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thomashanck
Hi,
1976 the Stones were playing in Knebworth, Led Zeppelin too, maybe it is from that concert that Jimmy Page was quite a rage?
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mickschix
Treaclefingers, I've seen Plant solo too, a few times but not since the 80's. He was wonderful, stunning! I'd love to see him now solo or with Allison Krauss from Union Station. I think his voice is a bit weaker these days and he's had to adjust a bit...no more screams or high notes. He's lower his voice a few octaves. Just a fact of aging. And I agree with whoever it was that mentioned the first Zep album with " Good Times, Bad Times" and " I've Been Lovin You Too Long"...pure blues, so if you love the Stones and blues, why did you tune out for Zep?
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donvis
The original lyric "I'm making bets that you gonna get John Wayne before he dies" was probably considered in bad taste because Wayne died in 1974 if I recall correctly. That was why they changed it in the first place.
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If Led Zeppelin sold more tickets in the 1970s, it's no big suprise. They toured more. 11 Tours of NA between 1968 and 1977.
That seemed to be the proper conclusions, judging [en.wikipedia.org]
There isn't much difference between a Stoens tour and a Led Zep tour. The arena's are the same, the amount of shows seem the same for each tour. But, Led Zep simply toured much more. The Stones did 2 large and one smaller tour of NA, while Zep did 11.
So, Zep beat the Stones in both ticket sales and album sales in the 1970's.
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Naturalust
I am one who is damn surprised rock fans on this board have anything BAD to say about Led Zepplin. They were GREAT. Those four guys all had massive talent and together there was a special thing happening that blew millions of minds, mine included. How could a Stones fan not like that first record of theirs? Good Times Bad Times and the rest of those songs let everyone know that the ante for the Rock Kingdom just went up, way up. Every song was good, unlike the Stones who always had a few duds on the record, imho.
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OK, to be correct, Zep sold more COPIES than albums. The Stones have Zep beat in the amount of albums sold. Whatever it is, 26 albums.
"Copies" vs. "albums" equals a distiction without a difference. One must bear in mind that Zep released only eight full studio LPs in their active career of a single decade and most of their work still rings up big numbers in catalog sales. The Stones MAY have sold more but did so over the course of nearly fifty years and only Some Girls, Sticky Fingers, Exile and LIB come remotely close to Zep IV (as an example) in catalog sales.
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The Zep won in record and ticket sales, the Stones with hype and media coverage - which pissed Page off. Plant and Page even complained about this in one ROLLING STONE (?) interview. The Zep was not media sexy but that wasn't Jagger's fault, was it?
If I recall right the Zep even reschudeled some of their shows - or even tour - to give Stones tour more room to shine - or does my memory makes me tricks (again)?
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Seriously? And I thought Mick had a big ego. Damn. That's a bit of a snot toss coming from someone that was not only in the biggest band on the planet but refused to release singles - or so 'they' say.
Rolling Stone magazine made a conscious effort to bash Zep from the get-go. It helped to sell magazines because Zep fans would buy that useless rag just to get mad at it. Much like the MSNBC network here in the States has an audience consisting of about 1/4 to 1/3 conservatives.
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Yes..Rolling Stone magazine gave Zeppelin bad reviews in the 70s. I hope you are not stating as a fact that they did that to sell magazines. Probably they did it because they felt Zeppelin was over the top nonesense that only impressed teenages that liked over the top nonesense.
Again i find it annoying when the Zep crowd can't believe that some people just don't like their music.
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whitem8
Nother reason Page was the rage, was he is hung. Plaster caster made a mighty cast of Page's member and he was renowned among groupies of being hung like a horse.
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tkl7
If Led Zeppelin sold more tickets in the 1970s, it's no big suprise. They toured more. 11 Tours of NA between 1968 and 1977.
That seemed to be the proper conclusions, judging [en.wikipedia.org]
There isn't much difference between a Stoens tour and a Led Zep tour. The arena's are the same, the amount of shows seem the same for each tour. But, Led Zep simply toured much more. The Stones did 2 large and one smaller tour of NA, while Zep did 11.
So, Zep beat the Stones in both ticket sales and album sales in the 1970's.
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Goofy way to look at things about ticket sales. Who gives a crap who toured more. Thats like saying the Dead were bigger then the Stones in the 80s just because they toured more. Who cares, we all know the Stones were the bigger attraction. I think someone mentioned it here before..There was a group like Yes who actually sold the most concert tickets in the 70s because they were always on the road. Who cares.
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Nother reason Page was the rage, was he is hung. Plaster caster made a mighty cast of Page's member and he was renowned among groupies of being hung like a horse.
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One can like both the Stones & Zeppelin, you know.
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The Zep won in record and ticket sales, the Stones with hype and media coverage - which pissed Page off. Plant and Page even complained about this in one ROLLING STONE (?) interview. The Zep was not media sexy but that wasn't Jagger's fault, was it?
