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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
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if you would listen to what he does, instead of just bash him - very simple old school blues...but cool and fine...
I just think that some of us don't bash Keith but just say what they thought about a guitarist who don't play guitar, you get the nuance ??? ...
- You dont get it - He does play a guitar. If you watch the video posted above - he even plays a solo at the end of Spoonful - Most of you are bashing, when you say that he dont play..naah, he cant play...Bullshit!!! - It´s right there in front of you - Keith´s main focus is on the vocals, yes - but if you actually watch him on that video and LISTEN - you can even see and hear a solo at the end of Spoonful with no fuckups.
Sorry man, that's not what I call 'playing'. That doesn't cut it. I'm not "bashing" Keith. I'm just stating the sad fact that as a musican on any professional level, I believe that Keith is finished. Keith is no blues man, and that video made me very, very sad.
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He quit smoking years ago actually. He only smokes to keep his public image of bad boy alive, on photo shoots etc.
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So, Keith gave up smoking, yet still smokes to keep up his 'public image'? A very poorly articulated statement, there.
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence.
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seitan
Time will tell, let´s see...no point in giving statements like " They Wont Tour" - they might youknow, nothing stopped from keith getting up on stage to pay his respects to Hubert, so he might as well pay his respects to The Rolling Stones fans too, by doing a tour with the Stones, who knows...We will see and you´ll be the one to buy everyone around of drinks if they do.
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
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Time will tell, let´s see...no point in giving statements like " They Wont Tour" - they might youknow, nothing stopped from keith getting up on stage to pay his respects to Hubert, so he might as well pay his respects to The Rolling Stones fans too, by doing a tour with the Stones, who knows...We will see and you´ll be the one to buy everyone around of drinks if they do.
I am not able to predict if they will do a tour. I think they all are truly aware of the fact that Richards is only a shadow of his former self. They ALL know that musically the Shine a Light movie is their absolute low point in their carreer. It will all come down to the fact whether Jagger would want to tour with the current state of Richards and the Stones. And that I actually doubt. I really doubt Jagger would want to do another tour with Richards and this incarnation of the Stones. Why would he? He doesn't need the money and there's no musical interest for him anymore.
The only way I see they can do it it to make it something truly extraordinairy, for example a short tour with just a few shows with Taylor and Wyman. In this way, Richards can pose with his guitar and do his 'Richards the Rock God' act, and Wood and Taylor can carry the show musically.
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seitan, how is watching that Apollo video, having my own personl gut-reaction to it and expressing disappointment or sadness... how is that bashing Keith?
Keith is a performer, he put himself out there, and we can all view and listen for ourselves and come to our own conclusions and varied as they are.
Not everyone is happy or impressed by it, in fact it seems quite the opposite. But how is talking about it 'bashing' Keith?
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I have read them, that's why I'm asking you. I thinki you confuse "objective criticism" with "bashing". They're not the same thing.
"Keith sucks" - that's bashing. It's baseless and mean.
"Judging by recent vdeos, Keith doesn't seem to be able to play well anymore" - that's an observation.
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StonesTod
people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence.
How about "fanboy"?
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
No, people who offer valid criticism are not bashers, no. - most of you dont seem to know the difference between criticism and bashing.
People who post stupid threads like "Keith never played any drums, so how dare he speak about drummers with his 50 year experience in the music" - that´s bashing. And so is "Keith cant play guitar anymore" - when he just did an album with Tom Waits and is working on a solo album of his own.
My favourite bashing post so far is when one person posted "Blues is Boring" at first and then decided to start bashing Keith for playing the blues" - How can you call it valid criticism if you find the whole genre of music boring in the first place. Hey, I could start critizing opera singers too for not playing rock n roll, but wouldnt that be just me bashing at them - I happen to hate opera. So who am I to say what´s good opera and what isnt.
It´s bashing when people say - "Keith cant rock, cause he played slow blues song" - that´s just bashing, it´s not valid criticism.
If what you call is valid "criticism" - then here´s some for you: You guys suck at making coffee, your coffee taste like piss, cause you didnt bring me any.
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I have read them, that's why I'm asking you. I thinki you confuse "objective criticism" with "bashing". They're not the same thing.
"Keith sucks" - that's bashing. It's baseless and mean.
"Judging by recent vdeos, Keith doesn't seem to be able to play well anymore" - that's an observation.
One should add one more category there: "bitching" - that's what I am told to do!(ask from with sssssssssssssoul more clear definition) ><
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Time will tell, let´s see...no point in giving statements like " They Wont Tour" - they might youknow, nothing stopped from keith getting up on stage to pay his respects to Hubert, so he might as well pay his respects to The Rolling Stones fans too, by doing a tour with the Stones, who knows...We will see and you´ll be the one to buy everyone around of drinks if they do.
