this case the drums, bas and keys are "just" backing up Dylan, while Taylor, who's one of my favorite guitarists, was lucky to have a more prominent role, the lead guitarist.

If this topic was about bands like Mahavishnu, BrandX, Return to forever etc, I might have been more enthusiastic about all the individual band members,because they are all in the picture in fusion, not a very popular kind of music on iorr.org

I don't understand what you mean by "In a way I've all woken you up", maybe I'm just getting old.smiling smiley

As far as this pornsite is concerned, I don't know who posted that or changed the link, not my cup of tea.

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 10, 2014 15:18

Mr. Quique-stone

Actually I've played with Keith also on a John Philip's (Mama's & Pappa's) session at Olympic Studio, that Mick J was producing - way back. I think Mick T was there as well. At times Mick J performed some of his best moves in front of the drums.
The Bluesbreaker reunion in 82 fell into my lap because the first choice Mick Fleetwood was busy in France, mixing the "Mirage" album. Mayall called, I went to meet with him & got the gig. I wasn't an official Bluesbreaker because when I first joined Mayall in 68 that was the first band that didn't use that tag. It was just John Mayall. I hadn't played with MT or indeed seen him for several years but immediately it was just like old times. When Mayall called me in 68 to play with him, after chatting briefly, I said "Yeah, OK. John I'll do it - when do we rehearse". To which he replied "Oh we don't rehearse" For the 82 thing we did actually get together in a bar on Sunset Boulevard to play a bit but it was never more that playing through a couple of sequences of a few of the songs he wanted to check out. We played a few gigs in California & then some time later flew to Australia. That was followed by a few more gigs in California & then we began the East Coast tour towards the end of which we did the Capitol Theatre gig with amongst others, Albert King, Buddy Guy, & Etta James - perhaps many of you have seen the video of that very long show. It was jammed from beginning to end. No rehearsing whatsoever. For the Italian & other European touring after that, John McVie was replaced on bass by old mate Steve Thompson - so it was the "Laurel Canyon" boys back together after about 14 years. It was always fun to go on stage & play - no bad vibes in that band. Of course everybody loved Mick's playing.
Further to the odd comments posted that the Dylan band sounded a bit like the Stones- yesterday I Skyped my brother-in-law, & he said that at the Wembley gig, being seated in the Royal Box, he had Pete Townsend next to him and apparently Pete made a similar comment about the band. Incidentally whilst talking to Mick Jagger backstage my mother grabbed him & gave him a kiss on the cheek.
There were no Rod Stewart years for me. When I moved to Los Angeles I met up with Rod & his band during a football kick-about he would often have close to his home on a Sunday morning if he was in town. After the football we went to a bar & sat around chatting. At one point I think we were discussing drummers & he said "Charlie Watts use to play in Dixieland bands" to which I replied, "So did I". He then said "Oh in that case I think that maybe you should come & do a bit of playing with us". This I did & eventually I found myself playing on his "Foolish Behaviour" album which was produced & engineered by another name you will recognize Andy Johns. Should add that regarding any kind of Bluesbreaker Reunion album -the subject never came up.



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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: August 10, 2014 16:13

Wow! Great stories, Drummerboy. I don't really have anything to add to this thread, just wanted to say welcome to IORR and thanks for sharing your memories with us. smiling smiley

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 10, 2014 16:36

Hi Luxurystones,

I kinda got the drift about starting the thread over the last day or two. I do note that you thought we were a good sounding band........Thankyou.

As far as just backing up Dylan goes. A four piece band is like a table with a leg on each corner. Each leg - in the general scheme of things - is as important as the next, otherwise - it wobbles. Sure Mick had a more prominent role, because he's the guy who took most of the solo's but the fact of the matter is, to use your expression - technically - we were all "backing up Bob".
Mick was, as we all were for that tour - a member of Bob's band. If any artiste hires a band they will in effect be backing him, regardless of who those guys are & regardless of their track record. Until Mick took a solo he was backing up Bob just like the rest of us & even his solos - because they were part of the Bob Dylan show - could also be argued as a form of backing up Bob. Some of the songs needed a bit of a break so somebody plays a solo - it happens all the time. Actually I hate that expression "backing him up". We were playing his songs & he was playing rhythm guitar & singing & the sound the audience hears is a result of collective effort without any regard to star status. I know you are a big fan of Mick's but he should be seen in the context of what he was doing at that time. Mick is also one of my favourite players. I love the guy! In retrospect, that we sounded as good as we did when considering the lack of constructive rehearsals & only 27 gigs to make a difference, I would say we made a silk purse out of a sow's ear - a bit of a miracle I suppose but bottom line - the result of our collective fortitude in the face of adversity........That could be a line from a Dylan song. Regarding the waking you up bit -it relates to me noticing that regarding the thread there had not been to much action of late that I could see. Nothing bad intendedsmiling smiley That 's the first smiley I've ever used in my life - heartwarming!



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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: August 10, 2014 17:51

Colin thx for the very entertaining read! smileys with beer

Kepp on keeping on!

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: August 10, 2014 19:23

Thank you very much Drummerboy for taking the time and dedication to writing and answering to us. As said above by latebloomer thanks for sharing your memories with us! You rock man! I knew you do but having this kind of first hand stories is wonderful!
I'm from South America and don't know if your book will be available but will try to get it somehow the day it sees the light!

And btw, as fans and collectors I/we do have many bootleg recording's you might be playing in... You said you are not listening much music since you retired but if we can do anything for you...you know what I mean...

My highest respect and thanks again!
smileys with beer (I like to use this emoticon)



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Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: OutOfTime ()
Date: August 10, 2014 20:16

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Drummerboy
Dear Dutchman -OutofTime.

My reply's will be done in sequence otherwise I'll get lost.

Yes I did indeed play with Focus for a year and a half. Understand it's not your kind of music. As a musician trying to make a buck I played with whatever band came my way as long as I thought I'd find "SATISFACTION". At the time Focus were enjoying much success so it seemed like something to be involved in. I thought Akkerman to be a great guitarist & I enjoy music that employs beautiful chords changes so although having previously played in blues, R & B type bands I thought I'd give Focus a go. The tension between Thijs & Jan that eventually caused the band to imploded was always present but didn't really have too much of an impact on me. We were constantly touring so there was much other stuff to contend with. I also came across the Danish TV. video that Jan posted. The fact that he had intentionally called it "Focus with Colin" was interesting because he was the reason I got kicked out of the band. Perhaps he had finally realized that my input wasn't so bad after all. Although it's not your type of music as a Dutchman you should be proud of them. As far as that type of music goes they are held in high esteem. Tot ziens.
thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up
Great! Thanks man, Drummerman... ofcourse I'm proud as a Dutchman of Focus,if I did not I wouldn't have known you were their drummer for England for a while in the mid-70's! (I'm only 50 you know) Hahaha.
All the best from Hollandsmiling smiley

Re: MT+ Bob Dylan, live in Rotterdam 1984.
Posted by: Drummerboy ()
Date: August 10, 2014 20:51

Hi Quique-stone
Thanks for the thanks - both you, dcba & OutofTime.

For an old dude like me with time on my hands it's no big deal. I just know stuff that's all & if some of it is interesting that's fine. Fans should get some feedback.

I know you're from Argentina I remember from your first post. If we can keep away from the subject of the Falkland Islands everything will be fine. LOLsmiling smiley

Thanks for the offer of "boots" but I don't think I need any.

I have no idea in what form my book will be in on the market - haven't given it much thought - these days I could do it myself on the net through Amazon or something similar. That's some way in the future. Go Tango - Be Happy.

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