If I recall right the Zep even reschudeled some of their shows - or even tour - to give Stones tour more room to shine - or does my memory makes me tricks (again)?
- Doxa
Seriously? And I thought Mick had a big ego. Damn. That's a bit of a snot toss coming from someone that was not only in the biggest band on the planet but refused to release singles - or so 'they' say.
Rolling Stone magazine made a conscious effort to bash Zep from the get-go. It helped to sell magazines because Zep fans would buy that useless rag just to get mad at it. Much like the MSNBC network here in the States has an audience consisting of about 1/4 to 1/3 conservatives.
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Yes..Rolling Stone magazine gave Zeppelin bad reviews in the 70s. I hope you are not stating as a fact that they did that to sell magazines. Probably they did it because they felt Zeppelin was over the top nonesense that only impressed teenages that liked over the top nonesense.
Again i find it annoying when the Zep crowd can't believe that some people just don't like their music.
Just like how the same magazine gave A Bigger Bang, Goddess In The Doorway and Primitive Cool rave reviews?
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Thank you. I'm not jealous at all. That makes no sense. That sounds like I'm comparing his singing to mine!
I recognize they were a very popular band and sucessful too. That is different then perosnally liking Plant's voice. He always made my temples hurt. They can be good or even great, but I still never liked them adn I don't to this day.
Here is why:
1) Plant's singing makes my temples hurt
2) They have no rhythm. I'll take Charlie any day
You forgot their plagiarism...
And you forgot the drum solo's. I hate drum solo's, especially when they're longer than 10 seconds.
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The Zep won in record and ticket sales, the Stones with hype and media coverage - which pissed Page off. Plant and Page even complained about this in one ROLLING STONE (?) interview. The Zep was not media sexy but that wasn't Jagger's fault, was it?
If I recall right the Zep even reschudeled some of their shows - or even tour - to give Stones tour more room to shine - or does my memory makes me tricks (again)?
- Doxa
Seriously? And I thought Mick had a big ego. Damn. That's a bit of a snot toss coming from someone that was not only in the biggest band on the planet but refused to release singles - or so 'they' say.
Rolling Stone magazine made a conscious effort to bash Zep from the get-go. It helped to sell magazines because Zep fans would buy that useless rag just to get mad at it. Much like the MSNBC network here in the States has an audience consisting of about 1/4 to 1/3 conservatives.
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Yes..Rolling Stone magazine gave Zeppelin bad reviews in the 70s. I hope you are not stating as a fact that they did that to sell magazines. Probably they did it because they felt Zeppelin was over the top nonesense that only impressed teenages that liked over the top nonesense.
Again i find it annoying when the Zep crowd can't believe that some people just don't like their music.
Just like how the same magazine gave A Bigger Bang, Goddess In The Doorway and Primitive Cool rave reviews?
Whats your point. They still didn't like Led Zepplin.
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MILKYWAY
One can like both the Stones & Zeppelin, you know.
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seitan
Over-rated, and bit boring..that's what I think of Zep...Led Zeppelin is the best cover band in the world, I can give you that. They do know how to steal song ideas and steal all the credits. Yeah, Zeppelin is the best cover band in history.
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tkl7
If Led Zeppelin sold more tickets in the 1970s, it's no big suprise. They toured more. 11 Tours of NA between 1968 and 1977.
That seemed to be the proper conclusions, judging [en.wikipedia.org]
There isn't much difference between a Stoens tour and a Led Zep tour. The arena's are the same, the amount of shows seem the same for each tour. But, Led Zep simply toured much more. The Stones did 2 large and one smaller tour of NA, while Zep did 11.
So, Zep beat the Stones in both ticket sales and album sales in the 1970's.
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tkl7
If Led Zeppelin sold more tickets in the 1970s, it's no big suprise. They toured more. 11 Tours of NA between 1968 and 1977.
That seemed to be the proper conclusions, judging [en.wikipedia.org]
There isn't much difference between a Stoens tour and a Led Zep tour. The arena's are the same, the amount of shows seem the same for each tour. But, Led Zep simply toured much more. The Stones did 2 large and one smaller tour of NA, while Zep did 11.
So, Zep beat the Stones in both ticket sales and album sales in the 1970's.
Mathijs
Goofy way to look at things about ticket sales. Who gives a crap who toured more. Thats like saying the Dead were bigger then the Stones in the 80s just because they toured more. Who cares, we all know the Stones were the bigger attraction. I think someone mentioned it here before..There was a group like Yes who actually sold the most concert tickets in the 70s because they were always on the road. Who cares.
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bigfrankie
Put me down as someone who never liked Led Zep. I never went to a single Led Zep concert, although just about everone I knew did. They had no rhythm and Plant's singng made my temples hurt. Jimmy Page is a great talent, but that doesnt maek Zep any good.
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GumbootCloggeroo
John Bonham was a monster of a drummer. Really great. And to the non-Zeppelin fans, don't give me that "But he doesn't swing like Charlie" bullshit. So what.