I am not able to predict if they will do a tour. I think they all are truly aware of the fact that Richards is only a shadow of his former self. They ALL know that musically the Shine a Light movie is their absolute low point in their carreer. It will all come down to the fact whether Jagger would want to tour with the current state of Richards and the Stones. And that I actually doubt. I really doubt Jagger would want to do another tour with Richards and this incarnation of the Stones. Why would he? He doesn't need the money and there's no musical interest for him anymore.
The only way I see they can do it it to make it something truly extraordinairy, for example a short tour with just a few shows with Taylor and Wyman. In this way, Richards can pose with his guitar and do his 'Richards the Rock God' act, and Wood and Taylor can carry the show musically.
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
No, people who offer valid criticism are not bashers, no. - most of you dont seem to know the difference between criticism and bashing.
People who post stupid threads like "Keith never played any drums, so how dare he speak about drummers with his 50 year experience in the music" - that´s bashing. And so is "Keith cant play guitar anymore" - when he just did an album with Tom Waits and is working on a solo album of his own.
My favourite bashing post so far is when one person posted "Blues is Boring" at first and then decided to start bashing Keith for playing the blues" - How can you call it valid criticism if you find the whole genre of music boring in the first place. Hey, I could start critizing opera singers too for not playing rock n roll, but wouldnt that be just me bashing at them - I happen to hate opera. So who am I to say what´s good opera and what isnt.
It´s bashing when people say - "Keith cant rock, cause he played slow blues song" - that´s just bashing, it´s not valid criticism.
If what you call is valid "criticism" - then here´s some for you: You guys suck at making coffee, your coffee taste like piss, cause you didnt bring me any.
i don't wanna party with you.
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
No, people who offer valid criticism are not bashers, no. - most of you dont seem to know the difference between criticism and bashing.
People who post stupid threads like "Keith never played any drums, so how dare he speak about drummers with his 50 year experience in the music" - that´s bashing. And so is "Keith cant play guitar anymore" - when he just did an album with Tom Waits and is working on a solo album of his own.
My favourite bashing post so far is when one person posted "Blues is Boring" at first and then decided to start bashing Keith for playing the blues" - How can you call it valid criticism if you find the whole genre of music boring in the first place. Hey, I could start critizing opera singers too for not playing rock n roll, but wouldnt that be just me bashing at them - I happen to hate opera. So who am I to say what´s good opera and what isnt.
It´s bashing when people say - "Keith cant rock, cause he played slow blues song" - that´s just bashing, it´s not valid criticism.
If what you call is valid "criticism" - then here´s some for you: You guys suck at making coffee, your coffee taste like piss, cause you didnt bring me any.
i don't wanna party with you.
I love a good straw man argument though.
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
No, people who offer valid criticism are not bashers, no. - most of you dont seem to know the difference between criticism and bashing.
People who post stupid threads like "Keith never played any drums, so how dare he speak about drummers with his 50 year experience in the music" - that´s bashing. And so is "Keith cant play guitar anymore" - when he just did an album with Tom Waits and is working on a solo album of his own.
My favourite bashing post so far is when one person posted "Blues is Boring" at first and then decided to start bashing Keith for playing the blues" - How can you call it valid criticism if you find the whole genre of music boring in the first place. Hey, I could start critizing opera singers too for not playing rock n roll, but wouldnt that be just me bashing at them - I happen to hate opera. So who am I to say what´s good opera and what isnt.
It´s bashing when people say - "Keith cant rock, cause he played slow blues song" - that´s just bashing, it´s not valid criticism.
If what you call is valid "criticism" - then here´s some for you: You guys suck at making coffee, your coffee taste like piss, cause you didnt bring me any.
i don't wanna party with you.
I love a good straw man argument though.
but i think seitan drew the short straw
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jamesfdouglas
I have read them, that's why I'm asking you. I thinki you confuse "objective criticism" with "bashing". They're not the same thing.
"Keith sucks" - that's bashing. It's baseless and mean.
"Judging by recent vdeos, Keith doesn't seem to be able to play well anymore" - that's an observation.
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people who offer valid criticisms of keith are bashers, apparently. what we need to find is a proper word for those who praise him to the heavens despite his obvious incompetence. please submit your entries by EOD and we'll select a winning bid with a prize suitable for posing....
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seitan
people who offer valid criticism are not bashers, no - most of you just dont seem to know the difference between valid criticism and bashing.
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charlie62
Have you ever tried talking after singing a whole song, it's very difficult at any age, as for Keith let's wait and see.
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seitan
There is nothing valid in threads like "Keith never played any drums, so how dare he speak about drummers with his 50 year experience in the music" - It´s just silly. It´s bashing - there´s no valid point - with 50 year experience in music - keef can talk about any instrument he wants to, so can anyone with that kind of experience.
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seitan
"Keith cant play any guitar anymore" - when everybody knows that he just did an album with Tom Waits and played guitar on it, and he's working on a solo album of his own.