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One more thing about "Undercover of the Night". It is sometimes claimed to be a "dance track", a'la "Miss You" or "Emotional Rescue", or then "Harlem Shuffle" I was too young to enter the hot clubs at the time when it was a (minor) hit, but does anyone rememebers dancing to it in the disco? I haven't ever. Actually, I find its rhythm such hectic that I can't really think of function very well in dancing surroundings. The thing that th track is fulled with drum machines/synths and all that current hip production stuff, gives it a certain clothing, but to me it basically is more of straight forward rock number than any dance track.
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One more thing about "Undercover of the Night". It is sometimes claimed to be a "dance track", a'la "Miss You" or "Emotional Rescue", or then "Harlem Shuffle" I was too young to enter the hot clubs at the time when it was a (minor) hit, but does anyone rememebers dancing to it in the disco? I haven't ever. Actually, I find its rhythm such hectic that I can't really think of function very well in dancing surroundings. The thing that th track is fulled with drum machines/synths and all that current hip production stuff, gives it a certain clothing, but to me it basically is more of straight forward rock number than any dance track.
- Doxa
Funny you should ask....in about 1988 I heard it play as I walked into a night club...dance floor was packed. I was shocked as this was already the Rolling Stones way past their 'prime' vis-a-vis' dance clubs.
I realize it was 5 years after it had come out but it definitely 'rocked' the dance floor.
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One more thing about "Undercover of the Night". It is sometimes claimed to be a "dance track", a'la "Miss You" or "Emotional Rescue", or then "Harlem Shuffle" I was too young to enter the hot clubs at the time when it was a (minor) hit, but does anyone rememebers dancing to it in the disco? I haven't ever. Actually, I find its rhythm such hectic that I can't really think of function very well in dancing surroundings. The thing that th track is fulled with drum machines/synths and all that current hip production stuff, gives it a certain clothing, but to me it basically is more of straight forward rock number than any dance track.
- Doxa
Funny you should ask....in about 1988 I heard it play as I walked into a night club...dance floor was packed. I was shocked as this was already the Rolling Stones way past their 'prime' vis-a-vis' dance clubs.
I realize it was 5 years after it had come out but it definitely 'rocked' the dance floor.
and they kept the lights on?
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The version of Undercover of The night in Beacon Theatre (Shine A Light footage) is FAR BETTER THAN THE ORGINAL STUDIO VERSION - you can actually hear dirty guitars on this. The album version sucks - the whole album is the worst thing they ever did.
If "dirty guitar" is that a key player does not even know what the song is or what supposed to do in it, there you have it. That's very "punk" I guess...
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The version of Undercover of The night in Beacon Theatre (Shine A Light footage) is FAR BETTER THAN THE ORGINAL STUDIO VERSION - you can actually hear dirty guitars on this. The album version sucks - the whole album is the worst thing they ever did.
If "dirty guitar" is that a key player does not even know what the song is or what supposed to do in it, there you have it. That's very "punk" I guess...
- Doxa
At least there is a guitar..and not synth. I mean really..this is a rock n roll band, Undercover album dont rock at all - it´s dead as a doornail. Beacon theatre aint all that great, but at least it´s far more rockin that that radiofriendly whimpy crap of an album.
And at least there is beautiful tits on the Beacon video.
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The version of Undercover of The night in Beacon Theatre (Shine A Light footage) is FAR BETTER THAN THE ORGINAL STUDIO VERSION - you can actually hear dirty guitars on this. The album version sucks - the whole album is the worst thing they ever did.
Whoa! I'm not putting on Cool, Calm, Collected to compare...
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
After 20 odd posts I wonder in how many ways you can say 'I don't like UC'.
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Lisa never lets us down, does she?
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Lisa never lets us down, does she?
No, she doesn't. Damn you Stoneage. That comment of yours make me watch the clip..
So I also noticed that Keith is hopeless. There is no any sense in his playing. He is as out there as he is in "Undercover of The Night". Probably doesn't even know the tune. And it is mixed so loud upfront that one can't escape from hearing the constant bum notes, out of tune runs, etc. Why they let this disaster to be released? And you damned Scorcese, could't you have your doc done some decade or two ago when they still were able to deliver the goods
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
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Per DOXA and Treaclefingers - I was in a dance club when Undercover Of The Night came out and was delighted when it came booming out of this big sound system. The crowd paid no attention to it and no one got up to dance. I remembered how people did get up to dance to Miss You, and the good reaction Hey Negrita and Hot Stuff got in a club a couple years before that. (Billy's piano sounded incredible on a dance club sound system).
I loved hearing all the details in Undercover Of The Night on the big speakers. But I knew that the song didn't have an easy 1980s hook for the mass crowd. Which made me respect the Stones even more for taking a chance. It's a shame that one of their all time worst albums is associated with such a fine song. I would venture that Undercover of the Night is that last APlus Stones cut.
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
It's actually really funny to listen to this with headphones. Keith literally doesn't have a CLUE what song he is playing. He figures out the verse starts in G, so that's sufficient for some total obsolete noodling. But the rest of the chords? Is there a bridge? Is there a chorus? Who wrote this song? Is it ours? When did we do this? Is this two chords and an ass-hole? Who's the ass-hole? Hey, who'se the guy singing? Shall I hit him?
