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NO, he plays around the 7th/9th frets, not around the 4th/6th frets !
That's why I think it's not open G capoed 4th !
He positions his hand over the 9th fret while he hits the open B chord (open G capo at 4). He plays it like this ever since '69. Live at Hyde Park, with the short necked ES-330 it is even more obvious.
Mathijs
No. His hand is above the 8th fret, but he doesn't fret the strings when he hits the B chord. His hand doesn't need to be at the 4th position -the capo is there.
Mathijs
Yes, that's where he plays when playing JJF using open G and capo at 4th fret.
He doesn't bar the 7th fret, his hand opens up for the open B chord when playing the chrous at approx 2 minutes 20, but most of all the music and notes heard in tandem with the footage tells us he's using open G with a capo at 4th fret.
The blurry footage is merely making it hard to see the capo. In rehearsal photos for Saville Theatre his les paul custom only has 5 strings and he's shown using a smaller/thinner capo than what he used at Hyde Park, for example.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-29 19:57 by His Majesty.
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Indeed.
like this?
- helpfully illustrating at Hyde Park july 5th 1969 (screen capture by browneyedgirll)
He's talking to a fan sitting right up on stage and doesn't want to leave. That's why he says 'get off boy, get off'.
Mathijs
London - december 14th
It's painful to admit that I didn't know that they played London in december 1969.
well, since you're already in pain anyway ... here's the whole picture:
they played two shows at the Saville Theatre on the 14th, and two at the Lyceum Theatre on december 21st.
there, that wasn't so bad, was it? i won't tell anyone you didn't know all along :E
Thank you. I'm actually proud that I had the guts to put my ignorance out in public (like anyone would give a shit.
Anyway, it's great to know that there is much more to learn when one gets more time to indulge in trivia.
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Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:08
no open G with capo
look carefully at 1'56
look carefully at 1'56
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
steel driving hammer
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:10
Maybe the guitar was tuned to Open G and the capo broke?
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
71Tele
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:14
Keith changes guitars right after JJF, so that would indicate different tuning for the next song which was Carol(?).
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
jpasc95
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:15
to me, Keith seems to be playing in standard tuning
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:16
for unknown reason, I think it's standard tuning with capo at 7th fret
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:26
Tis just same as 1969 US tour version, open G with capo at 4th fret. Taylor in standard tuning.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: February 29, 2012 19:35
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His Majesty
Tis just same as 1969 US tour version, open G with capo at 4th fret. Taylor in standard tuning.
NO, he plays around the 7th/9th frets, not around the 4th/6th frets !
That's why I think it's not open G capoed 4th !
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
GravityBoy
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:43
I think he's playing B by barring at the 7th instead of open G at the 4th.
Maybe because it's a 6 string open E tuned?
Maybe because it's a 6 string open E tuned?
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Mathijs
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:49
Quote
LiveAtHideparkQuote
His Majesty
Tis just same as 1969 US tour version, open G with capo at 4th fret. Taylor in standard tuning.
NO, he plays around the 7th/9th frets, not around the 4th/6th frets !
That's why I think it's not open G capoed 4th !
He positions his hand over the 9th fret while he hits the open B chord (open G capo at 4). He plays it like this ever since '69. Live at Hyde Park, with the short necked ES-330 it is even more obvious.
Mathijs
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: February 29, 2012 19:50
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GravityBoy
I think he's playing B by barring at the 7th instead of open G at the 4th.
Maybe because it's a 6 string open E tuned?
No. His hand is above the 8th fret, but he doesn't fret the strings when he hits the B chord. His hand doesn't need to be at the 4th position -the capo is there.
Mathijs
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
GravityBoy
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:54
Well.. it actually has the same buzz saw sound as open g capo (with the slight bend of the D that I can never do) at the 4th so you're probably right.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: February 29, 2012 19:55
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LiveAtHidepark
NO, he plays around the 7th/9th frets, not around the 4th/6th frets !
Yes, that's where he plays when playing JJF using open G and capo at 4th fret.
Quote
GravityBoy
I think he's playing B by barring at the 7th instead of open G at the 4th.
Maybe because it's a 6 string open E tuned?
He doesn't bar the 7th fret, his hand opens up for the open B chord when playing the chrous at approx 2 minutes 20, but most of all the music and notes heard in tandem with the footage tells us he's using open G with a capo at 4th fret.