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
It's actually really funny to listen to this with headphones. Keith literally doesn't have a CLUE what song he is playing. He figures out the verse starts in G, so that's sufficient for some total obsolete noodling. But the rest of the chords? Is there a bridge? Is there a chorus? Who wrote this song? Is it ours? When did we do this? Is this two chords and an ass-hole? Who's the ass-hole? Hey, who'se the guy singing? Shall I hit him?
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It´s horrible mix - not only on this song - but in the whole movie, everytime camera turns into Mick, Ronnie or the audience - they turn the volume up - it´s a very bad mix, it´s clear that it´s either bad artistic decision on Martin´s part or the sound engineer is more used to mixing sound effects for fictional movies than doing a rock n roll concert.
That having said - it wasnt one of Keith´s best gigs, - and who cares - it´s one of their worst songs ever - so no matter how you play it or mix this - you cant really polish a turd, now can you ? No. The only consolation I guess, is that they did capture a better version of it here..then on that turd of an studio album. I mean, even Martin´s deaf of an engineer did a better job...
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
It's actually really funny to listen to this with headphones. Keith literally doesn't have a CLUE what song he is playing. He figures out the verse starts in G, so that's sufficient for some total obsolete noodling. But the rest of the chords? Is there a bridge? Is there a chorus? Who wrote this song? Is it ours? When did we do this? Is this two chords and an ass-hole? Who's the ass-hole? Hey, who'se the guy singing? Shall I hit him?
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It´s horrible mix - not only on this song - but in the whole movie, everytime camera turns into Mick, Ronnie or the audience - they turn the volume up - it´s a very bad mix, it´s clear that it´s either bad artistic decision on Martin´s part or the sound engineer is more used to mixing sound effects for fictional movies than doing a rock n roll concert.
That having said - it wasnt one of Keith´s best gigs, - and who cares - it´s one of their worst songs ever - so no matter how you play it or mix this - you cant really polish a turd, now can you ? No. The only consolation I guess, is that they did capture a better version of it here..then on that turd of an studio album. I mean, even Martin´s deaf of an engineer did a better job...
whoa whoa whoa little doggy...next you'll be saying that you don't even like the Undercover album! Oh right, that's what you've said in every post!
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
It's actually really funny to listen to this with headphones. Keith literally doesn't have a CLUE what song he is playing. He figures out the verse starts in G, so that's sufficient for some total obsolete noodling. But the rest of the chords? Is there a bridge? Is there a chorus? Who wrote this song? Is it ours? When did we do this? Is this two chords and an ass-hole? Who's the ass-hole? Hey, who'se the guy singing? Shall I hit him?
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It´s horrible mix - not only on this song - but in the whole movie, everytime camera turns into Mick, Ronnie or the audience - they turn the volume up - it´s a very bad mix, it´s clear that it´s either bad artistic decision on Martin´s part or the sound engineer is more used to mixing sound effects for fictional movies than doing a rock n roll concert.
That having said - it wasnt one of Keith´s best gigs, - and who cares - it´s one of their worst songs ever - so no matter how you play it or mix this - you cant really polish a turd, now can you ? No. The only consolation I guess, is that they did capture a better version of it here..then on that turd of an studio album. I mean, even Martin´s deaf of an engineer did a better job...
whoa whoa whoa little doggy...next you'll be saying that you don't even like the Undercover album! Oh right, that's what you've said in every post!
Dont worry - You´ll get used to it
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<"She Was Hot", like 71Tele said in his own words, belongs to their safe and sure notalgia area.>
Yeah, together with Star Star, Rocks Off, Rip This Joint, Respectable, All Down The Line and others, only with a great, great chorus that sounds nothing but contemporary - far from nostalgic.
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
It's actually really funny to listen to this with headphones. Keith literally doesn't have a CLUE what song he is playing. He figures out the verse starts in G, so that's sufficient for some total obsolete noodling. But the rest of the chords? Is there a bridge? Is there a chorus? Who wrote this song? Is it ours? When did we do this? Is this two chords and an ass-hole? Who's the ass-hole? Hey, who'se the guy singing? Shall I hit him?
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This video is better than the album version too...actually my grandmother singin is better than that album too, and she cant sing for shit. Undercover has no balls at all, production on that album is like having mickey mouse trapped in a matchbox..it´s just pathetic sounding album - if it aint got loud guitars, it aint rock n roll. You need loud guitars to kick ass. Its simple as that. And you can see tits on this video too, so this video is much better than that crappy album.
It's actually really funny to listen to this with headphones. Keith literally doesn't have a CLUE what song he is playing. He figures out the verse starts in G, so that's sufficient for some total obsolete noodling. But the rest of the chords? Is there a bridge? Is there a chorus? Who wrote this song? Is it ours? When did we do this? Is this two chords and an ass-hole? Who's the ass-hole? Hey, who'se the guy singing? Shall I hit him?
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He's playing the chorus, the single-stringed melody line. It sounds like it's overdubbed, but supposedly there aren't any overdubs, so... Who did it?