The blurry footage is merely making it hard to see the capo. In rehearsal photos for Saville Theatre his les paul custom only has 5 strings and he's shown using a smaller/thinner capo than what he used at Hyde Park, for example.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-29 19:57 by His Majesty.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
LiveAtHidepark
()
Date: February 29, 2012 20:21
OK, it's open D capoed 4th.
sorry for useless thread !
sorry for useless thread !
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: February 29, 2012 20:22
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LiveAtHidepark
OK, it's open D capoed 4th.
sorry for useless thread !
G
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
bestfour
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Date: February 29, 2012 22:07
I think he has the guitar straped on, and he's playing it!!!!!! 
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
vudicus
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Date: February 29, 2012 22:24
He does use standard tuning on the Rock N Roll Circus version however.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: February 29, 2012 22:27
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vudicus
He does use standard tuning on the Rock N Roll Circus version however.
Indeed.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash
Posted by:
with sssoul
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Date: February 29, 2012 22:32
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Mathijs
His hand is above the 8th fret, but he doesn't fret the strings when he hits the B chord.
His hand doesn't need to be at the 4th position - the capo is there.
Quote
His Majesty
He doesn't bar the 7th fret, his hand opens up for the open B chord when playing the chrous ...
he's using open G with a capo at 4th fret
like this?
- helpfully illustrating at Hyde Park july 5th 1969 (screen capture by browneyedgirll)
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: February 29, 2012 22:39
"helpfully illustrating..."
Spot on!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-29 22:43 by His Majesty.
Spot on!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-29 22:43 by His Majesty.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
pmk251
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Date: March 1, 2012 02:28
The 3 song Saville Theatre footage is terrific, such as it is. Anyone know what Jagger is so revved up about during JJF? It's a furious and confrontational opening of the show by the lead singer.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
scottkeef
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Date: March 1, 2012 02:47
I thought he was talking to a roadie or is it an audience member thats f-cking with something? Right at first Mick yells "Get the f-ck outta here' so I assumed it was a member of the crew...
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Bärs
()
Date: March 1, 2012 09:21
What's this "Saville theatre" 1969? Which city?
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Mathijs
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Date: March 1, 2012 09:37
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pmk251
The 3 song Saville Theatre footage is terrific, such as it is. Anyone know what Jagger is so revved up about during JJF? It's a furious and confrontational opening of the show by the lead singer.
He's talking to a fan sitting right up on stage and doesn't want to leave. That's why he says 'get off boy, get off'.
Mathijs
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: March 1, 2012 09:41
Quote
Bärs
What's this "Saville theatre" 1969? Which city?
London - december 14th
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Bärs
()
Date: March 1, 2012 10:19
Quote
with sssoulQuote
Bärs
What's this "Saville theatre" 1969? Which city?
London - december 14th
It's painful to admit that I didn't know that they played London in december 1969.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: March 1, 2012 10:30
Quote
BärsQuote
with sssoulQuote
Bärs
What's this "Saville theatre" 1969? Which city?
London - december 14th
It's painful to admit that I didn't know that they played London in december 1969.
well, since you're already in pain anyway ... here's the whole picture:
they played two shows at the Saville Theatre on the 14th, and two at the Lyceum Theatre on december 21st.
there, that wasn't so bad, was it? i won't tell anyone you didn't know all along :E
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Sacke
()
Date: March 1, 2012 11:02
JJF: raw energy!!
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Bärs
()
Date: March 1, 2012 11:29
Quote
with sssoulQuote
BärsQuote
with sssoulQuote
Bärs
What's this "Saville theatre" 1969? Which city?
London - december 14th
It's painful to admit that I didn't know that they played London in december 1969.
well, since you're already in pain anyway ... here's the whole picture:
they played two shows at the Saville Theatre on the 14th, and two at the Lyceum Theatre on december 21st.
there, that wasn't so bad, was it? i won't tell anyone you didn't know all along :E
Thank you. I'm actually proud that I had the guts to put my ignorance out in public (like anyone would give a shit.
Anyway, it's great to know that there is much more to learn when one gets more time to indulge in trivia.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
jpasc95
()
Date: March 1, 2012 13:09
I have watched this Saville JJF (from 4Reel DVD) on a big screen and I didn't see any capo on Keith guitar.
Re: Saville 1969 - Jumping Jack Flash standard tuning
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: March 1, 2012 14:21
Open G, capo on 4th, played in the open G style he started with in 1969. When did he change the riff was it in 1978 or even 1975? You can hear he changed the riff by 1981. I think the first live version of the riff in open G was the best, it's very tight and focused. 1972 was the best version of the song of course.
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